作者windcat (nothing here)
看板P2PSoftWare
标题Re: [问题] [D2V]?
时间Mon Aug 18 23:01:11 2003
转贴自TLF, 翻译者为huaye
(没op吧...@@...好长)
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关於DVDScr, Screener,TS, TC等常见术语
从文件名"12.29.02.Lord.Of.The.Rings.The.Two.Towers.*SVCD*.*TS*.FTF"中可以知道什
麽信息呢?
12.29.02表示发布的日期。
Lord.Of.The.Rings.The.Two.Towers是电影的名字。
*SVCD*表示发布的格式是SVCD
*TS*表示影片的来源是TELESYNC (TS)。
有很多网友问及SCREENER,TS,TC,PDVD是什麽意思,以及质量如何。也看见有网友发表
关於电影发布版本术语的解释,我觉得有不确切的地方。比如PROPER并不代表质量完美,TS
或Telesync并非指从放影机转制。其实Telesync和CAM都是用digital camera或camcorder在
影院录制(俗称枪版),质量起伏很大。
下面是我从VCDQuality.com转摘的关於这些术语的解释。本人现在翻译了关於片源部分。
中英文对照,因为错误总是难免的。
翻译者:huaye at TLF BBS
Source
来源
CAM -
A cam is a theater rip usually done with a digital video camera. A mini tripod
is sometimes used, but a lot of the time this wont be possible, so the camera m
ake shake. Also seating placement isn't always idle, and it might be filmed fro
m an angle. If cropped properly, this is hard to tell unless there's text on th
e screen, but a lot of times these are left with triangular borders on the top
and bottom of the screen. Sound is taken from the onboard microphone of the cam
era, and especially in comedies, laughter can often be heard during the film. D
ue to these factors picture and sound quality are usually quite poor, but somet
imes we're lucky, and the theater will be fairly empty and a fairly clear signa
l will be heard.
CAM通常是用数码摄像机从电影院盗录。有时会使用小三角架,但大多数时候不可能使用,
所以摄像机会抖动。同时由於放摄像机的座位并非总是空的,使得有时拍摄不是水平的。
如果後期剪裁很好,这很难看出,除非屏幕下方有字幕。由
於声音是从摄像机自带的话筒录制,所以经常会录到观众的笑声等声音,尤其是喜剧片。
因为这些因素,图像和声音质量通常都很差。但有时很幸运电影院相当空,这样会录到好一
些的声音。
TELESYNC (TS) -
A telesync is the same spec as a CAM except it uses an external audio source (m
ost likely an audio jack in the chair for hard of hearing people). A direct aud
io source does not ensure a good quality audio source, as a lot of background n
oise can interfere. A lot of the times a telesync is filmed in an empty cinema
or from the projection booth with a professional camera, giving a better pictur
e quality. Quality ranges drastically, check the sample before downloading the
full release. A high percentage of Telesyncs are CAMs that have been mislabeled
.
除了使用外置的音源(一般是影院座椅上为听力不好的人设的耳机孔),TELESYSNC(TS)
和CAM的标准是相同的。这个直接的音源并不能保证是好的音源,这是它因为受到很多背景噪
音的干扰。很多时候TS是在空的影院录制,或是用专业摄像机在投影室录制,所以图像质
量可能比CAM好。质量的起伏可能很大,在下载前最好查看SAMPLE。很大比例的TS是从CAM错
误标记成。
TELECINE (TC) -
A telecine machine copies the film digitally from the reels. Sound and picture
should be very good, but due to the equipment involved and cost telecines are f
airly uncommon. Generally the film will be in
correct aspect ratio, although 4:3 telecines have existed. A great example is t
he JURASSIC PARK 3 TC done last year. TC should not be confused with TimeCode ,
which is a visible counter on screen throughout the film.
TELECINE (TC) 使用电视电影机从胶片直接数字拷贝,其图像和声音质量应该很好。但由
於使用的设备和费用很高,TC很少见。通常会使用正确的高宽比,但有时也有4:3的TC。去年
的侏罗纪公园III是一个很好的例子。不应将TC和TimeCode(时间码)混淆,时间码是一个在
屏幕上可见的计数器。
SCREENER (SCR) -
A pre VHS tape, sent to rental stores, and various other places for promotional
use. A screener is supplied on a VHS tape, and is usually in a 4:3 (full scree
n) a/r, although letterboxed screeners are sometimes found. The main draw back
is a "ticker" (a message that scrolls past at the bottom of the screen, with th
e copyright and anti-copy telephone number). Also, if the tape contains any ser
ial numbers, or any other markings that could lead to the source of the tape, t
hese will have to be blocked, usually with a black mark over the section. This
is sometimes only for a few seconds, but unfortunately on some copies this will
last for the entire film, and some can be quite big. Depending on the equipmen
t used, screener quality can range from excellent if done from a MASTER copy, t
o very poor if done on an old VHS recorder thru poor capture equipment on a cop
ied tape. Most screeners are transferred to VCD, but a few attempts at SVCD hav
e occurred, some looking better than others.
SCREENER(SCR)是在电影发行VHS录像带之前送到录像出租店及其他地方用做促销目的。SCR
EENER使用VHS录像带,通常使用4:3(全屏)的高宽比,但有时也会有LETTERBOXED(1.85:1
宽银幕) SCREENER. 主要的缺点是有「TICKER」(在屏幕下
方滚动的消息,包含版权和反盗版电话号码)。同时,如果录像带包含任何序列号或可以
导致查出录像带来源的记号,这些记号必须被遮掉,通常使用一个黑斑遮住上述部位。有时
这些记号只出现几秒钟,有时也可能不幸在怎个电影中出现,而且有时会很大。根据使用的
设备,SCREENER的质量可能是极好,如果是从原版拷贝;也可能很差,如果是从翻录的拷贝
录制,同时又使用很烂的捕捉设备和录像机。大多数的SCREENER被转制成VCD,现在也出现了
SVCD;有些看起来比
另一些好。
DVD-SCREENER (DVDscr) -
Same premise as a screener, but transferred off a DVD. Usually letterbox , but
without the extras that a DVD retail would contain. The ticker is not usually i
n the black bars, and will disrupt the viewing. If the ripper has any skill, a
DVDscr should be very good. Usually transferred to SVCD or DivX/XviD.
DVD-SCREENER(DVDscr)和SCREENER相似,但是从DVD转制。通常是1.85:1宽银幕,但是不包
括零售版会有的花絮。TICKER经常不在黑边里,所以会影响观看。如果转制者稍有技术,D
VDScr应该很好。通常被转制成SVCD或DivX/XviD。
DVDRip -
A copy of the final released DVD. If possible this is released PRE retail (for
example, Star Wars episode 2) again, should be excellent quality. DVDrips are r
eleased in SVCD and DivX/XviD.
DVDRip是从最终版的DVD转制。如果可能,应该是使用预售版(比如,星球大战2)。质量
应该很好。通常被发布成SVCD或DivX/XviD
VHSRip -
Transferred off a retail VHS, mainly skating/sports videos and XXX releases.
VHSRip是从零售版VHS录像带转制,主要是滑冰/体育内容和XXX发布。
TVRip -
TV episode that is either from Network (capped using digital cable/satellite bo
xes are preferable) or PRE-AIR from satellite feeds sending the program around
to networks a few days earlier (do not contain "dogs" but sometimes have flicke
rs etc) Some programs such as WWF Raw Is War contain extra parts, and the "dark
matches" and camera/commentary tests are included on the rips. PDTV is capped
from a digital TV PCI card, generally giving the best results, and groups tend
to release in SVCD for these. VCD/SVCD/DivX/XviD rips are all supported by the
TV scene.
从电视(最好是从数码有线电视/卫星电视捕捉)转制的电视剧,或接收由卫星提前几天向
电视网传送的预播节目(不包含加密但有时有雪花)。有些节目,比如WWF RAW IS WAR包
含多余的部分;"DARK MATCHES"和CAMERA/COMMENTARY测试被包含在TVRip里。PDTV是从PCI数
码电视卡捕捉,通常效果最好;破解组织倾向於使用SVCD来发布。VCD/SVCD/DivX/XviD ri
ps也都被用於发布TVRip。
WORKPRINT (WP) -
A workprint is a copy of the film that has not been finished. It can be missing
scenes, music, and quality can range from excellent to very poor. Some WPs are
very different from the final print (Men In Black is missing all the aliens, a
nd has actors in their places) and others can contain extra scenes (Jay and Sil
ent Bob) . WPs can be nice additions to the collection once a good quality fina
l has been obtained.
WORKPRITN (WP)是从未完成的电影拷贝转制而成,可能会缺失镜头和音乐。质量可能从最
好到很差。有些WP可能和最终版本相差很远。(MEN IN BLACK的WP丢失了所有的外星人,代之
以演员);另一些则包括多余的镜头(Jay and Silent Bob). WPs可以作为有了好质量的最
终版本後的附加收藏。
DivX Re-Enc -
A DivX re-enc is a film that has been taken from its original VCD source, and r
e-encoded into a small DivX file. Most commonly found on file sharers, these ar
e usually labeled something like Film.Name.Group(1of2) etc. Common groups are S
MR and TND. These aren't really worth downloading, unless you're that unsure ab
out a film u only want a 200mb copy of it. Generally avoid.
DivXRe-Enc是从原始VCD发布用DivX编码成的小一些的文件。通常可在文件共享网络找到。
它们通常以Film.Name.Group(1of2)等形式命名。常见的发布组织有SMR和TND。这些版本通
常不值得下载,除非你不清楚某部电影,只想要200MB的版本。一般应避免。
Watermarks -
A lot of films come from Asian Silvers/PDVD (see below) and these are tagged by
the people responsible. Usually with a letter/initials or a little logo, gener
ally in one of the corners. Most famous are the "Z" "A" and "Globe" watermarks.
很多从Asian Silvers/PDVD (参看下面)来的电影带有制作人的标记。通常是一个字母,名
字缩写或图标,位於屏幕一角。最有名的是"Z","A"和"Globe".
Asian Silvers / PDVD -
These are films put out by eastern bootleggers, and these are usually bought by
some groups to put out as their own. Silvers are very cheap and easily availab
le in a lot of countries, and its easy to put out a release, which is why there
are so many in the scene at the moment, mainly from smaller groups who don't l
ast more than a few releases. PDVDs are the same thing pressed onto a DVD. They
have removable subtitles, and the quality is usually better than the silvers.
These are ripped like a normal DVD, but usually released as VCD.
Asian Silvers / PDVD是亚洲盗版商发行影片的,通常被一些发布组织购买来当做他们自
己的发布。Silvers很便宜,在很多国家都很容易找到。发布Silvers很容易,所以现在有很
多发布,主要是由一些小的组织发布;这些组织通常发布几个RELEASE後就不见了。PDVD和Si
lver一样,不过是压在DVD上。PDVD通常有外挂字幕,质量也比Silver好。PDVD象普通的DV
D一样转制,但通常用VCD的格式发布。
这是我翻译的第二部分。
Scene Tags
发布文件的标志
PROPER -
Due to scene rules, whoever releases the first Telesync has won that race (for
example). But if the quality of that release is fairly poor, if another group h
as another telesync (or the same source in higher quality) then the tag PROPER
is added to the folder to avoid being duped. PROPER is the most subjective tag
in the scene, and a lot of people will generally argue whether the PROPER is be
tter than the original release. A lot of groups release PROPERS just out of des
peration due to losing the race. A reason for the PROPER should always be inclu
ded in the NFO.
根据发布规则,最先发布Telesync (TS)的组织赢得(TS发布的)比赛。但是,如果这个发布
版本质量很差,同时另一组织有另一TS版本(或质量更好的同一片源),那麽标记PROPER被
加到目录上以避免重复。PROPER是一个最主观的标记,很多人会争论是否PROPER比原始发布
版本好。很多发布组织只不过因为输掉了发布比赛而发布PROPER。发布PROPER的原因因该总
是包含在NFO文件里。
SUBBED -
In the case of a VCD, if a release is subbed, it usually means it has hard enco
ded subtitles burnt throughout the movie. These are generally in malaysian/chin
ese/thai etc, and sometimes there are two different languages, which can take u
p quite a large amount of the screen. SVCD supports switch able subtitles, so s
ome DVDRips are released with switch able subs. This will be mentioned in the N
FO file if included.
对於VCD发布而言,SUBBED通常表示字幕被压进了电影。它们通常是马来语/中文/泰文等,
有时有两种语言。它们可能占据了很大一部分屏幕。SVCD支持外挂字幕,所以DVDRip用外
挂字幕发布。这些信息可以在NFO文件中找到。
UNSUBBED -
When a film has had a subbed release in the past, an Unsubbed release may be re
leased
当一部电影曾经发布过有字幕的SUBBED版本,没字幕的UNSUBBED版本也可能发布。
LIMITED -
A limited movie means it has had a limited theater run, generally opening in le
ss than 250 theaters, generally smaller films (such as art house films) are rel
eased as limited.
LIMITED电影指该电影只在有限的电影院放映,通常少於250家。通常较小的电影(比如艺
术电影)的发行是LIMETED。
INTERNAL -
An internal release is done for several reasons. Classic DVD groups do a lot of
.INTERNAL. releases, as they wont be dupe'd on it. Also lower quality theater
rips are done INTERNAL so not to lower the reputation of the group, or due to t
he amount of rips done already. An INTERNAL release is available as normal on t
he groups affiliate sites, but they can't be traded to other sites without requ
est from the site ops. Some INTERNAL releases still trickle down to IRC/Newsgro
ups, it usually depends on the title and the popularity. Earlier in the year pe
ople referred to Centropy going "internal". This meant the group were only rele
asing the movies to their members and site ops. This is in a different context
to the usual definition.
INTERNAL发布有几个原因。经典的DVD组织有很多.INTERNAL.发布版本,这样不会引起混淆
。同时,低质量的发布会加以INTERNAL标记,这样不会降低发布组织的声誉,或由於已经
发布的数量。INTERNAL发布可以正常的在组织的会员网站上获取,但没有其他网站管理员的
要求它们不可以被交换到其他网站。一些TERNAL发布仍然流到IRC/NEWSGROUP,这通常取决於
电影及其流行度。今年早些时候,人们把CENTROPY做为INTERNAL。这表示发布组织只向其
会员和网站管理员发布。这和其通常意思不同。
STV -
Straight To Video. Was never released in theaters, and therefore a lot of sites
do not allow these.
STV表示电影从未在电影院放映过就被发布,因此很多望网站不允许STV。
ASPECT RATIO TAGS -
These are *WS* for widescreen (letterbox) and *FS* for Fullscreen.
*ws*表示宽银幕,*FS*表示全屏幕。
RECODE -
A recode is a previously released version, usually filtered through TMPGenc to
remove subtitles, fix color etc. Whilst they can look better, its not looked up
on highly as groups are expected to obtain their own sources.
RECODE是以前已经发布过的版本,通常用TMPGenc编码过滤以去除字幕,纠正颜色等。虽然
它们看起来好一些,但通常不认为这是好的行为因为发布组织应该去找他们自己的片源。
REPACK -
If a group releases a bad rip, they will release a Repack which will fix the pr
oblems.
如果发布组织发布了一个坏的版本,他们会发布REPACK来解决这些问题。
NUKED -
A film can be nuked for various reasons. Individual sites will nuke for breakin
g their rules (such as "No Telesyncs") but if the film has something extremely
wrong with it (no soundtrack for 20mins, CD2 is incorrect film/game etc) then a
global nuke will occur, and people trading it across sites will lose their cre
dits. Nuked films can still reach other sources such as p2p/usenet, but its a g
ood idea to check why it was nuked first in case. If a group realise there is s
omething wrong, they can request a nuke.
一个发布可能因为多种原因被NUKE掉。有些网站会因为违犯他们的规则而NUKE发布(比如不
允许发布TS版本)。但如果发布的版本有很大的问题(如20分钟没有声音,CD2是错误的电影
或游戏),那麽所有的网站都会NUKE这个发布。在这些网站上交换NUKED版本的人会失掉他
们的信誉。但NUKED发布仍然可以通过P2P/USENET传播,所以应该总是首先找到其被NUKE的原
因以防万一。如果发布组织发觉他们的发布有问题,他们可以要求NUKE。
NUKE REASONS :: this is a list of common reasons a film can be nuked for (gener
ally DVDRip)
常见的NUKE原因(通常是DVDRIP):
** BAD A/R ** :: bad aspect ratio, ie people appear too fat/thin
错误的高宽比,即画面太胖或太瘦。
** BAD IVTC ** :: bad inverse telecine. process of converting framerates was in
correct.
错误的反转电视电影TC。转换祯频不对。
** INTERLACED ** :: black lines on movement as the field order is incorrect.
移动的黑线,由於field order不正确。
DUPE -
Dupe is quite simply, if something exists already, then theres no reason for it
to exist again without proper reason.
DUPE很简单。如果某个电影发布已有,那麽没有合适的理由就不因该允许它的存在。
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以下部分涉及发布的格式等,更发布的质量关系不大,所以我没有翻译。
Formats
VCD -
VCD is an mpeg1 based format, with a constant bitrate of 1150kbit at a resoluti
on of 352x240 (NTCS). VCDs are generally used for lower quality transfers (CAM/
TS/TC/Screener(VHS)/TVrip(analogue) in order to make smaller file sizes, and fi
t as much on a single disc as possible. Both VCDs and SVCDs are timed in minute
s, rather than MB, so when looking at an mpeg, it may appear larger than the di
sc capacity, and in reality u can fit 74min on a CDR74.
SVCD -
SVCD is an mpeg2 based (same as DVD) which allows variable bit-rates of up to 2
500kbits at a resolution of 480x480 (NTSC) which is then decompressed into a 4:
3 aspect ratio when played back. Due to the variable bit-rate, the length you c
an fit on a single CDR is not fixed, but generally between 35-60 Mins are the m
ost common. To get a better SVCD encode using variable bit-rates, it is importa
nt to use multiple "passes". this takes a lot longer, but the results are far c
learer.
XVCD/XSVCD -
These are basically VCD/SVCD that don't obey the "rules". They are both capable
of much higher resolutions and bit-rates, but it all depends on the player to
whether the disc can be played. X(S)VCD are total non-standards, and are usuall
y for home-ripping by people who don't intend to release them.
DivX / XviD -
DivX is a format designed for multimedia platforms. It uses two codecs, one low
motion, one high motion. most older films were encoded in low motion only, and
they have problems with high motion too. A method known as SBC (Smart Bit-rate
Control) was developed which switches codecs at the encoding stage, making a m
uch better print. The format is Ana orphic and the bit-rate/resolution are inte
rchangeable. Due to the higher processing power required, and the different cod
ecs for playback, its unlikely we'll see a DVD player capable of play DivX for
quite a while, if at all. There have been players in development which are supp
osedly capable, but nothing has ever arisen. The majority of PROPER DivX rips (
not Re-Encs) are taken from DVDs, and generally up to 2hours in good quality is
possible per disc. Various codecs exist, most popular being the original Divx3
.11a and the new XviD codecs.
CVD -
CVD is a combination of VCD and SVCD formats, and is generally supported by a m
ajority of DVD players. It supports MPEG2 bit-rates of SVCD, but uses a resolut
ion of 352x480(ntsc) as the horizontal resolution is generally less important.
Currently no groups release in CVD.
DVD-R -
Is the recordable DVD solution that seems to be the most popular (out of DVD-RA
M, DVD-R and DVD+R). it holds 4.7gb of data per side, and double sided discs ar
e available, so discs can hold nearly 10gb in some circumstances. SVCD mpeg2 im
ages must be converted before they can be burnt to DVD-R and played successfull
y. DVD>DVDR copies are possible, but sometimes extras/languages have to be remo
ved to stick within the available 4.7gb.
MiniDVD -
MiniDVD/cDVD is the same format as DVD but on a standard CDR/CDRW. Because of t
he high resolution/bit-rates, its only possible to fit about 18-21 mins of foot
age per disc, and the format is only compatible with a few players.
Misc Info
Regional Coding -
This was designed to stop people buying American DVDs and watching them earlier
in other countries, or for older films where world distribution is handled by
different companies. A lot of players can either be hacked with a chip, or via
a remote to disable this.
RCE -
RCE (Regional Coding Enhancement) was designed to overcome "Multiregion" player
s, but it had a lot of faults and was overcome. Very few titles are RCE encoded
now, and it was very unpopular.
Macrovision -
Macrovision is the copy protection employed on most commercial DVDs. Its a syst
em that will display lines and darken the images of copies that are made by sen
ding the VHS signals it can't understand. Certain DVD players (for example the
Dansai 852 from Tescos) have a secret menu where you can disable the macrovisio
n, or a "video stabaliser" costs about 30UKP from Maplin (www.maplin.co.uk)
NTSC/PAL -
NTSC and PAL are the two main standards used across the world. NTSC has a highe
r frame rate than pal (29fps compared to 25fps) but PAL has an increased resolu
tion, and gives off a generally sharper picture. Playing NTSC discs on PAL syst
ems seems a lot easier than vice-versa, which is good news for the Brits An RG
B enabled scart lead will play an NTSC picture in full colour on most modern tv
sets, but to record this to a VHS tape, you will need to convert it to PAL50 (
not PAL60 as the majority of DVD players do.) This is either achieved by an exp
ensive converter box (in the regions of £200+) an onboard converter (such as t
he Dansai 852 / certain Daewoos / Samsung 709 ) or using a World Standards VCR
which can record in any format.
News Sites -
There are generally 2 news sites, and I'm allowed to be biased For Games/Apps/
Console ::
www.isonews.com is generally regarded as the best, but for VCD/SVCD/DivX/TV/XXX
www.vcdquality.com displays screen grabs and allows feedback. **NOTICE** neith
er site offers movie downloads, and requesting movies/trades etc on the forums
of either is NOT permitted.
Release Files
RARset -
The movies are all supplied in RAR form, whether its v2 (rar>.rxx) or v3 (part0
1.rar > partxx.rar) form.
BIN/CUE -
VCD and SVCD films will extract to give a BIN/CUE. Load the .CUE into notepad a
nd make sure the first line contains only a filename, and no path information.
Then load the cue into Nero/CDRWin etc and this will burn the VCD/SVCD correctl
y. TV rips are released as MPEG. DivX files are just the plain DivX - .AVI
NFO -
An NFO file is supplied with each movie to promote the group, and give general
iNFOrmation about the release, such as format, source, size, and any notes that
may be of use. They are also used to recruit members and acquire hardware for
the group.
SFV -
Also supplied for each disc is an SFV file. These are mainly used on site level
to check each file has been uploaded correctly, but are also handy for people
downloading to check they have all the files, and the CRC is correct. A program
such as pdSFV or hkSFV is required to use these files.
Usenet Information
Access -
To get onto newsgroups, you will need a news server. Most ISPs supply one, but
this is usually of poor retention (the amount of time the files are on server f
or) and poor completition (the amount of files that make it there). For the bes
t service, a premium news server should be paid for, and these will often have
bandwidth restrictions in place.
Software -
You will need a newsreader to access the files in the binary newsgroups. There
are many different readers, and its usually down to personal opinion which is b
est. Xnews / Forte Agent / BNR 1 / BNR 2 are amongst the popular choices. Outlo
ok has the ability to read newsgroups, but its recommended to not use that.
Format -
Usenet posts are often the same as those listed on VCDQUALiTY (i.e., untouched
group releases) but you have to check the filenames and the description to make
sure you get what you think you are getting. Generally releases should come do
wn in .RAR sets. Posts will usually take more than one day to be uploaded, and
can be spread out as far as a week.
PAR files -
As well as the .rxx files, you will also see files listed as .pxx/.par . These
are PARITY files. Parity files are common in usenet posts, as a lot of times, t
here will be at least one or two damaged files on some servers. A parity file c
an be used to replace ANY ONE file that is missing from the rar set. The more P
AR files you have, the more files you can replace. You will need a program call
ed SMARTPAR for this.
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※ 引述《ppbb (赚钱.消费.读书)》之铭言:
: ※ 引述《GuessHeart (找一颗心来猜)》之铭言:
: : 板主误会了~~
: : 我问的问题还是关於档名的问题呀!!
: : 我才不想管他转档的技术是怎样咧
: : 重点是想要看到好的片子而已啊.....
: : 因为如果搞不懂档名中的什麽D2V或是DVDrip, 怎麽会知道他是不是盗摄的意思咧!!
: : -->看盗摄真的很不舒服
: 好的 那我就稍微解释一下
: D2V 很明显照字面上意思就是 DVD 转成 VCD 而VCD的解析度画质如何就不多解释
: DVDrip 主要原理是取出DVD里的vob,再利用各种视讯压缩的技术,诸如dvix,xvid等
: 而做成的,所以在来源上如果都是DVD来做成的档案,其实DVDrip大多数的时候,
: 解析度画质会比VCD来得好
: 像现在不少动画都是TVrip 我想很多都比正版VCD的看起来还细腻吧
: V8盗摄 主要是在还没有VCD或DVD的情况下才会出现的
: 就像现在柯南电影版 迷宫的十字路口 eM上流传的全都是V8版本
: 所以如果你不想抓盗摄的 有时就多看看别人的注解
: 或是在下载之前 把连结贴上来看看有没有人抓过 这样的解释可以吗
: 其实运气也占一点点重要的成分 抓到假档也是有可能的
: 有时也可能抓到画质好但没有字幕的影片 这种情形也相当多见
: 不过这情形就只差抓个字幕档就ok了
: 那以後如果出现同样的情形 请先把要抓的连结贴上来
: 这样让想回答的人也比较好帮助你
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