作者y1027330 (leon)
看板Orl-Magic
标题Otis trying to get Zach Randolph?
时间Tue Feb 15 17:57:56 2011
RealGM上 再讨论的
The biggest decisions next week before the trade deadline quietly have to be
with Memphis as much as Denver. There seems almost no way with Marc Gasol
also up for a new deal the Grizzlies will resign Zach Randolph. Trade him
now? The Magic reportedly would be ready to make a huge offer of players and
picks. But then maybe the Grizzlies don’t make the playoffs, which the owner
has guaranteed as Randolph is leading the team at 20.2 points and 13.2
rebounds.
http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_110214.html
国外的乡民在讨论
Jrich+Bass <-> OJ没有+软豆腐...之类的
大家看看就好
机会应该不大
有点长 但我觉得这个人的说的蛮有道理:
A trade for Z-Bo makes sense for many reasons. First, if we could bring in
Mayo and Zbo for J-rich and Bass it would be great for both teams. Orlando
would get Zbo for the rest of the year and a young 2 guard to take over that
spot and keep JJ as a player coming off the bench. Memphis would get J-rich
who would fill their 2 guard needs, as well as be a cheaper option to keep
this offseason. They also get a good, young, cheap PF to replace Z-bo. Since
they are not going to resign Z-bo, they get a replacement at a cheaper rate.
They can then resign Gasol and still have money to upgrade at the two or
other spots if they cannot resign J-rich. However, you need to look past the
immediate. After this season Z-bo will recieve a max contract from some team.
That is huge because if the magic do not want to resign him (sort of like
there is already talk that they wont resign J-rich if they do not win a
championship this year) they can work out a sign and trade (provided it is
still allowed in the new CBA) which could bring in a large trade exception
and a first rounder. These pieces can be huge assets to use next year to
bring in a different star. Imagine being able to package Jameer (expiring), a
couple first rounders, and a huge TPE, JJ or Anderson, which would all be
possible with this move, for a player like Paul or Williams. It's like chess,
in order for the magic to get that second superstar, they need to think a few
moves ahead. Z-Bo could very well be the key to getting the assets we need to
make that possible.
Also, if Z-bo did leave this offseason, and we traded only J-rich and Bass,
We would open PT for Clark next season as the backup 4, As we saw against the
lakers, with Bass and Anderson both healthy, Clark's minutes dropped to 10.
For all you saying we can do the same with J-rich, you are wrong. First, he
is not a max player this year or next. Therefore, the TPE we could get back
in a sign and trade, would not be a large and teams would not be willing to
give up a first rounder in that deal either.
Its just my opinion, but along with trying to win a title, we also have to
try to build up as many assets as possible to bring in a superstar to play
alongside howard. Z-bo provides a better opportunity to collect those assets
than J-rich and that is why, if possible Otis should make this deal.
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1F:推 KKB:灰熊有机会进季後赛,除非又狂输 不然怎可能丢软豆腐 02/15 18:19
2F:推 garytony1:抢这麽大?? 不过灰熊应该不续约软豆腐是真的 02/15 18:33
3F:→ garytony1:一句话 不期不代 02/15 18:34
4F:推 cyber417:可以不要丢J-Rich吗?...T^T 02/15 18:37
5F:→ DDDDing:反正他们也不打算续约Z-BO 交易也不易外 02/15 18:40
6F:→ DDDDing:不过他正在高点 = =+ 要抢可能不太容易 02/15 18:40
7F:推 asdf922:可以把J-Rich换成Q-Rich吗? 02/15 19:00
8F:推 t22437953:战术没变的话 真的不期不待 02/15 19:30
9F:推 snakebite:之前就传过的...现在这样换好不好其实都很难说了 02/15 19:53
10F:推 qhaabk:有DH是联盟最强内线之一 // 有DH和ZR是联盟最强内线 02/15 20:20
11F:推 patek:软豆腐约不是超贵的?两千万? 02/15 20:22
12F:推 qhaabk:软豆腐今年到期 明年再签个两三年(魔术有钱就好) 02/15 20:24
13F:推 garytony1:我有一种软豆腐续约高价後 就变成名牌的感觉 02/15 20:24
14F:→ qhaabk:软豆腐季後赛打不好就不签或是打对折重签 02/15 20:25
15F:→ qhaabk:快给魔兽一个内线 魔术的射手多 不差绿茶 板凳也还一杯冰着 02/15 20:27
16F:→ y1027330:魔术的2号真的不用太强 反正大范都只剩当三分炮塔 02/15 20:33
17F:→ y1027330:但我现在很爱JRICH 02/15 20:46
18F:推 garytony1:大家都爱啊 不过明年他有很大机会离开魔术 因为除了中产 02/15 20:48
19F:→ garytony1:最好操作就只剩下J Rich 02/15 20:49
20F:推 spluto:光就三分来看O.J也可以补上J-Rich的损失 02/15 20:50
21F:→ kingwei520:妈的咧这大赚啊 快点换 02/15 21:14
22F:→ kingwei520:这是Otis漂白的好机会啊 02/15 21:15
23F:推 clkdtm32:OJ怎麽可能比JRICH好.... 02/15 21:17
24F:推 kingwei520:这交易关键在软豆啊 软豆来 我们禁区猛到爆 02/15 21:19
25F:推 matt1018:只看最後还以为是塞队那软豆 原来是软豆腐 可凶狠了禁区 02/15 21:36
26F:推 kingwei520:这交易如果成 2号就让阿Q和JJ打就好了 02/15 21:39
27F:→ kingwei520:OJ可以打到SF吗? 02/15 21:40
28F:→ y1027330:阿Q打三号比较实在 02/15 21:42
29F:→ y1027330:要是成功的话 OJ跟JJ打二号吧 三号给HEDO跟克拉克 OR 阿Q 02/15 21:43
30F:推 kingwei520:其实我们三号有火枪了 JJ OJ QQ去抢2号 02/15 21:43
31F:→ y1027330:其实这样阵容感觉很猛耶 02/15 22:06
32F:→ y1027330:後场把尼神拉去打替补 ARENAS+OJ+HEDO+软豆腐+魔兽 02/15 22:07
33F:→ y1027330:替补 尼神+JJ+QQ+克拉克/小安 这内线超威猛 02/15 22:08
34F:→ y1027330:外围的天分感觉也不错 而且OJ的防守很像也不烂 02/15 22:08
35F:→ y1027330:内线两个20/10 打法一软一硬 候补还有小安跟克拉克不错 02/15 22:09
※ 编辑: y1027330 来自: 114.32.184.86 (02/15 22:36)
36F:→ garytony1:灰熊想打季後赛应该不会放软豆腐吧 他们後场还蛮强的 02/15 22:43
37F:→ garytony1:Gasol+Bass 一软一矮进居优势瞬间减一半 02/15 22:44
38F:→ y1027330:灰熊明年可能签不下软豆腐 得到便宜的PF 只能这样想了= = 02/15 22:45
39F:推 auoto:以薪资空间卡这麽死 JRich留不下来机会很大 能换也不错 02/15 22:53
40F:→ y1027330:JRICH跟软豆腐都是到期约 只剩软豆腐的到期约可以是续签 02/15 22:54
41F:→ y1027330:顶级合约 02/15 22:54
42F:推 garytony1:先签後换不知道能不能有大鱼 02/15 23:00
43F:→ y1027330:之前灰熊都用Pau Gasol换K.Brown跟Marc Gaso还有什麽不可 02/15 23:53
44F:→ y1027330:能= ='' 02/15 23:53
45F:推 bahamutuh:楼上那个不是交易是抢劫 02/16 00:01
46F:→ spluto:老实说K.Brown当年的到期约跟Marc Gaso这种潜力新秀的确很 02/16 06:27
47F:→ spluto:有吸引力 魔术去哪找潜力跟人家换... 02/16 06:27
48F:推 jjredick07:如果是软豆腐+oj 换 绿茶+Bass 我想灰雄会在凹个新秀也 02/16 10:17
49F:→ jjredick07:说不定 而且灰熊一定很想顺便逼人吃掉他们练不起来的新 02/16 10:18
50F:→ jjredick07:人中锋 02/16 10:18
51F:推 KKB:别人当年是重建 今年又不重建 都续大约gay了 不可能换 02/16 10:29
52F:→ y1027330:灰熊今年结束没有打算签回软豆腐 所以换个便宜的BASS 02/16 12:44
53F:→ y1027330:这也是有可能的 不过这是对魔术来说的说法拉 02/16 12:45
54F:→ y1027330:灰熊也是可以拼今年拉= ='' 02/16 12:45
55F:→ y1027330:要是还能A到 Thabeet 那当然更好 连替补C一起补 02/16 12:48
56F:→ y1027330:不过这就太抢劫了 02/16 12:48
57F:→ y1027330:灰熊现在积极想交易 Thabeet 再来是OJ 02/16 12:49
58F:→ hunight:Thabeet魔术应该养不起来 02/16 13:45
59F:→ hunight:他现在应该比锅贴刚来美国时还难养 02/16 13:45
60F:推 MOJS:到期约绿茶换豆腐, Bass换没有..灰熊何必呢= = 02/16 20:22
61F:推 spluto:灰熊是说想要个标准的SG 所以绿茶算是她们想要的人 况且OJ 02/17 08:01
62F:→ spluto:他们几乎没在用 问题只在於他们有多看中软豆腐了 02/17 08:01
63F:→ garytony1:目前OJ只是这季出了状况 实力是有的 拆成2比来看 02/17 09:06
64F:→ garytony1:绿茶换软豆腐保证我们抢 软豆腐现在至高点 20 10的数据 02/17 09:06
65F:→ garytony1:Bass换OJ 也会是我们抢 毕竟OJ前2季也是有着15分以上的 02/17 09:07
66F:→ garytony1:能力 基本上除非我们还要吃他们一张滥约 我们贴其他球员 02/17 09:07
67F:→ garytony1:否则只有软豆腐OJ换绿茶Bass保证是抢钱交易无误 02/17 09:08
68F:推 spluto:怎麽交易都会有一方 怎麽可能有完全平等的交易... 02/17 09:14
69F:→ spluto:只要双方都拿到需要的球员对双方都算好交易 02/17 09:15
70F:→ garytony1:我认为灰雄不需要我们的包裹 反正要软豆腐绿茶的交易 02/17 09:16
71F:→ garytony1:他大可以不必这季就交易 别忘了他们有机会抢季後门票 02/17 09:17
72F:→ y1027330:所以开始希望灰熊战机变烂 不过很像来不及了= = 02/17 09:18
73F:→ garytony1:软豆腐变成Bass 禁区就变成小Gasoft&Bass 软糖禁区?? 02/17 09:18
74F:→ spluto:当然我也不觉得他们会这样换 不过也不是不可能 02/17 09:19
75F:→ garytony1:绿茶也许是个战力 不过对打季後赛的球队 前场损失大於後 02/17 09:19
76F:→ garytony1:场 实力保证消弱 况且灰熊後场已经够猛了 02/17 09:20
77F:→ spluto:他们自己说想要个标准SG 如果不想花大钱留软豆腐 有点机会 02/17 09:20
78F:→ hunight:灰熊内线还有Arthur 他的潜力比Bass好两级不只 02/17 09:54
79F:→ garytony1:Bass就这样了 在强队还是只能打替补 感觉定型了 02/17 10:18
80F:推 MOJS:不想花大钱留软豆腐换回来绿茶..你要不要续约..还不是花钱 02/17 22:04
81F:→ MOJS:要省钱, 就放着到期, 想拿回来一点东西又想省钱也不会换绿茶. 02/17 22:05
82F:→ MOJS:以今天的新闻来看没有就可以换到他们想要的SG了.. 02/17 22:06
83F:→ MOJS:当然比不上绿茶那麽好, 但是怎麽看都灰熊亏.. 02/17 22:07
84F:→ y1027330:这当然是对魔术有利的交易 所以我们才会这麽爽= = 02/17 23:15
85F:→ y1027330:另外绿茶的续约会比较便宜一点啦 02/17 23:18
86F:→ y1027330:可能绿茶+BASS的钱=软豆腐的钱 这样也是捕到两个位置拉 02/17 23:19