作者SULICon (91mph的变速球....)
看板PHX-Suns
标题[闲聊] <The Suns is a Phoenix>
时间Fri Nov 13 22:58:49 2009
-Bill Bridge-
<The Suns is a Phoenix>
因为原文有点长,我大致简短翻一下.翻错请见谅.<(_ _)>
Most pundits have been surprised by the Sun’s success this year. These are the
same pundits that picked the Lakers to finish 8th or out of the playoffs in
07/08. Of course the Lakers made it to the NBA finals. I’ve watched most of
the Suns games this year and their success is not a shock to me. This is the
best Suns team since Nash has been in Phoenix.
一堆权威人士惊讶今年太阳的表现.这批人在07/08球季也说湖人应该是吊车尾进季後赛.
不过湖人那年打进总冠军赛了.今年太阳的表现对我(作者)来说不意外.这支太阳队是自
从Nash在之後的最佳队型.
(一不小心就翻太多了.....)
Last year, they had the wrong or new personnel playing in the wrong system for
the wrong coach. Yet, they barely missed the playoffs. This year the wrong
personnel (Shaq) is gone, the new are now familiar, and the right coach who is
Mike D’Antoni 2 , except this one also coaches defense.
去年不对的人不对的系统所以没了季後赛.Shaq走了,鸟教练掰掰,来了Mike D'Antoni 2世
.不过现在这位也有在教防守.
The most successful Suns team is the 06/07 team that made it to the WCSF and
lost to the Spurs. The team won 61 games in the regular season and started
Nash, Bell, Diaw, Marion, and Stoudemire. The bench consisted of Kurt Thomas
and Barbosa. No other player got any meaningful minutes.
最成功的太阳队是06/07球季,他们打进了西区准决赛,最後输给了马刺.季赛拿下61胜,先
发阵容为Nash,Bell,Diaw,Marion和Stoudemire.板凳有Kurt Thomas和Barbosa.其他请自
动忽略.
This team is an upgrade at every position except perhaps PF. New Amare is
better (especially on defense) than the old Amare. Hill looks like the one that
played in Detroit and is significant upgrade to Diaw. Nash is still Nash –
except this one seems to have a healthier back. Jason Richardson is playing
like Andrew Toney. Marion is better than Fry. But Fry might be a better fit.
现在得太阳除了大前锋外,其他的位置都升级了.新的Amare(在防守面)比旧的Amare好.
Hill跟在Detroit打球没两样,当然他比Diaw要好.Nash还是那个Nash,不过背部比较好点.
J-Rich就像是Anrew Toney.不过Marion是比Frye优秀,但是Frye可能会比较适合喔.
It is the bench that is the most drastic difference. Whereas D’Antoni didn’t
trust his bench and played 7 deep the entire season. Gentry’s bench is deep
and productive. Barbosa might now be the 7th or 8th man behind Amundson and
Dudley (one of my new “Favourite Players not on the Lakers”). Dragic is the
best Slovenian PG in the NBA and Robin Lopez has yet to play who brings their
only size off the bench. Amundson is like David Lee who plays Defense. Barbosa
might have lost something but is still very dangerous.
板凳差最多,D'Antoni喜欢演白雪公主跟七个小矮人.Gentry的可用之兵就多太多了.
Barbosa可能都要退到Amundson和Dudley之後的第七人或是第八人来使用.Dragic则是
斯洛维尼亚最佳後卫,Robin Lopez的体型就摆在那.Amundson有着David Lee般的防守.
Barbosa可能会少了点什麽,可是他还是个危险家伙.
On offense this team has versatility missing on previous teams. Not a single
player on the old team had a reliable post game. (Diaw was the closest; but
whereas he had the skills, he lacked the will). That team was exclusively based
on high screen-roll. Stoudemire picks for Nash, rolls to the hoop or pops. Nash
passes to Stoudemire, or dribbles closer either for his own shot or a kick out
to a shooter. Deadly efficient at the pace they played but still predictable;
and in a playoff series, ultimately stoppable.
进攻可就多元了.旧的太阳没一个可以打低位的(Diaw有点像啦,可是他打低位就会让其他
优势不见).以前的太阳需要一直在高位挡拆.Nash+Stoudemire进进出出,不然就Nash带深
一点然後投球或是传给射手.夭寿般的效率,可是是很好猜的,这种打法在季後赛就没招了
Now, this team runs a variant of the triangle/Princeton sets and posts up
Richardson (and less frequently Hill) on the left block. They are good enough
from the post to draw doubles and are very good at kicking it out for open 3’s.
现在到有一点Triangle/Princeton的味道,J-Rich会在左边要位单打(偶而是Hill).他们
都可以吸引到包夹,然後马上传给三分线外空档的人.
There is some truth to the statement that some of the Sun’s success is due to
the unfamiliarity of most teams to playing against a team with such pace. But
of course, if pace alone were the determining factor, the Warriors would also
be successful.
不过也跟大部分的球队不习惯太阳这种打法有关,可是事情有那麽简单的话,阿勇士咧?
They shoot the 3 at 48%. Unheard of. Such efficiency is a product of good
shooters getting open looks from their favourite spots in rhythm. Disrupt any
of these factors and the percentage drops. These open looks in rhythm come in 3
primary ways.
48%三分球命中率.这种数据大概是好射手+大空档+最爱的位置才会出现.拿掉其中一项就
会让命中率下降.他们的空档主要来自三个部份.
1. Nash penetration. Usually to his left. Swing out with his left hand to the
right corner 3. Or a further swing from the corner to the key and wing for open
3’s
1. Nash超会渗透.通常他都切左边,然後用左手传到右边三分球的角落,不然就从角落那边
切然後找到空档的人.
2. Kick out from left block by Richardson or Hill after a double. Usually to
the right wing to Frye/other shooter for open 3
2. J-Rich或Hill在左边被包夹後的分球.通常都会传给右翼的Frye或其他人来投三分.
3. PUJIT – no need to say more
3. PUJIT 没啥好讲的(.........这我刚好不知道是啥)
Unlike most right handed players, Nash tends to penetrate going left. This is
function of two factors,
为什麽Nash跟一般的右撇不一样咧~有两点:
- Amare tends to pick to Nash’s left – this naturally leads to his rolling
from the right side or popping for a shot on the right and Amare is a strong
right-handed player.
- Amare是挡在Nash的左边 - 所以他档完会往右跑不然就是在那边投中距离,Amare是个
超爱用右手的球员
- Nash has a deadly jumpshot off the dribble to the right. He is not nearly as
comfortable shooting over his right shoulder.
- Nash 运到右边後的三分球命中率有点囧.他现在的肩膀投三分不像以前那麽轻松了.
(以下谈的是怎麽对付太阳我就不翻了...)
So force Nash to the right to discourage penetration and live with the jump
shots.
Do not double the post player. Force Richardson and Hill to make the turnaround
J. They can make this shot but perhaps not as well against Kobe and Artest. A
contested turn around from the block has a much lower EFG% than an open 3 (76%
for the Suns – crazy!), and much easier to rebound.
The Lakers can minimize the PUJIT by being disciplined on offense; limiting
turnovers and trying to have the Suns begin their break by taking the ball out
of bounds each and every possession.
The Suns also are very good at swarming the post causing turnovers. Bynum and
Kobe will have to be mindful of this when they get the ball. As a side note, in
Jared Dudley the Suns have possibly the best or second best post defender at
the guard position. Kobe will have to work harder to establish position and get
the ball. Dudley is extremely good at fronting his player and denying the pass.
The huge advantage Kobe has with other teams who have guards that treat the
paint like alien territory is not there against Phoenix.
The Nash/Amare screen roll is probably the most devastating single play in the
NBA. You have to try to get Amare to pick to Nash’s right than left. Much like
Denver tried to disrupt the Kobe/Gasol screen roll by severely shading to Kobe’
s right forcing Gasol to pick to Kobe’s left, the Lakers have to do the
opposite. Shade Nash severely to the left to force Amare to pick to Nash’s
right. This impedes Nash’s penetration, and forces Amare to begin rolling or
shoot from a less comfortable position of the left side of the lane. If Frye is
screening, I’d go under the screen so that Frye’s man can stay with him. Frye
doesn’t roll and will drift to the three point line looking for the drop off
from Nash. Of course you leave an open 3 to Nash – but you always give up
something to take away something.
What a terrific game so early in the season. This game will test the Laker’s
weaknesses this year. They will have to control the defensive boards (the
Lakers are the worst in the league), not turn the ball over, make the proper
rotations to cover the weak side three point shooter, and run a disciplined
offense to control the tempo. All doable but challenging.
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1F:推 cielnoir :推翻译! 11/13 23:03
2F:推 max02105 :推推 11/13 23:03
3F:推 andy1203 :推推~感谢~ 11/13 23:10
※ 编辑: SULICon 来自: 114.45.177.44 (11/13 23:14)
4F:→ guitarist326:我蛮想看下面那段耶@@ 11/13 23:15
5F:推 ASDF0714 :推推 11/13 23:15
6F:→ guitarist326:有没有神人想翻翻看~ 11/13 23:15
7F:→ guitarist326:看的懂下半段的第一段 不要包夹在低位单打的 11/13 23:16
8F:推 Kidiot :推推! 11/13 23:17
9F:推 BrentRoy :Frye可能比Marion适合...呃 11/13 23:23
10F:推 BrentRoy :PUJIT应该是 pull-up jumper in transition 11/13 23:29
11F:推 thegod13 :D'Antoni喜欢演白雪公主跟七个小矮人XDDD 11/13 23:50
12F:推 airily2 :推!!! 11/13 23:50
13F:→ thegod13 :Frye比较适合是因为三分炮管比较大吗 11/13 23:51
14F:→ thegod13 :我可以问一下今天KOBE有用天钩吗 11/13 23:52
15F:推 BrentRoy :阿盲跟大卫李应该是指阿盲冲抢篮板的能力 讲说有一样 11/13 23:58
16F:→ BrentRoy :的防守...这个湖人作家在偷酸吗= = 11/13 23:59
17F:→ BrentRoy :这篇防太阳的角度比较是用湖人阵容去讲的 11/14 00:00
18F:→ BrentRoy :大概是说阻止Nash渗透到禁区逛大街找人传的能力 11/14 00:01
19F:→ BrentRoy :还有阻止Nash的射篮手感 利用湖人阵容里的阿泰跟Kobe 11/14 00:02
20F:→ BrentRoy :去一对一守Hill跟绿茶 不要采用包夹 11/14 00:02
21F:→ BrentRoy :还有Nash攻守转换的急停跳投跟传导能力太出色 面对 11/14 00:03
22F:→ BrentRoy :太阳时尽量减少失误防止反快攻 11/14 00:04
23F:→ BrentRoy :中间提到达利是太阳数一数二好且擅长断球的球员 11/14 00:05
24F:推 BrentRoy :最後提到Nash阿骂的档拆 可以看一下第六页说阿骂爱用 11/14 00:08
25F:→ BrentRoy :右手那边 就是尽量让阿骂作挡拆的时候迫使他不能挡左 11/14 00:09
26F:→ BrentRoy :往右切 Frye-Nash的档拆的话 这个作家是建议与其跟 11/14 00:11
27F:→ BrentRoy :着Nash一起跑 不如守Frye那个专心跟Frye紧紧就好 11/14 00:11
28F:→ BrentRoy :虽然这种方式会让Nash有空挡进攻 但是Frye的三分线 11/14 00:13
29F:→ BrentRoy :本季威胁很大(另一方面是轻视Nash的年龄跟持久力) 11/14 00:13
30F:→ BrentRoy :大概是这样 看有没有专业版友作更详细解说的@@ 11/14 00:14
31F:推 ediotediot :罗伊大这样翻还不叫专业的话没人敢翻了... 11/14 00:45
32F:推 calf3300126 :英文强真好ˊˋ 11/14 00:49
33F:推 darker :Frye-Nash挡拆的部分,原作者的观点倾向於Frye挡拆後 11/14 01:44
34F:→ darker :不太会内切,而是到三分线外等NASH传球。如果不换防 11/14 01:44
35F:→ darker :因为原本守Frye会是大个子,跟到外围可以避免Frye变 11/14 01:46
36F:→ darker :成高炮塔,会让Frye出手不舒服。虽然NASH同时也可能 11/14 01:46
37F:→ darker :会有三分空挡,但两者择一取其轻。 11/14 01:48
38F:→ SULICon :<(_ _)> 11/14 03:21
39F:推 bll135 :大家英文都好好..... 11/14 07:19
40F:推 lenta :看到frye比较适合....只觉得是马後炮 11/14 07:36
41F:推 thegod13 :推ROY大... 11/14 09:27
42F:推 akiyo791 :推原PO 也推ROY大 11/14 10:25
43F:推 mea7211 :推翻译 也推补充 11/14 10:50
44F:推 YamagiN :Marion跟Frye只是作者硬把两组先发比较 意义不大 11/14 10:57
45F:→ YamagiN :那时PF是Diaw Marion顶多只是SF PF轮着打 Frye是C耶 11/14 10:58
46F:→ olalaolala :推 11/14 16:28
47F:推 suana :推一下 11/19 10:05
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