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※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1G6yqsDK ] 作者: lollygagger (chivalry's alive) 看板: NBA 标题: [外絮] Magic are following the Spurs' Model 时间: Fri Aug 3 21:08:01 2012 http://0rz.tw/Rz6Ww The Orlando Magic are following the San Antonio Spurs’ model 奥兰多魔术队想走马刺模式 David Robinson, Gregg Popovich, Jacque Vaughn, Orlando Magic, R.C. Buford, Rob Hennigan, Tim Duncan — posted by Josh Robbins |Orlando Sentinel on August, 1 2012 11:47 AM The exact details of the Orlando Magic’s long-range plan remain unclear. But whatever path the team follows, it will bear the imprint of the San Antonio Spurs’ model. 奥兰多魔术队的长期规划到底长怎样,目前还看不太出来。不过,不论他们走什麽 路线,一定都会有马刺模式的影子。 This past offseason, the Magic hired two products of the Spurs’ wildly prolific tree, and Magic executives have said publicly that they hope to replicate the Spurs’ success. 这个休季期间,魔术一连两次人事地震,新官上任的都系出人才济济的马刺团队。 连魔术高层也公开表示,他们就是希望能复制马刺的成功。 On June 20, the Magic hired Rob Hennigan as their new general manager. Hennigan started his post-college career as a Spurs intern in 2004 and spent a total of four seasons with the organization, ending his tenure in 2007-08 as the team’s director of basketball operations. From there, Hennigan spent four seasons with the Oklahoma City Thunder, whose basketball-operations department is headed by another former Spurs executive, Sam Presti. 今年六月二十日,魔术延揽 Rob Hennigan 来当新任总管。Hennigan 2004年大学毕业後 进马刺实习,2007-8 当到了马刺篮球事务部的主管。当了四年马刺人後,又被前马刺副 总管,时任雷霆队篮球事务部头儿的 Sam Presti 挖走,在雷霆也待了四年。 On Saturday, the Magic hired Jacque Vaughn as their new coach. Vaughn spent the last three seasons of his playing career in San Antonio and spent the last two seasons as an assistant coach, apprenticing under Gregg Popovich. 上礼拜六,魔术又礼聘 Jacque Vaughn 担任总教头。Vaughn 在马刺渡过了球员生涯的 最後三年,接着任职助理教练,在 Pop 手下当了两年学徒。 You could argue that the true stars of Vaughn’s introductory news conference Monday were Popovich and the franchise Popovich helped build. 你可以说,Vaughn 在魔术走马上任的记者会上,最吸引人的明星不是 Vaughn,而是 Pop 和他帮忙打造的马刺队。 “Obviously,” Magic CEO Alex Martins said, “when you talk about the San Antonio Spurs, there are not many better in terms of the number of championships that they’ve won.” 魔术 CEO Alex Martins 说道:「很明显的,当你讲到马刺,没几个球队赢得过他们, 以冠军戒指的数量来说。」 Vaughn named Popovich as one of the three coaches who have influenced him most. Vaughn 本人则说 Pop 是影响他最大的三个教练之一。 “The last five out of six years, I’ve been around a gentleman who just goes by the name of ‘Pop,’ ” Vaughn said. “I’ve emulated him. I’ve taken notes. I’ve shared an office. He’s been unbelievable to me to allow me to be around his brilliance, and for that, I thank him tremendously.” 「过去五年来,我跟一个名唤 Pop 的天才长相左右,」Vaughn 表示:「我能学的都 学了,我抄了无数笔记,我跟他共同管理一个办公室。他对我的好真的没话说,让我 这样跟随他,向他学习。光凭这点,我就不知该怎麽谢他。」 The Magic would love to emulate the Spurs’ success. 魔术当然想藉这些前马刺人,来重现马刺的成功。 San Antonio is one of the smallest markets in the NBA, and yet the Spurs still have managed to win four league titles since 1998-99. 虽然圣安东尼奥是NBA里数一数二的小市场,但是,1998-99 季以来,马刺却以小 搏大,赢了四次的总冠军。 In June, shortly after the Magic hired Hennigan, I asked Spurs general manager R.C. Buford to explain how they’ve maintained that success. 六月,就在魔术挖角 Hennigan 後,我请马刺总管 R.C. Buford 说明一下他们的成功 之道。 “You get Tim Duncan and David Robinson and don’t screw it up,” he initially answered. 「当你有了 Tim Duncan 和 David Robinson,要搞砸也很难好吗。」他的第一反应。 He meant it only half-jokingly. 当然这只是他半开玩笑的说法。 The Spurs were downright lucky to win the 1987 and the 1997 draft lotteries and win the rights to select Robinson and Duncan, respectively, first overall. Robinson and Duncan are the rarest of superstars: true team-first guys. 没错,马刺能在 1987, 1997 这两年拿到乐透签,还两年都中头奖,分别以第一顺位选来 Robison 跟 Duncan 是幸运到不行。更别说这两位状元是联盟中罕见,乐意以球队为重的 超级球星。 But Buford’s initial comment also didn’t do the Spurs justice. 但是,Buford 第一时间的幸运说,似乎也不尽然能够解释马刺的成功。 Although Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker rightly are hailed as stars now, it’s easy to forget that they were not lottery picks. 现在看来鬼切和跑车是闪亮亮的大明星了,但是很抱歉,这两位当年都不在选秀的前 十四顺位。 The Spurs selected Ginobili 57th overall in the 1999 draft. The Spurs selected Parker 28th overall in the 2001 draft. 马刺在 1999 年以第一轮 57 顺位迎来鬼切。在 2001 年以第一轮 28 顺位选进跑车。 San Antonio deserves credit for scouting Ginobili and Parker, for evaluating them correctly and then for developing them into the players they’ve become. 我想马刺选才、养兵的功力值得喝采。他们准确地评估了鬼切和跑车的潜力,而且选进 来後,也不留余力,把他们栽培成现在的样貌。 I asked Buford to describe the Spurs’ approach further. 我请 Buford 再说说马刺的撇步、眉角在哪。 “It’s being around people who want to be part of something bigger than themselves, who are committed to working diligently together, and no matter what, there’s always a talent level that has to happen,” he answered. “But I think that also the character of the individual is reflected in the character of the team.” 「眉角就是,你要选那种愿意成全球队的人,要选那种愿意和队友一起打拼的人。而且 不论如何,天份还是不可或缺的要素。」他答道。「但我们一样看重球员的个性,因为 球员的个性反映出球队的特性。」 Hennigan and Vaughn each have used Buford’s phrase to describe the players they’re seeking: “people who want to be part of something bigger than themselves.” Hennigan 和 Vaughn 两位也说了和 Buford 类似的话来描述他们在找的球员:「愿意 成全球队的人。」 To follow the Spurs’ model, the Magic will have to build through the draft. 要走马刺的自己选人自己养的模式,魔术得从选秀做起。 They’ll have to make the most of all of their picks, but they likely will need some luck in the lottery. 魔术得好好利用手上的签,但想拿乐透签他们还需要一点运气。 This is why the Magic might win long-term if they lose big in the short-term. 这就是为什麽,短期之内大输特输,长期来看对魔术是大有好处的。 Remember, the Spurs went 28-54 in the season before they drafted Robinson and 20-62 in the season before they drafted Duncan. 别忘了,马刺选来大罗的前一季,战绩是恐怖的 28胜 54负;选进石佛之前,战绩更是 联盟吊车尾的 20胜 62负。 Again, the details of the Magic’s long-term strategy remain unclear. 不过,我再次强调,魔术的长期策略,目前还不明确。 The franchise could speed up a rebuilding process by paring payroll and by signing a marquee free agent who would embrace a team-first philosophy. 要快速重建的话,他们可以把薪资空间清一清,好好在自由市场挑个能以球队为重 的大牌。 Because of Florida’s warm weather and lack of a state income tax, the Magic have succeeded in landing free agents before — and they almost succeeded in prying Duncan out of San Antonio as a free agent in 2000. 因为佛罗里达温暖宜人,又不用缴州税,魔术曾获得不少自由球员的青睐。在 2000 年 时,更差点就成功引来当时身为自由球员的石佛。 In the meantime, the Magic will stress player development. 同时,魔术也会着重球员的发展。 This past season, Popovich’s coaching staff featured four assistant coaches, including Vaughn, who did the game-planning and helped run practices. Two other assistant coaches focused more on player development. 过去这个球季,Pop 教练团有四位助理教练,包括 Vaughn 在内,他们拟定比赛计划、 帮忙球队练习。另外还有两位助理教练,专门负责个别球员的养成。 Vaughn’s coaching staff could follow a similar model. Vaughn 教练的团队也可以走类似的模式。 “Development will be a huge component of what we do here,” Vaughn said. “I think San Antonio has done a good job of capitalizing on that part of the market. They’ve taken guys drafted 50th and drafted in the second round and created spots for guys that were on the summer-league team and ended up being integral parts of the team. 「我在魔术的任务中,有一点很重要,就是好好养人,」Vaughn 说道:「我想马刺在这 块市场做得相当成功。他们可能只有五十顺位的签,但把人从第二轮选进来後,马刺会 帮这些人在夏季联盟找到他能发挥的位子,这样的用心练兵之下,这些人往往成了马刺 的中坚份子。」 “So for us I’m going to be a huge believer in development, and I’ll have guys on the staff that their focus will be development. But we all will touch the players every single day. I’m a huge believer in that.” 「所以来到魔术,我绝对会好好培养球员。我会找人专责这块,而且教练团其他人成员 也会每天关心这些球员的成长。我是真心相信,自己养出想要的球员,是辛苦但正确之 道。」 Spoken like a true descendent of the San Antonio Spurs tree. 各位观众,魔术的新任总教练杰克冯,深黯养兵之道的马刺出品。 -- 此文一出,nba.com 的 John Schuhmann 有不同看法。 http://0rz.tw/crpS3 Magic Want to be the Spurs (节录) If it’s not the Spurs, teams want to emulate the Oklahoma City Thunder model, which, of course, was put together by another guy — Sam Presti — who was hired out of San Antonio years ago. The problem with those plans is that there is only one Tim Duncan. There is only one Kevin Durant. And really, there is only one Gregg Popovich. 这学的不是只马刺,也是近年来由 Sam Presti 运筹帷幄的雷霆模式(虽然 Sam 也 是雷霆从马刺挖角来的人。)问题在於,世界上只有一个石佛。世界上只有一个 KD。 而且,我说真的,这世界上只有一个波波维奇。 But you can’t just wait for another Duncan or Durant to come along. You have to make the most of the hand you’re dealt and formulate your own plan. Each of the last five championships have been won by teams (the Celtics, Lakers, Mavs and Heat) that went down different paths than the Spurs or Thunder did. 你不能等着下一个 Duncan 或 Durant 从天上掉下来。你得就手上现有的牌拟定自己 的一套战略。过去五年的总冠军(超塞,湖人,小牛,和热火)哪一个不是走出了自 己一条路,他们有把刺雷那套照单全收吗? If you’re looking three or four years ahead, there’s nothing on the current Magic roster worth building around, unless No. 19 pick Andrew Nicholson pans out. Hennigan can look to get prospects and picks in a Dwight Howard trade, but there aren’t any five-star prospects out there to acquire, and any picks they receive won’t be very high if they’re coming from a team that just got the three-time DPOY. 把眼光放远在四、五年之後,魔术队里没有可以当基石的人,除非 19顺位的 Andrew Nicholson 打出来。Hennigan 可以期望魔兽交易能换来球队的未来的核心和选秀权, 可是放眼望去,现在市场上五星级的大牌早被人追走了,而且一个只得过三次 DPOY 的魔兽,换来的权秀权也不会有多高顺位。 So good luck, Orlando. Really, no matter how well the Magic plan, it’s going to take a lot of luck to get back to The Finals, given the position they’re currently in. 所以,奥兰多,祝你好运,真的。不管魔术的如意算盘打得再精,照目前的状况看来, 除非能有马刺般无敌的好运道,他们很难重返争冠之列。 -- 魔术前景,有人看好马刺出品,有人看衰魔兽人生。 --



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1F:推 RonaldPan :推pop 08/03 21:09
2F:推 noahlin :差太多了 八字没一撇 08/03 21:10
3F:推 ksaon :光是制服组就差多了...更何况教练跟球员.. 08/03 21:19
4F:推 tliu223 :首先要从杠杠开始(误 08/03 21:25
5F:推 easycompany :"当你有了TD和大罗,要搞砸也很难好吗" 08/03 21:33
6F:→ easycompany :但有只球队有过大欧和魔兽,却都搞砸了 08/03 21:33
7F:推 thindust :有了TD可以保证是强队 但能拿那麽多冠军也要靠制服组 08/03 21:40
8F:→ thindust :合理价码签下manu parker和其他绿叶 还有波波 08/03 21:41
9F:推 ponkd :马刺其实高顺位养坏了好几个,反而後面的选秀反而养 08/03 21:45
10F:→ ponkd :的不错。XD 08/03 21:45
11F:推 a88019 :借转被抄袭板 08/03 22:17
a88019:转录至看板 Spurs 08/03 22:17
12F:推 IAmaMouse :马刺系统逐渐开枝散叶... 08/03 22:32
13F:嘘 Jefa910 :好中锋留不住 乾脆用乐透系统好了 08/03 22:41
14F:推 rex0423 :魔术以为有马刺制服组 就为自动加忠诚度吗 08/03 22:44
15F:推 evilraistlin:做梦去吧 你们的制服组差人家十万八千里... 08/03 22:58
16F:推 force5566 :马刺有忠诚TD,魔术只有忠诚兽 08/04 00:12
17F:推 szuta :愿意成全球队的人... DH12表示遗憾 08/04 00:19
18F:推 iecdalu :魔术也算超好运了 抽到三次状元签 只可惜... 08/04 01:31
19F:→ c8c812345678:借转魔术队感恩! 08/04 02:06



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