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※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1ER2FS8h ] 作者: sampsonlu919 (父亲,愿你安息) 看板: NBA 标题: [新闻] ESPN分析30支球队老板立场 鹰派超过鸽派 时间: Sun Sep 11 10:58:33 2011 网址来源:http://www.espnstar.com.tw/news/basketball/2011/0910/214570.htm 内容:ESPN分析30支球队老板立场 鹰派超过鸽派 从劳资谈判到今天的进程来看,老板们似乎是非常团结的,在硬性薪资总和和缩减球员 薪水方面,老板们的意见是高度一致的。但实际上,据ESPN消息,在老板们内部,对待 球员们的态度也是有所不同的。具体来说,他们可以分为鹰派和鸽派两种。 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NBA owners' bargaining positions http://es.pn/pbAFd0 September, 9, 2011 By Henry Abbott ESPN.com 塞尔提克老板:格罗斯贝克 Wyc Grousbeck,鹰派 But it's complicated. The Celtics are due for a fantastic, new media deal, which will be one of the best in the league. Once that's official, revenues will be strong, and then the focus may shift to the reality that this roster has a short window. With short-term TV money and a strong roster, worries are more about years from now -- the owners' long offers are tailor-made to that. 因为塞尔提克的阵容存在严重的老化问题,这有可能导致他们在未来两三年内实力下降 迅速。而偏偏,塞尔提克和波士顿当地电视台的合约也快要到期。所以,格罗斯维克对 篮球相关收入分成的立场十分坚定。 夏洛特山猫:乔丹 Michael Jordan,鹰派 Jordan is in something of a pickle. As a player he was strongly in favor of high player salaries. As an owner in a small market, he needs to pay players very little without being made to look cheap. A hard cap would be great for him. 乔丹是个非常矛盾的综合体,从他的背景来说,他非常理解球员们的处境。如果有可能 ,他不会舍不得给球员们开出高薪。不过,乔丹现在是老板,而且所在的夏洛特是个 绝对的小球市,这都要求他必须在薪资上錎铢必究,这直接导致乔丹对硬性薪资总和 有强烈的慾望。 达拉斯小牛:库班 Mark Cuban,鹰派 Cuban's position is that he'll spend as much as the league will allow him to spend, so he would very much like it if spending the max didn't put him so deep in the red. 库班对硬性薪资总和并没有太强烈的兴趣,只要联盟允许,他不介意给球员开出高薪。 Cuban is against aggressive revenue sharing. Dallas is a good market, and the Mavericks have good revenue, but the team is not profitable so Cuban may be leery of writing checks to other owners. 不过,库班对现有的收入分成体系不满,达拉斯的球市不错,小牛的赢利能力也不错。 但要用小牛的收入去补贴其他球队,这是库班不愿意的。 休士顿火箭:亚历山大 Leslie Alexander,鸽派 The Rockets have an excellent TV deal and are very well run -- they don't have the same pressure other teams have to change the status quo. 火箭的本地电视转播合约签的非常漂亮,他们的财政状况也相当良好,其他球队承受 的经济压力对火箭来说并不存在。 the Rockets are doing just fine, thank you very much, and don't need big changes to the status quo. 所以,在劳资谈判中,亚历山大一直表现的很有容忍度。 洛杉矶湖人:巴斯 Jerry Buss,鸽派 The Lakers have good revenues that they'd like to keep collecting. Jerry Buss is close to David Stern, and likely to support any deal the league is pushing. 湖人的财政状况非常棒,巴斯对现有的劳资协议也没有任何不满情绪。从媒体报导 来看,湖人方面对每年支付给球员们的薪水也并不是十分计较。所以,巴斯对球员们 的态度还比较温和。只不过,因为巴斯和史腾(David Stern)的关系非常密切,所以 湖人出於人情关系可能会支持史腾的一些严苛要求。 迈阿密热火:阿里森 Micky Arison,鸽派 Arison is a respected moderate among owners, and is liable to be influential. This time around, business is looking up as the clock ticks on a team in its championship window, so he'd like to play. 对阿里森来说,在现行的劳资协议下,他打造了一个人人艳羡的三巨头军团。而相反, 在新的劳资协议出炉後,阿里森能否保留三巨头倒成了一个疑问。所以,在依靠三巨头 夺冠之前,阿里森对现在的劳资协议并没有什麽意见,他的态度也是可以理解的宽容。 华盛顿巫师:李昂西斯 Ted Leonsis,鹰派 Leonsis' experience in the NHL is said to have convinced him of the power of hard negotiating. And he recently paid a heck of a lot of money for a team that hasn't been good lately. 李昂西斯同时也是NHL球队华盛顿首都队的老板,他在NHL劳资谈判中学到的就是态度 一定要强硬。而且,从他最近投入到球队中的资金和收入来看,并不是很理想。可想 而知,李昂西斯在NBA劳资谈判中的立场一定是强硬的。 纽约尼克:多兰 James Dolan,鸽派 For all the jokes about Dolan's leadership in basketball, his Knicks are a lucrative, fine-tuned business. Not to mention, they have a roster that's generating excitement. On the other hand, they have one year left before potentially having the cap space to bring in another big name -- a 2012 return would be OK. 虽然媒体对多兰多有调侃,但尼克的运营状况实际上非常良好,他们现在的阵容和薪资 结构都比较理想。 Stern insists the big market owners are united in favoring more revenue sharing. But how much? The Knicks trail only the Lakers as likely payers. 所以,虽然史腾再三强调大都市的球队一定要团结,但多兰可能不会强力支持。 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 心得或短评: 以下补充其他球队老板的立场 鹰派- 克里夫兰骑士:Dan Gilbert 丹佛金块:Stan Kroenke 底特律活塞:Tom Gores 曼菲斯灰熊:Michael Heisley 密尔瓦基公鹿:Herb Kohl 明尼苏达灰狼:Glen Taylor 费城76人:Josh Harris 凤凰城太阳:Robert Sarver 波特兰拓荒者:Paul Allen 沙加缅度国王:Joe and Gavin Maloof 圣安东尼奥马刺:Peter Holt 多伦多暴龙:Larry Tanenbaum 犹他爵士:Greg Miller 鸽派- 金州勇士:Joe Lacob, Peter Guber 印第安纳溜马:Herb Simon 洛杉矶快艇:Donald Sterling 纽泽西篮网:Mikhail Prokhorov 纽奥良黄蜂:NBA 奥克拉荷马雷霆:Clay Bennett 奥兰多魔术:Richard DeVos 芝加哥公牛:Jerry Reinsdorf 老鹰对新老板Alex Meruelo则是Abbott目前唯一看不出立场的人 --



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1F:推 kaiyue :鹰爪门站出来 09/11 10:59
2F:推 gjo3x06 :莺歌XD 09/11 11:01
3F:推 ripmelo :是按照态度来分莺歌两派吗? 09/11 11:01
4F:推 tn00706223 :爪爪 ̄□ ̄爪爪 09/11 11:03
5F:推 VASTSKY :老鹰队老板:你看不出我是老鹰还是鸽子?! 09/11 11:07
6F:推 NightElf :鸽派还蛮多有赚钱的 09/11 11:11
7F:推 hancke :老乔换了位子就换了脑袋 亏他以前也吃过老板小气的亏 09/11 11:14
8F:→ hancke :所以乡民也别抱怨老板给22K 等你当了老板一样给22K 09/11 11:15
9F:推 cjxx :拓荒者竟然是鹰派 还以为他应该是鸽派 09/11 11:18
10F:推 bestteam :为什麽黄蜂是鸽派 09/11 11:23
11F:→ NightElf :因为黄蜂老板是NBA ... 09/11 11:25
12F:推 NewPacers :溜马票房惨澹 Herb Simon还当鸽派真是好人 09/11 11:27
13F:推 s4511981 :溜马跟快艇真的出乎我的意料…… 09/11 11:46
14F:推 BlGP :借转节能减碳版 09/11 11:56
BlGP:转录至看板 UTAH-JAZZ 09/11 11:56
15F:推 fanrei :因为快艇现在就赚钱了 09/11 11:57
16F:推 nuturewind :抓到了!惯老板^0^ 09/11 12:16
17F:推 neos042 :洛杉矶快艇-鸽派XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/11 12:27
18F:→ wurenben :快艇是经营绩效算不错的球队了 09/11 12:30
19F:→ SlamKai :小气巴拉的快艇老板竟是鸽派... 09/11 12:36
20F:推 rbking21 :魔术果然是鸽派...连Otis都能容忍的圣人 09/11 12:55
21F:→ rbking21 :借转好人板 09/11 12:57
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22F:→ rbking21:有人很意外吗?0.0 09/11 12:57
23F:→ rbking21:不过其实我不大懂球对的经营和收入状况@@ 只知道花很凶 09/11 13:01
24F:→ rbking21:来钓强者好了XD 09/11 13:01
25F:推 y1027330:哈哈 rbking21 :魔术果然是鸽派...连Otis都能容忍的圣人 09/11 15:14
26F:推 kirchize:其实我们是虾派.........跟鸡派........ 09/11 16:43
27F:推 david2266798:虾排 鸡排~ 09/12 00:11
28F:→ rbking21:看完推文莫名其妙地饿了... 09/12 10:40
29F:推 shananx:推~ 伟大的老板~ 09/14 00:34







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