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The Phoenix Suns managed to dump Hedo Turkoglu’s contract and steal away Marcin Gortat because the Orlando Magic figured they had to shake up their core for a shot to win now. 奥兰多需要冲击总冠军的机会,太阳要摆脱Hedo的合约,事情发生了 If we’re going to judge the Aaron Brooks trade as a failure because it did not lead to a Phoenix playoff berth, not only does the big December trade look like a Suns win but it looks like an Orlando loss as well after the Magic failed to reach the second round of the playoffs for the first time since 2007. 如果我们把AB交易案认为是失败的话,那奥兰多就更惨了 Richardson may have been an upgrade over Vince Carter because, well, he’s still breathing, but J-Rich in no way resembled the Suns’ star playoff performer from a year ago. 绿茶本来是被当作SG方面的升级的,但他在奥兰多打得不像是那个季後赛球星 J-Rich averaged 10.0 points on 33.3 percent shooting from the field and 32.0 percent shooting from distance this series and he got suspended for a crucial Game 4 that Orlando lost for fighting. In 55 regular season games with the Magic his numbers were also down: 13.9 points on 43.3 percent shooting after going for 19.3 on 47.0 percent shooting to begin the season with the Suns. 绿茶在系列赛平均只有10分,命中率是33.3 三分命中率32,而且在关键的G4被冰起来 在奥兰多的数据也是往下掉(上方红色地带) The Magic made the trade because they felt Richardson was a missing complementary scorer whose output would surpass Carter’s and while they may have been right in that regard by no means was he a difference maker for Orlando like he was last year as the Suns’ barometer of success. 魔术觉得绿茶应该是那个超越VC的SG,所以把它盘来 Long term losing J-Rich really doesn’t cost the Suns since they were unlikely to re-sign him to any kind of big money deal considering the youth movement that the franchise eventually will face. Although the Suns clearly missed him as a go-to guy, losing four months of him was certainly worth what they got back. 长期来说失去绿茶对太阳来说不算损失 ,因为太阳并不打算续约 ,高层不想在重建时还背 他的大约 ,而且失去他四个月的确有换回值得的东西 The Magic were also theoretically the only team willing to take on Hedo Turkoglu and the three years and $35 million remaining on his deal after this one (part of the money in the final season is non-guaranteed). The thought process for Orlando was that he was successful there before, and they felt they needed him initiating their offense out of the pick-and-roll to give them that added edge they possessed during their run to the Finals two years ago. 而且魔术应该是唯一愿意背Hedo的大约的 ,毕竟之前是如此成功 I didn’t think anybody would even take a sniff at Hedo unless he was the tax for a Nash trade or something like that, so merely eliminating him from Phoenix’s future seemed like a huge plus when he had to be one of the more untradeable players in the league. 我想没人想碰Hedo-除非他是交易Nash添头或怎样的 ,但那不太可能 ,所以就把他弄掉罗 However, on the day Orlando made this fateful move he was merely the third most untradeable player to be dealt that day with the Magic also consummating a Gilbert Arenas-Rashard Lewis deal. 那天魔术还弄来了9号疯子 Those trades meant the Magic were going all in. The deals for Arenas and Hedo combined with Dwight Howard’s superstar contract severely limit Orlando’s future flexibility to make moves to satisfy Howard before he can leave in 2012, and a lackluster regular season combined with the six-game loss to the Hawks prove the Magic lost this gamble, at least for the time being. 魔术全梭了,这些交易跟魔兽的合约严重限制了奥兰多的空间 ,魔兽在12年可以离开 但他们输了 As Nate Drexler writes at MagicBasketball.net, Turkoglu just wasn’t the same player he was two years ago. During the regular season he averaged 11.4-4.5-5.1 on 44.8 percent shooting, better numbers than he put up in Phoenix but not exactly the guy who averaged 19.5 and 16.8 his previous two years in Orlando. Nate Drexler在以上网页写到Hedo早已不是那个Hedo了,虽然在魔术的数字比凤凰城好看 He’s been horrendous in the playoffs, averaging 9.4 points on 29.4 percent shooting from the field and 23.3 percent shooting from distance. His playoff PER of 7.19 and true shooting percentage of 37.1 aren’t why the Magic swung this deal. 而且他在季後赛鸟爆了 Drexler describes Hedo as “indecisive,” “passive,” and “useless” during his current tenure in Orlando, words that could easily describe the beginning of his season as well in Phoenix. 优柔寡断、被动、无用--Nate Drexler给的评语 Hedo’s sharp decline truly is a mystery now that he has not only struggled in Toronto and Phoenix but also back in his comfort zone in Orlando. Even playing for Turkey in the FIBA World Championship he took more threes than twos and settled for long jump shots time after time after time, hardly resembling the 2009 playoff stalwart. Hedo的急速坠落是个谜 ,他不仅在多伦多跟凤凰城打的挣扎 ,连回到魔术都很烂 甚至在打FIBA时投三分的时候都比两分多 Perhaps he got fat from the big contract the Raptors gave him and has never been able to work his way back or perhaps a clutch playoffs following a career year the season before just exaggerated his worth in everybody’s eyes. 也许有肥约就摆烂吧 ,也许两年前的季後赛表现让大家眼睛都瞎了吧 In any case, the Suns’ future looks much brighter with Gortat’s long-term deal in place of Turkoglu’s albatross of a contract on their books the next few years, and the Suns should be thankful the Magic were willing to take a major risk that thus far has been a failure. 不管怎样 ,有锅贴的未来更加明亮 ,太阳应该感谢魔术帮背大约 With that the entirety of the special 2009-10 Suns roster has now been eliminated from postseason contention as we see all those parts that worked so well together have not been the same apart. 不重要的一段 Read more: http://tinyurl.com/3e79xer 结果没怎麽提到绿茶= = 都在鞭Hedo.. --



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◆ From: 210.203.116.91 ※ 编辑: abcd810112 来自: 210.203.116.91 (04/30 19:35)
1F:推 louislu22 :结论这笔交易是太阳抢劫成功瞜 04/30 19:39
2F:→ louislu22 :可是我觉得是大范根本一点战术都没有,一堆好球员 04/30 19:40
3F:→ louislu22 :可是完全没打出该有的水准 04/30 19:40
4F:推 thegod13 :之所以说抢劫.....太阳:一个球星失常 魔术:两个 04/30 19:48
5F:推 MOJS :继续翻 继续翻! 04/30 20:14
6F:推 Sakber :我觉得是大范问题就是=.= 04/30 20:20
7F:推 devccup :是觉得不到抢劫啦 各取所需~ 04/30 20:20
8F:→ devccup :只是绿茶用得不好 火枪表现也不如预期 04/30 20:21
9F:推 JHNJHNJHN :阿阿 这波外电浪好高阿 快被淹没了 但被淹得很爽XD 04/30 20:31
10F:推 victor0218 :FIBA吧.. 04/30 20:59
11F:推 allentony64 :问一下 总版说的水枪是谁阿?? 04/30 21:19
12F:推 truegodchild:就是火枪 04/30 21:26
13F:推 allentony64 :那再问一下 火枪兵这绰号哪来的阿? ? 04/30 21:32
14F:推 shadowydark :来自世纪帝国里土耳其的兵种,Hedo是土耳其人 04/30 21:34
15F:推 allentony64 :喔原来 谢谢两位帮我解惑喔XDDDD 04/30 21:39
16F:→ papagenoyi :我仍然认为绿茶的离开对太阳很伤... 04/30 22:15
17F:→ DASHOCK :绿茶ㄉㄉ要回来吗 04/30 22:25
18F:推 philluke :楼上= = 注音文 04/30 23:29
19F:→ bll135 :完了完了正妹版主又要震怒了......... 04/30 23:33
20F:推 louislu22 :有绿茶的离开 达利才有正规赛後段先发的机会 04/30 23:53
21F:→ louislu22 :我真的觉得这笔交易成功的绝对是太阳而不是魔术 04/30 23:53
22F:推 philluke :想成绿茶换锅贴... 小赚吧 04/30 23:55
23F:→ philluke :再加上清掉Hedo大约的话 就更赚一点 单论这笔交易 04/30 23:56
24F:→ philluke :但想到会有这笔交易是因为之前... 就会觉得OOXX 04/30 23:56
25F:推 shadowydark :推abcd大外电乱舞 05/01 00:01
26F:推 cmid05 :觉得是他们教练的问题......... 05/01 00:53
27F:→ cmid05 :不然魔术阵容其实很强... 拿冠军我都不觉得意外 05/01 00:54
28F:→ BrentRoy :还OK阿 反正基本上清薪资很成功 如果绿茶婶没换走 05/01 00:55
29F:→ BrentRoy :续约的问题也是一个头两个大了 05/01 00:56
30F:→ abcd810112 :不过今年VC又走 我们就没有投切兼备的SG了耶.. 05/01 00:58
31F:推 bll135 :跟Nash配合的体系可能不太需要会切的 05/01 00:58
32F:→ bll135 :老喊着要摇摆人,来了又把人家当定点射手用 = = 05/01 00:59
33F:→ bll135 :该死的无限回圈...... 05/01 00:59
34F:→ abcd810112 :摇摆人到这里都会变空切射手XD 05/01 01:00
35F:推 bll135 :不是会变 是被迫适应 适应好就像後期绿茶 适应不好就 05/01 01:06
36F:→ bll135 :前期绿茶OR VC 被鞭得要死 05/01 01:06
37F:→ bll135 :现在最适合太阳的还是Bell那种的SG吧 我个人觉得.... 05/01 01:07
38F:→ bll135 :而且价钱也不会太扯 05/01 01:07
39F:→ abcd810112 :话说当初JJ怎麽可以玩这麽开心啊 後来的都没这麽好用 05/01 01:09
40F:推 bll135 :打法有点不同吧 记得是不一样的打法 05/01 01:11
41F:推 Bnno3 :我反而觉得现在的太阳要会切入的SG 在强的进攻球队 05/01 01:56
42F:→ Bnno3 :都会有当机的时候 去年我们有两个方法解决 一个就是 05/01 01:57
43F:→ Bnno3 :阿骂上去硬吃 第二个就是放替补上来砍分 05/01 01:59
44F:推 bll135 :VC很会切阿 刚来的绿茶也会切阿......要会切的有是有 05/01 02:13
45F:→ bll135 :但与其把会切的当射手用,不如就真的只找个射手还省 05/01 02:13
46F:→ bll135 :点钱 05/01 02:14
47F:推 shadowydark :太阳不需要在这位置上找明星来 05/01 02:18
48F:推 Bnno3 :如果阿骂在的确只要插个射手就不错了 问题是锅贴跟 05/01 03:33
49F:→ Bnno3 :阿骂还是有差距 还有今年Nash越来越多第四节手软 05/01 03:35
50F:→ Bnno3 :一方面是他时间控球比去年长 还有年纪绝对是有差的 05/01 03:37
51F:推 bll135 :我们的想法其实差不多,现行主要进攻就是靠Nash带起 05/01 03:47
52F:→ bll135 :的PnR到死,但配合的人不是阿骂威力就比以前小了一点 05/01 03:48
53F:→ bll135 :在这情况下我可以同意你认为需要增加个会切的摇摆人 05/01 03:48
54F:→ bll135 :的动机,不过起码现况是在Nash持球时间相当长,而且 05/01 03:49
55F:→ bll135 :当他持球後主要考虑的是PnR或找空档球员或自己出手, 05/01 03:50
56F:→ bll135 :而非把球交给哪个他信任的球员单打下,摇摆人只能一 05/01 03:50
57F:→ bll135 :直被当定点射手用。当然如果来了个会切的教练弄点战 05/01 03:51
58F:→ bll135 :术给他是好的,但我想机率还是不很高。Amare在时还可 05/01 03:51
59F:→ bll135 :以要点球权面框单打或中距离,阿骂走後Nash似乎更不 05/01 03:52
60F:→ bll135 :放心把球交出去的感觉。 05/01 03:52
61F:→ bll135 :今年NG挡拆如果被守住就只好重打了,去年NS却很难被 05/01 03:54
62F:→ bll135 :守住。另外,NG就算打得顺,进攻节奏还是比以往慢得 05/01 03:54
63F:→ bll135 :多了。 05/01 03:55
64F:推 Bnno3 :老实说今年我没什麽看球的动力 太阳打球越来越制式 05/01 04:13
65F:推 kaimar :童装:我可以切阿q口q 要扣篮也行 但别叫我投篮XD 05/01 09:17
66F:推 skylion :还是不认为交易来小AB是错的 小AB平均表现应该还是比 05/01 12:35
67F:→ skylion :较好 05/01 12:35
68F:推 Eijidate :不过为什麽其他队就可以搞到G蛙或黑雾~ 太阳就不行? 05/01 13:43
69F:→ Eijidate :除了锅贴以外,禁区要再多一塔,就稳了 05/01 13:44
70F:→ abcd810112 :因为没菜可以配啊 orz 05/01 13:54
71F:推 Eijidate :次级联盟不能找些身材够壮够高但欠缺技术的进来练吗? 05/01 13:58
72F:→ Eijidate :美国篮球人才这麽多,身高200以上的应该一堆吧 05/01 13:58
73F:→ abcd810112 :要两百以上的很容易 但是要找有脑的就不容易了... 05/01 14:09
74F:推 truegodchild:肉汁有脑 05/01 14:49
75F:→ truegodchild:缺禁区的又不只太阳.... 05/01 14:49
76F:→ truegodchild:要是那麽简单就部会每年选秀一堆球队赌中锋 05/01 14:50
77F:→ truegodchild:成功的没几个 05/01 14:50
78F:→ truegodchild:G蛙是态度问题 05/01 14:52
79F:推 truegodchild:身材够高够壮又有脑 但是没技术 就是我们肉汁 05/01 14:54
80F:推 truegodchild:而且还有一点 稍微打好一点的内线那价码可是... 05/01 15:02
81F:→ truegodchild:之前版上讨论过的快艇Jordan 去年骑士的Hickson等 05/01 15:03
82F:推 truegodchild:不然便宜一点的可能就是身高问题... 05/01 15:05
83F:→ truegodchild:小牛...黑雾和拳王可都有伤病困扰阿 05/01 15:08
84F:→ abcd810112 :说来说去还是只剩选秀这条路了orz 05/01 15:11
85F:→ truegodchild:个人觉得想靠交易或FA基本上都要负担起伤病或是 05/01 15:14
86F:→ truegodchild:签大约的风险 05/01 15:14
87F:→ truegodchild:如果是找内线的话 05/01 15:15
88F:推 erichoco :翻FIFA害我以为是足球== 05/02 11:46
打错了 抱歉XD ※ 编辑: abcd810112 来自: 210.203.116.91 (05/02 11:54) ※ 编辑: abcd810112 来自: 210.203.116.91 (05/02 11:55)







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