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※ 引述《PiGFAcE (被遗忘在沙滩上的脚印)》之铭言: ※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1Fl79DOs ] 作者: djviva (淡定~ 稳中求胜) 看板: NBA 标题: [外絮] Hear-Pacer's Physical Turns FLAGRANT 时间: Wed May 23 13:14:50 2012 http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/05/22/heat-pacers-physical-turns-flagrant/ Maybe someone on the Miami bench got the memo from Pat Riley. 或许板凳上的某人拿到了莱里的小纸条 Whatever it was, the days of the Heat scoffing at the Indiana Pacers’ “tough ” tactics – mostly embodied by Danny Granger’s yapping through the first four games – ended with a thud – and an oomphs and a crunch or two – in Game 5 Tuesday night at AmericanAirlines Arena. 无论如何 那个被热火一直嘲笑的"强硬"战术 那个在前四场由妙丽的吵吵闹闹表现的战术 在这一瞬间结束了 还爆出一些灿烂火花 Granted, Tyler Hansbrough initiated the physical stuff Tuesday in what became Miami’s 115-83 blowout victory, good for a 3-2 edge in the best-of-seven playoff series. Hansbrough smothered Dwyane Wade on a drive to the basket and opened a cut above the Miami shooting guard’s right eye, sending him to the bench for some corner work and earning Hansbrough a flagrant-1 foul. 在由汉堡开始的肢体接触大战最後以115-83热火大胜坐收 在七战四胜的系列赛中热火以三比二领先 汉堡在依个伟德上篮的球中割伤了伟德右眼周边 使得伟德被迫回到板凳一阵子也让汉堡吃下了一级恶意犯规 That was at 10:23 of the second quarter. Only 41 seconds later, Miami got some payback that seemed right from the old Riley playbook (New York days especially) of smash-mouth basketball. And he is the Heat team president, after all. 那时离中场结束还有十分钟二十三秒, 四十一秒後热火报仇了 这种报仇方法很像当年莱里在纽约时期的硬汉篮球 当然大家都知道莱里现在是热火的总裁 Udonis Haslem – who had suffered a similar bloody gash over his right eye in Game 4, thanks to an errant Louis Amundson elbow – saw the opening when Hansbrough got the ball on the left wing and came forward, jumping to shoot. The Heat power forward went up with two arms high and brought them down hard, way right of the ball but hard at Hansbrough’s head. Down went Hansbrough, as the Miami crowd roared. 哈斯兰 在第四战中因为阿忙的手肘刮伤了右眼四周 看到汉堡在左翼拿到球接进篮框正准备跳投 这个热火的大前锋直接跳起把两臂往汉堡头上一槌 汉堡在热火群众鼓噪中被打了下莱 At first, ref Jason Phillips seemed to indicate that Haslem was gone, the natural result of a flagrant-2 foul. But a review of the play and conversations amongst the officials produced only a flagrant-1. It was the same penalty that Hansbrough had been dealt, though the Pacers player at least went for the ball while snuffing Wade with it. 一开始裁判要把哈斯兰判出场因为他认为那是一个二级恶意犯规 不过其他裁判会审并看了重播以後决定这是一个一级恶意犯规 这跟刚刚汉堡犯的规差不多 虽然汉堡刚刚是对球不对人 “I felt like I got hit in the face,” Hansbrough said of the foul he absorbed. Should it have been the stiffer flagrant-2? “That’s for you guys to decide.” "我觉得我被打脸了" 汉堡针对那个犯规发言 "这是个二级恶意犯规吗?这个交给你们自己决定" The reaction within the Pacers ranks, and among media at the game, in the blogosphere and at halftime in the TNT studio was nearly unanimous: It should have been a flagrant-2 and Haslem should have been out. Instead, he stuck around and scored 10 points with six rebounds in 17 minutes of work. 在溜马阵线,各个媒体的发言,以及当时众多部落格甚至是半场讲解时的TNT球评大家看法都是一致的 (这边没有提到Ptt的NBA版看法与以上不太一致,觉得是溜马脏) 这应该是一个二级恶意犯规 且哈斯兰应该被赶出场的, 然而呢她留在场上并且在十七分钟内得到十分六篮板 Later, Miami coach Erik Spoelstra was asked about it before, Spoelstra said, he’d had a chance to see any replays. “We thought he was making a play on the ball. It’s a physical series. Nobody wants to make it into anything more than that,” the Heat coach said. “We have to beat them at the game of basketball. Anyhing that’s over the line, we don’t want any of that. But we have to play physical, we have to play with force. They’re doing the same thing.” 接着迈阿密总教练湿婆被问到, 她说她没机会看到重播 "我们觉得她是想要守住那球,这是个肢体接触很大的系列, 没有人想要超过那个尺度" 湿婆接着说 "我们只想用篮球击败他们, 篮球以外的我们都不要, 但是我们会打的很强硬 我们会打的狠有力量, 因为他们也正如此的打球" Said Indiana forward David West, who had his own battered game (10 points, four rebounds) to focus on: “He just came in to deliver a hard foul. I mean, all’s fair. That’s the way I look at it.” 印第安纳大前锋大卫西, 这场打的也很烂(十分四篮板) 他提到 "哈斯兰冲上前救是要犯那个恶性犯规的, 就是这样, 这是我的看法" There was one more nasty foul, this one coming near the end of garbage time. Heat deep-reserve big man Dexter Pittman nailed Pacers guard Lance Stephenson with an elbow with 19.4 seconds left to earn himself a flagrant-1. It was part Andrew Bynum circa 2011 elimination, part New Orleans Saints bounty. 在最後的垃圾时间有个更烂的恶性犯规 板凳末端的屁人肘击了溜马控卫丑脸儿子, 在剩下19.4秒比赛结束的时候 他也得到了一个一级恶意犯规, 有点像当年拜男2011禁赛的那球 又有点像纽奥良圣徒之前的冲撞赌博事件 Stephenson, remember, is the Pacers player who made a choke gesture when LeBron James bricked a free throw earlier in the series. Pittman even appeared to wink to someone while Stephenson shot his free throws. 丑脸儿子就是那个当时在喇叭詹罚球打铁以後比出掐脖子手势的人 屁人在丑脸儿子罚球的时候还对着某人眨眼 “He may have broken his collarbone,” Granger told reporters. “[Pittman] looked over and saw him coming. He laid him out. And he’s a big man.” "他可能打断他的锁骨" 妙丽说 "屁人瞄了一眼发现他来了, 然後屁人就把他击倒了, 而且屁人是个大个子" Now, with a day before Game 6 at Indiana, the video figures to be reviewed by the league headquarters. Will Haslem face a fine, suspension or both if his foul is upgraded to a flagrant-2? Might Pittman face additional penalties? Did the refs get Hansbrough’s right? 现在,距离第六场印第安纳的比赛还有一天, NBA总部将会重新审视录影带 到底哈斯兰会被罚款,禁赛还是两者都有(如果上升到二级技术犯规的话" 屁人蕙有额外的处罚吗? 裁判有保卫到汉堡的权益吗? Then there was a comment by West late Thursday, when asked about the physical stuff and a hit or two he might have absorbed. “I can handle it myself,” he said. “Don’t need anybody to protect me.” That seemed a veiled jab at James and Wade, who didn’t seek their own payback. 大卫西在上礼拜四表示, 当他被问到肢体接触以及一两个针对他的冲撞的时候 "我可以自己解决" 大卫西接着表示 "我不用靠别人莱帮忙" 这隐晦的暗示了小皇帝和伟德不自己来, 都靠别人报仇回来 Expect to see more “bodies colliding,” as Spoelstra has been calling it. "我们预期会有更多冲撞" 热火教练湿婆提到 -- 清晨雾一般的思念, 清新 double, 美丽 double, 捉摸不定 double... --



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1F:→ joumay :神奇小纸条出现罗.... 05/23 13:15
2F:→ rod13824 :谁翻译一下 05/23 13:15
3F:推 NT300 :有诚意就翻译在贴 05/23 13:16
4F:→ nagisanoff :简单的说 就是上梁不正下梁歪啦 05/23 13:16
5F:→ nagisanoff :从总管就脏了 05/23 13:16
6F:推 CW4 :官方highlight都不剪不知道是怎样 05/23 13:16
7F:→ nagisanoff :就想河蟹掉啊 LBJ再怎麽说还是史藤的宠信之一 05/23 13:17
8F:推 Gwendaline :上300不正 下nagi歪 05/23 13:17
9F:推 dergrossw :标题就错了是怎样.... 05/23 13:18
10F:推 KobeIchiro :Bird的确蛮脏的啦 哈哈 05/23 13:19
11F:→ dergrossw :内文没改到 05/23 13:22
12F:→ djviva :大家英文都很好的, 这篇红字重点都不难, OK的啦 05/23 13:22
13F:→ yomonkey :大意就是nagisanoff崩溃~~~~~~~~~~ 05/23 13:23
14F:→ dergrossw :内文标题 05/23 13:23
15F:→ yomonkey :推 Bird的确蛮脏的啦 哈哈 05/23 13:23
16F:推 blueteddy :looks like a flagrant 2 to me...... 05/23 13:24
17F:推 nogoodlaugh :简单翻译 : 迈阿密出狠招是遵循总管的传统配方 05/23 13:25
18F:→ nogoodlaugh :Wade 被 击坠之後 队长哈斯兰立刻挺身而出 05/23 13:25
19F:推 gogoegg :PITT那球太过份 但还一份回去 是应该的 05/23 13:25
20F:→ nogoodlaugh :把汉堡的头当球 赏他一个痛快 05/23 13:26
21F:→ gogoegg :你示弱了 就会被骑上去 05/23 13:26
22F:→ nogoodlaugh :第一时间 裁判想给个 2级恶性犯规 但看影片後 改1级 05/23 13:26
23F:→ nogoodlaugh :汉堡本身认为 他被打到头了 但怎麽判他管不着 05/23 13:27
24F:→ pounil :只准溜马尻人 不准火尻人 好大的乡威 05/23 13:28



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※ 转录者: PiGFAcE (71.189.138.47), 时间: 05/23/2012 13:48:02 --



※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc)
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25F:推 freijaking:在本板骂敌队球员(非球迷)可以吗 05/23 14:16
26F:推 pheather:不要用玩低级谐音或人身攻击应该就无所谓吧 05/23 14:17
27F:→ PiGFAcE:有骂到别队球迷吗??跟我说一下我修一下 没有特别要骂 05/23 14:18
28F:→ PiGFAcE:*别队球员 05/23 14:18
29F:推 mygapawa:丑脸儿子XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 05/23 14:43
30F:推 howlong:真是越来越爱大卫西了! 05/23 14:58
31F:推 KingGeorge24:阿伯真男人 下场比赛讨回来!!!! 05/23 15:02
32F:推 indpa5553:说实话我们既然要打强硬球风,别人要说甚麽就随他们说吧 05/23 15:07
33F:推 chainlu:没跟到比赛只看highlight,只能说最後的犯规太夸张了吧 05/23 15:14
34F:推 b89701221:人家硬我们就更硬 人家脏我们就更脏 把球赛拿下来就对了 05/23 15:14
35F:推 pezhan:现在我们有谁在赛後主动说啥吗?好像都是记者去问,没有谁在 05/23 15:20
36F:推 cs410567cs:想看干架 05/23 15:21
37F:→ pezhan:推特上放话呛声的吧?对方也只有Wade这小屁孩 05/23 15:29
38F:推 hsf0318:喇叭跟典伟有种就自己来恶意犯规 叫小弟当替死鬼真没种 05/23 15:49
39F:推 singzion333:一点王者风度都没有 05/23 16:03
40F:推 pheather:Well,这些场外风波或许有助於点燃球员的斗志,用更强硬的 05/23 16:09
41F:→ pheather:态度去面对G6,但这两场其实并不是输在这些有的没的上 05/23 16:11
42F:→ pheather:篮板和防守,尤其是对两巨头之外球员的防守才是要务 05/23 16:12
43F:推 capsssss2700:推篮板根防守 05/23 16:52
44F:推 capsssss2700:不想办法巩固篮板跟降低二王进攻 真的很难赢 05/23 16:56
45F:推 freijaking:猪脸 我1F是帮自己问 我想大骂的 -.- 05/23 16:58
46F:推 silverice:Haslem说他对球不对人 所以球应该是在汉堡脸上 其实汉 05/23 17:06
47F:→ silverice:堡是游乐园的海狗吧 05/23 17:06
48F:推 agentina:妈的有种你就犯在阿泰的身上 看会发生什麽事 05/23 20:21
49F:→ agentina:阿泰和丑脸会冲上去打观众打到你们叫不敢 05/23 20:22
50F:推 cenaLBJ:就是有借有还罢了,又不是娘泡..... 05/23 20:30
51F:推 pezhan:也是,汉堡犯Wade,结果是牙套来还,而Wade撞比他小只的DC 05/23 21:57
52F:→ hsf0318:Wade有种就自己去敲汉堡的头 我赌Wade没那个胆 05/23 22:51
53F:推 PsychoT:他当然没有~ 05/23 23:47
54F:推 unmeinohito:塞口替多练练背框吧 身体这麽厚 05/23 23:56
55F:→ unmeinohito:下一场让塞口替守喇叭詹好了 看他守得蛮有心得的样子 05/23 23:57







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