付费文章.. 分享过来并翻译给板友看, 喜欢的可以去订阅 Caitlin Cooper 最专业的女性溜马分析师 - 喜欢她的文章和分析的话请订阅她支持她 原文 : https://tinyurl.com/478kh39z 请支持溜马写手 On Jay Huff playing (center)field for the Pacers And the potentially bigger question of who will play the part of Andrew Nembhard for Andrew Nembhard By: Caitlin Cooper | @C2_Cooper Jay Huff 在溜马打中锋位置的可能性 还有一个更大的问题是： 谁能在 Andrew Nembhard 身边，扮演另一个 Andrew Nembhard 的角色？ 作者：Caitlin Cooper | @C2_Cooper On December 29, just three days after the Pacers had played the Oklahoma City Thunder at Gainbridge Fieldhouse but long before the two teams would meet in the NBA Finals, the Memphis Grizzlies were playing the Thunder at Paycom Center. With 5:13 to play in the third quarter, Oklahoma City entered the ball to Isaiah Hartenstein at the elbow area extended, triggering an interesting reaction from reserve center Jay Huff, who the Pacers recently acquired from the Grizzlies in exchange for one second-round pick and one second-round pick swap. As soon as Hartenstein touched the ball above the break, Memphis' back-up big man, well, backed up. 12月29日，就在溜马於主场与雷霆交手三天後（距离两队在总冠军赛碰头还有好一段时间 ），灰熊在 Paycom 中心对上雷霆。第三节还剩 5 分 13 秒时，雷霆将球传给在罚球线 延伸区的 Isaiah Hartenstein，这引发了溜马刚从灰熊换来的替补中锋 Jay Huff 的有 趣反应。当 Hartenstein 接到球时，Huff 立刻大幅後退，形成明显的退防区。 https://i.imgur.com/Pl4dq9r.gif That wasn't a one-off, either. A few months later, Huff exhibited the exact same conditioned response, dropping wayyyy back into a one-man zone as soon as Hartenstein started steering the offense on the perimeter. 这并不是偶然。几个月後，当 Hartenstein 再次从外围主导进攻时，Huff 又做出一模一 样的反应——大幅退防、几乎进入一人区域联防模式。 https://i.imgur.com/vUt3Fw5.gif That's a significant departure not only from how the Pacers defended the Thunder in the Finals, but also from how the Pacers defend in general. Of course, the coverage against the Thunder took on several different forms over the full-breadth of that seven-game series. 这种方式不只是与溜马在总冠军赛对雷霆时的防守策略大相迳庭，也与他们平时的防守体 系截然不同。当然，在那场七战系列赛中，溜马对雷霆的防守方式其实变化多端。 In the beginning, Indiana started out next-ing (i.e. jump-switching onto the ball from the next nearest gap with the on-ball defender peel switching off to the perimeter) anytime Shai Gilgeous-Alexander was the pick-and-roll ball-handler. When Oklahoma City Thunder countered with strategic cuts and by re-arranging who was standing where (i.e. deliberating placing a big in the next nearest gap to force the defensive big for Indiana to cover more ground or jump-switch onto the ball), the Pacers dialed up the pressure, with Andrew Nembhard tracking the league MVP the full length of the floor as the bigs for Indiana also stayed up, meeting the ball at the logo and keeping their heels outside the paint against Hartenstein as a playmaker. 一开始，只要 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 操作挡拆，溜马就采取「Next」防守策略（也 就是从最近的防守空隙跳换防守人，原本的防守者则迅速转守外围）。当雷霆用战术切入 与站位调整（像是故意让内线站在「Next」的位置，迫使溜马的大个子拉出来换防）来反 制时，溜马选择加压，让 Andrew Nembhard 全场黏守这位 MVP，而内线球员则前顶到中 场附近，脚跟踩在禁区外，高位阻挡 Hartenstein 的组织。 https://i.imgur.com/JfcsvBh.mp4 Eventually, the answer for the Thunder was to start Hartenstein, elongating the length of the court with bone-crushing screens at the logo in Game 5, as the Thunder recorded the highest average distance from the hoop on picks in any game between any two teams this past season. After going overboard with overs and struggling to maintain the edge of the defense against those north-south attacks with the bigs defending up at the level that far from the basket, the Pacers made the necessary change to pull back on the full-court pressure in exchange for ratcheting up the frequency of double teams against Shai-Gilgeous Alexander in the half-court, which ultimately led to Indiana forcing a Game 7 (but let's not talk about Game 7, okay?). 最终，雷霆的对策是在第五战让 Hartenstein 先发，利用他在中场附近设置强力掩护， 把进攻空间拉长。这场比赛雷霆创下本季所有球队中「挡拆出手平均距离篮框最远」的纪 录。面对雷霆这种从上到下、由内线强攻的打法，溜马一开始过度采用上掩护（over）方 式後效果不佳，於是他们做出调整——撤回全场压迫，改用半场双人包夹对付 Shai，这 策略成功把比赛拖进第七战（但我们就别提第七战了，好吗？）。 Quietly though, beyond just the element of surprise and the need to counter for the runway that was being created by Hartenstein's screen craft, the other benefit of that strategic adjustment was preserving Nembhard. 不过悄悄地，这个战术调整除了针对 Hartenstein 掩护制造的「跑道」进行反制，另一 个重要目的，是为了保护 Nembhard。 Remember, Haliburton was gimpy in Game 5 and mostly just ended up being used as a decoy. As a result, a big chunk of the primary initiation tilted to Nembhard, who was already responsible for playing the part of itchy sweater against the league MVP. By the end of the game, he committed three turnovers in the final frame and looked exhausted, as he struggled to complete even a simple slot-to-slot pitch. 别忘了，第五战的 Haliburton 状况不佳，几乎只能当诱饵使用。因此，大部分的进攻发 起责任都落到 Nembhard 身上，而他同时还得扮演「紧身毛衣」般黏死 MVP 的角色。到 了比赛尾声，他在第四节发生三次失误，体力明显耗尽，甚至连简单的侧翼转传都传不准 。 https://i.imgur.com/PAVOO0i.mp4 For that reason, the bigger question with regard to the addition of Jay Huff isn't necessarily whether the Pacers can replicate what they do offensively with him at center, but rather whether he can play centerfield at the other end of the floor (at least against certain match-ups) and what the ramifications of such a change would be on the rest of the roster and, particularly, Andrew Nembhard. 因此，Jay Huff 的加入，真正的问题不是溜马是否能用他来复制进攻端的体系，而是在 防守端——尤其是特定对位下——他是否能扮演中路扫荡的角色，以及这样的改变会如何 影响整个阵容，尤其是 Nembhard。 On the surface, brazenly ignoring the opposing five-man in order to drop into a one-man zone, as the Warriors also did against old friend Domantas Sabonis in their 2023 first-round playoff series against the Kings, may seem like a conservative scheme, but that type of coverage actually requires a tremendous amount of energy and effort from the other four remaining players on the perimeter to apply maximum ball and lane pressure with fluid screen navigation and rigorous top-locking in order to sustain the disruption. 表面上，看似大胆无视对方中锋、退守成为一人区域联防的方式（就像 2023 年季後赛第 一轮勇士面对老朋友 Domantas Sabonis 时所做的），可能让人以为这是一种保守的防守 策略。但事实上，这种布阵会让场上其他四位外围防守球员付出极大体能与精神代价—— 他们必须持续施压、灵活穿越掩护、并严密地从顶部封锁进攻线，才能维持这样的干扰效 果。 To be fair, the fact that those players also know that a big will always be dropped to the rim can serve to embolden them in being ultra-aggressive, but ultra-aggressiveness is certainly necessary. Otherwise, with the big who is being ignored free to make passes and set up screening angles, the potential is there for the offense to play downhill and in a constant state of rhythm. 公平来说，这样的防守也会让其他球员更有胆量积极防守，因为他们知道禁区永远有大个 子在後方补位。但这种「极度积极」是必要条件，否则一旦对手的中锋被放空、可以自由 传球和设置掩护角度，那麽进攻方就能从容往前推进、维持节奏不断。 Just look at how readily available this pocket pass is from Jalen Williams when Luke Kennard gets clipped by the pick. 举例来说，当 Luke Kennard 被掩护挡住时，Jalen Williams 的这记 pocket pass（短 传）就轻易传出，形成直接威胁。 https://i.imgur.com/kM3uiQw.mp4 Notably, Huff steps back into the paint when Hartenstein has the ball but then steps forward to guard the hand-off and/or screening action. 值得注意的是，Huff 在 Hartenstein 持球时会先退进禁区，但当对方准备进行交球或掩 护时，他又会往前补位防守。 Again, this couldn't be more different from how the Pacers operated during the Finals. After all, a unique defensive wrinkle that Indiana rolled out during that series was tagging with the low-man against the pick-and-pop, committing two players to the ball against one of OKC's stars, so that Nembhard or Nesmith could stay home one-pass away against OKC's other star. 再次强调，这种做法跟溜马在总冠军赛的防守策略完全不同。当时溜马针对雷霆的 pick-and-pop（挡拆後外弹）战术，设计了一套特殊防守：让弱边底角的「低位帮手」出 来 tag（干扰）掩护者，等於用两名球员去包夹 OKC 的主攻手，这样 Nembhard 或 Nesmith 就可以留守在外围、封锁雷霆另一名明星球员的第一传路线。 https://i.imgur.com/Js8WGFT.mp4 For emphasis, that's Haliburton sprinting to meet Hartenstein at the point of the pop. By comparison, the Grizzlies went out of their way, by staying out of the way, for possessions to end with Hartenstein shooting or creating for himself off the dribble. And that didn't only apply to Huff. 要特别强调的是，当时是 Haliburton 奋力冲上去顶住 Hartenstein 的 pop 位点。相比 之下，灰熊的做法完全相反——他们故意「不防」，让回合以 Hartenstein 自行出手或 运球单打作结。而这种策略不只发生在 Huff 身上。 Here's Jaren Jackson Jr. executing the same scheme. 这里就连 Jaren Jackson Jr. 也在执行同样的防守策略。 https://i.imgur.com/jBVbfBJ.mp4 In that sense, a lot of this says as much about the difference in philosophy between Memphis and the Pacers, as it does, specifically, about Huff. 从这角度来看，这不只是关於 Huff 的个别案例，更反映了灰熊与溜马在防守哲学上的根 本差异。 Still, there's reason to view him as a single pick-and-roll coverage big. The Grizzlies played ICE coverage, in which the action gets pushed to the sideline, a bit more often than the Pacers, who ranked 30th in ICE-d picks per 100 possessions, but this clip is still informative of Huff's tendency to allow the ball-handler to get into deep, advantageous positions, forcing himself into longer, arduous closeouts. 尽管如此，仍有理由将 Huff 视为只能执行单一挡拆防守类型的大个子。灰熊比较常使 用 ICE 防守（将挡拆引导至边线），比起联盟 ICE 频率排名第 30 的溜马来说，他们使 用得更多。但从这段影片来看，我们可以清楚看到 Huff 容易让持球人深入到有利区域， 进而让自己不得不进行又长又辛苦的回防补位。 https://i.imgur.com/7ewpXgP.mp4 Again, this is a departure from the Pacers, who while ranking last in ICE frequency, also posted the second-lowest average screener defender depth in the league, at just 4.42 feet, as Turner could often be seen giving the screener a gentle nudge to force them to actually set the pick while protecting against the potential slip. 这与溜马的防守风格再度背道而驰。虽然他们的 ICE 使用率全联盟最低，但他们的掩护 防守者平均站位深度却是全联盟第二浅，仅 4.42 英尺。Turner 常常主动顶一下掩护者 ，让他确实设置掩护，同时预防对方 slip（假掩护快速切入）。 That said, there were plenty of occasions during the Finals when he struggled to play that high, and it's telling that the Pacers gave up 0.940 points per chance with him as the screener defender when Siakam was on the floor, which is the equivalent of a top-five mark, compared to 1.037 when Siakam was off the floor, which is the equivalent of a bottom-five mark. 不过，总冠军赛中 Turner 也有不少时候无法维持高位防守。而值得注意的是，当 Siakam 在场时，溜马在他作为掩护防守者的回合平均只失 0.940 分，接近联盟前五水准 ；但当 Siakam 不在场时，这数字飙升到 1.037 分，接近联盟後五水准。 To be fair, some of that discrepancy can likely be explained by the general drop-off between Siakam and Obi Toppin as defenders, but Turner wasn't exactly propping up the team's pick-and-roll coverage as a ball-side anchor when Siakam was off the floor. 公平来说，这当中也许有部分可以归因於 Siakam 和 Obi Toppin 防守能力的差距；但也 不能否认，当 Siakam 不在场时，Turner 并没有完全扛起作为强侧挡拆防守核心的责任 。 There's a reason why the defense was more effective against wide-angle drives and slaloms, when Siakam and/or Nembhard could operate as guardrails, whether peel switching, stunting, digging, or just generally taking up space in the gaps, by comparison to those previously mentioned north-south attacks when the action was being funneled directly at Turner. 这也说明了为什麽溜马的防守在面对大范围切入或「S型突破」时效果更好，因为这类打 法可以让 Siakam 和/或 Nembhard 当作防守栏杆，不论是 Peel switch、假包夹、挖球 ，还是站位卡位，都能发挥作用。这比起前面提到那种直接朝 Turner 杀去的纵向攻击， 效果好得多。 If the Pacers carryover the same scheme next season, it's possible that same scaffolding could likewise enable Huff to defend higher up the floor, as his average screener defender depth was 7.70 feet compared to 5.05 for Turner, including the playoffs. 如果下季溜马继续使用同样的防守框架，也许可以让 Huff 一样站得比较前线。毕竟他在 季後赛包含在内的平均防守掩护者深度为 7.70 英尺，相较 Turner 的 5.05 英尺来得更 深。 If not, then playing him at centerfield could put Nembhard even more front and center, in terms of everything that could potentially be asked of him in the absence of Haliburton. 但如果不是如此，那麽让 Huff 站中线区防守，只会让 Nembhard 被迫承担更多责任，尤 其是在没有 Haliburton 的情况下，几乎所有压力都会加在他一人身上。 Put simply, there aren't a lot of starting point guards who initiate the majority of their team's offense while also guarding the other team's top-initiator. Then, add to that the fact that the Pacers have posted the two highest average pick-up distances in the playoffs of any team in Genius Sports' 12-year tracking database the last two seasons. Then, also add to that, the potential aforementioned energy and effort that would be required of him if Huff were to drop back to the rim in a one-man zone. Admittedly, there are merits to playing that type of scheme, but that would be … a lot. 简单来说，联盟中几乎没有先发控卫要同时扛下全队大部分的进攻发起责任，还要去防守 对方的进攻发动机。更何况，根据 Genius Sports 过去 12 年的追踪数据，溜马连两季 在季後赛创下全联盟「最远接防距离」的纪录。再加上若 Huff 采用一人区域退守策略， Nembhard 的体能与精神消耗将会更巨大。诚然，这种防守布局有其优点，但代价……真 的非常高。 If Isaiah Jackson signs the qualifying offer that's on the table and is close to being the former version of himself after recovering from his Achilles injury, then he'll offer more in the way of scheme versatility as far as mixing pick-and-roll coverages. 如果 Isaiah Jackson 接下球队提供的合格报价，并且在阿基里斯伤势复原後恢复过去的 水准，那麽他将能为溜马在挡拆防守上带来更多弹性与变化。 Meanwhile, the fact that Huff shot 19-of-50 on corner threes last season suggests that the Pacers should still have the flexibility to shape-shift into different alignments, whether stationing him in the strong-side corner with a guard in the dunker spot so that an opposing guard has to guard the rim... 同时，Huff 上季在底角三分命中率为 19 投 50 中，这代表溜马仍有空间调整进攻布局 ——可以把他放在强侧底角，搭配後卫埋伏在篮下 dunker spot，迫使对方後卫去守禁区 …… https://i.imgur.com/WPfq5T8.mp4 Or, for the purpose of opening a wider gap on the perimeter for Siakam to attack into. 或者，单纯为了帮 Siakam 在外围制造更大的切入空间。 https://i.imgur.com/WPfq5T8.mp4 Likewise, for the functionality of how the Pacers generally keep Siakam posted, it's encouraging that there are examples of bigs defending Huff at the top of the key, where he shot 40.8% on 98 attempts last season, with their heels outside the paint. 而就溜马惯常让 Siakam 在中距离低位打单的战术来说，也可以乐观看待 Huff 的定位： 上季他在顶弧投篮 98 次命中率 40.8%，而对手的中锋常常因此要站在禁区外防他。 https://i.imgur.com/YWIKxVQ.mp4 That wasn't always the case with Thomas Bryant last season, which makes the high-low entry to Siakam out of their pet-play "c" much more difficult to execute. 这在去年 Thomas Bryant 身上并不常见，也因此让溜马最爱的「c 套路」高低位传球给 Siakam 更难施展。 https://i.imgur.com/9SvQnWr.mp4 Plus, it's always a plus if the big can run the floor and finish reverse lobs, right? Last season, Toppin was the only player for the Pacers who completed more lobs (28) than Huff (13), who actually edged out Toppin (0.672) in lobs per 100 possessions (0.788). 再说了，如果中锋能全场奔跑并完成反向空接，那当然是加分。上季全队只有 Toppin 的 空接完成数（28 次）比 Huff（13 次）多，而每 100 回合的空接完成率，Huff（0.788 ）甚至略高於 Toppin（0.672）。 Overall, this is a low-risk move. After getting nothing in return for Turner, the Pacers gave up next to nothing to acquire Huff, who obviously comes at a much lower price point in what could potentially turn into a gap year. 整体而言，这笔交易风险极低。溜马在白白失去 Turner 之後，几乎没花什麽代价就换 来 Huff，他的身价明显低很多，也许能成为今年阵容过渡期的一块拼图。 To that point, while it's possible that Huff can replicate some of last season's alignment flexibility without Turner, there's still a lot to be answered as to how the offense will run, both figuratively and literally, without Haliburton. Nembhard has shown he can level up his game while playing point, but doing so for a full season without Haliburton's gravity will be a new reality, as will the fact that, depending upon how the Pacers scheme the defense with Huff, it seems fair to ask who on the roster can play the part of Andrew Nembhard for Andrew Nembhard? 延伸来说，虽然 Huff 可能在没有 Turner 的情况下复制部分上季的布阵弹性，但进攻端 若缺少 Haliburton，整体运作仍存在不少疑问。Nembhard 曾证明自己能胜任控球职责， 但若要他在没有 Haliburton 吸引防守的情况下打一整季，这将是全新的挑战。尤其如果 溜马以 Huff 为核心设计防守，那麽有个关键问题会浮现：到底有谁，能在 Nembhard 身 边，扮演另一个 Nembhard？ In that regard, as it pertains to lessening the blossoming guard's potentially immense workload, every game won't be Game 5 of the NBA Finals against the Oklahoma City Thunder; however, the Pacers may also need to make some tweaks headed into next season to ensure that every game for Nembhard doesn't turn out to be the equivalent of Game 5 of the NBA Finals against the Oklahoma City Thunder. 从这角度来看，为了减轻这位正在成长的後卫可能过重的负担，并不是每场比赛都会像对 雷霆的总冠军第五战那样艰难；但溜马可能需要在下季开打前做出一些战术调整，确保 Nembhard 的每一场比赛，都不会变成另一场雷霆第五战。 ---- 原文连结 : https://tinyurl.com/478kh39z 喜欢 Caitlin Clark 的可以订阅她支持她喔 她每个礼拜会回答一些溜马迷的问题 她跟球队里面的人都很熟 网路上很多人称呼她是最专业的溜马分析师 --

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