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标题[闲聊] Who's Better:Hedo or Rashard?
时间Sat Sep 26 01:08:33 2009
蛮有趣的话题
NBA / Sep 22, 2009 / 10:00 am
http://dimemag.com/2009/09/whos-better-hedo-turkoglu-or-rashard-lewis/
Who’s Better: Hedo Turkoglu or Rashard Lewis?
By Dime Magazine
Hedo in T-Dot
We argue. You decide.
HEDO TURKOGLU (by Ben York)
If I’m honest, I’m not a big fan of either Hedo or Rashard. In my humble
opinion, I think they are both a bit overpaid, overrated, and over-hyped.
However, when comparing the two in order to determine who is better, my money
is undoubtedly on Hedo.
老实说,我并非Hedo或Rashard的球迷。我的浅见是,他们两个都有点过於昂贵、被高估
、过分夸大。然而,当比较这两人时谁更好时,无疑的我会选Hedo。
During the playoff run for the Magic last year, he was the glue that
ultimately held the team together. Rashard would show up for one game, then
be completely absent the next. Dwight Howard was getting double and
triple-teamed in the post, Jameer Nelson was hurt, and the rest of the team
was inconsistent at best. This was a time when we really were able to see how
versatile of a player Hedo is, and his overall worth to a team. Hence, a
subsequent $53 million dollar deal to Toronto…
在上季魔术的季後赛之旅,他是最终凝聚团队战力的要角。Rashard却可能一场大爆发、
下一场就隐形。魔兽在低位被双人包夹或者三夹,尼二婶又受伤,其余的队员充其量也
不过是不协调的战力。然後这就是我们见证Hedo价值的时候了,还有他对於团队来说的重
要性。因此暴龙奉上了5千3百万交易他到多伦多。
Hedo’s career averages aren’t anything to write home about. But, then
again, neither are Rashard’s. Hedo boasts averages of about 12 points, 5
rebounds and 3 assists per game, while Rashard is good for about 17 points, 6
rebounds and 2 assists each night. Rashard is probably better statistically
(and will continue to be), but in this instance, the better player is
determined by versatility rather than sheer numbers.
Hedo的生涯平均并非令人惊奇的,但Rashard的生涯也不是。Hedo有着足以自夸的场均12
分5篮板3助攻,但Rashard有着更好的场均17分6篮板2助攻。
也许Rashard在技术统计上是更好的(将来可能也还会是如此),但在这个实例里,谁是更
好的球员这问题,取决於其场上是否能全能的贡献而非只是帐面上的数据。
Hedo’s ultimate value and worth lie in his ability to play multiple
positions on the floor and be just as effective at each. Quite simply, he has
a “basketball” mind; he knows when to take over, when to slow things down,
get his teammates involved, or just make the right play. Averaging about five
assists in the last two seasons for the Magic, it’s clear Hedo has grown as
a player and is becoming more complete.
Hedo最大的价值在於他能打许多个位置,并且在该位置上都能发挥影响力。简单来说,他
有打篮球的头脑。他知道何时该接管比赛,何时该慢下节奏、让他的队友参与进攻、或者
仅是执行了正确的play。上赛季他在魔术平均约五助攻,很明显的他成长了,成为更趋近
完全的球员。
Rashard, however, is going the other way. His scoring average decreased the
last two seasons, along with his FG%, 3pt%, FT%, steals, and he’s seen an
increase in the number of times he turns the ball over. Rashard is solely
looked at to score the ball and shoot well from the perimeter. While there’s
nothing wrong with that, Hedo can clearly do much more on the basketball
court to enhance his team.
Rashard,相反的,迥然相异於Hedo。他的平均得分在近两季减少了,还伴随着FG%、3pt%
、FT%、抄截等数据的下降,与失误的提升。Rashard他仅是专注於得分和外线投射,虽然
没有什麽不对,但Hedo在场上能做到更多事来提升球队。
The matchup problems he creates for opposing teams are almost unrivaled. His
increased ability to put the ball on the floor and drive to the basket has
defenders unable to play too close to him to prevent his shot. When he does
drive, he has a unique quickness and vision of the court for a man of his
size (6-10) and can find other stagnant players (cough…Rashard…cough) for
easy buckets.
他制造的对位问题对於敌队来说是难以匹敌的,他提升了他的运球与切入让对手无法太近
身来守他的跳投。他有着独一无二的速度和视野(对於一个6-10的长人来说) 并且能传给
等球的球员 (咳…就是你啦 Rashard …咳) 简单的得分。
Ultimately, what seals the deal for me in regards to Hedo, was Stan Van Gundy
’s reliance on him in the closing seconds of games (i.e. the ‘08/09
playoffs) as opposed to Rashard. Hedo used a myriad of ways to beat defenders
to get that last shot off, while Rashard was left standing in the corner,
waiting for someone else to make something happen so he could shoot.
最终,我对於Hedo所下的结论,来自於Stan Van Gundy最比赛最後几秒时对Hedo的依赖(
相对於Rashard来说)。Hedo有无数种方法来击败防守者投进关键一击,而Rashard只是被
晾在角落等球。
Hedo all the way.
所以Hedo完胜。
Raw Lew
Raw Lew
RASHARD LEWIS (by A. Burton)
…Written under the influence of Janet Jackson’s “Got ‘Til it’s Gone”…
As a Sonics fan, I never fully appreciated Rashard Lewis when he was in
Seattle. For a guy standing 6-10, built slender yet cut-up like a light
heavyweight, he played a little too soft for me. He loitered around the
three-point line more than I thought he should have, was never too
enthusiastic about defense or rebounding, and generally put the “small” in
small forward. Sure, Raw Lew had a 50-point game here and an All-Star
selection there, and he ultimately left Seattle as the franchise’s fourth
all-time leading scorer and Top-10 in almost every other major stat category
(No. 1 in threes), but he was never totally embraced by the fan base. So when
he left for Orlando in ’07 — overpaid in the eyes of most — Seattle wasn’
t crying over it; especially because we had Kevin Durant (the updated version
of the skinny teenager we once had in Rashard) coming in to take his place.
做为一个超音速球迷,我从未欣赏过超音速时期的Rashard。一个6-10的大个子,却纤瘦
的像是轻重量级般滑稽,他的球风实在太软了。他太多时候都在三分线闲晃,完全没有防
守或抢篮板的热情,并且还打的比一般小前锋更外面。没错,Rashard拿过50分也入选过
全明星赛,他最终离开了西雅图,一个队史得分第四几乎所有数据都名列队史前十的招牌
球员(三分球是第一),但他从未完全被西雅图球迷认同接受。所以当她远走奥兰多,以我
看过Overpaid最多的天价加盟魔术。西雅图并没有为其哭泣;特别是我们有了Durant(新
版、加强版的Rashard)来带领球队,谁还理两千万咧。
Since then, I’ve realized what we had in Rashard. You only need one hand to
count the number of players 6-10 and up who can shoot the rock better than
Rashard (and Hedo Turkoglu isn’t on that list). He led the NBA in threes
last season with 220, and finished third the season before that. And while he
might not do it as much as you’d like, he can effectively create his own
shot off the dribble and score in the post. In Orlando’s run to the Finals,
Lewis consistently delivered in crunch time, hitting rally buckets,
game-winners and daggers throughout the playoffs.
自那以後,我了解到我们拥有过的Rashard。6-10以上的球员里比Rashard更会射的,你只
消一只手就数的完 (Hedo并没名列其上)。他是上季NBA三分球射最多的人(220球),进球
量则排第三。他的球风可能不是你喜好的那样,但他能有效率的创造他的跳投并且得分。
在魔术进军总冠军赛时,Lewis在关键时刻持续的射个不停,投进振奋人心的跳投、致胜
球,在整个季後赛里就像匕首般让对手芒刺在背。
Rashard has flaws, most visibly on defense and in the fact that he’s not a
go-to player. He also shoots too many threes. He’s not the one to initiate
an offense like Turkoglu, but will round that offense out into a lethal force
with his ability to score from outside, mid-range and in the paint. He’s a
specialist – a professional scorer and shooter.
Rashard有缺陷,最明显的是在防守上而事实上他也并非go to guy。他也投了太多三分
他并非像Turkoglu那样的进攻发动者,但他拥有致命的得分能力,从外线、中距离、或者
油漆区。他是个得分和跳投的专家。
At 30 years old — a seemingly young 30 compared to Hedo’s old 30 — Rashard
is coming off his most complete and accomplished pro season, and he doesn’t
show signs of slowing down. He averaged 17.7 points and 5.7 boards while
hitting 39 percent of his threes and 83 percent at the line – numbers he
then improved in the playoffs, putting up 19 points and 6.4 rebounds and
outperforming Turkoglu as a scorer, shooter and rebounder. Several teams have
a small forward who can run the offense; fewer have a power forward who can
stretch defenses and create mismatches like Rashard, who has been the
X-factor in Orlando’s success since his arrival.
30岁的Rashard,看起来是更为年轻的30岁相较於Hedo的。Rashard刚经历了最完整和成熟
的职业赛季,但他却没有丝毫变慢的迹象。他还是能以39%的三分命中率83%的罚球命中率
得到场均17分5.7篮板,在季後赛更近一步的拿下19分6.4篮板,做为一个得分手、射手
、篮板球员方面是优於Turkoglu的。很多球队的小前锋都能进攻,但少有大前锋能像
Rashard那样拉开防守范围并制造错位,自从他来到後这就成为了魔术赢球的X因子。
After all, there’s a reason Eastern Conference coaches chose Rashard for the
’09 All-Star Game, while Hedo was left at home.
东区教练会选Rashard进09全明星赛而非Hedo,终究不是没有原因的。
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※ 编辑: badprince 来自: 140.116.103.36 (09/26 02:03)
1F:推 c8c812345678:Hero的buzzer beat实在让人印象太深了 09/26 02:55
2F:→ c8c812345678:另外lewis的打法确实较单调些 期待新球季能够爆一下 09/26 02:56
3F:推 wildwest:我受不了Hedo的低命中率...(除了罚球)新赛季算是解脱了 09/26 04:10
4F:→ wildwest:祝福Hedo在多伦多也能出色发挥~ 09/26 04:11
5F:→ wildwest:走了Hedo来了更强势的Carter..Lewis数据会维持平盘吗? 09/26 04:13
6F:推 killer922:我觉得Hedo传导性>Lewis 他比较类似等球的射手 需要有 09/26 11:02
7F:→ killer922:人帮他穿针引线 不过下季还可期待二婶跟Carter给他的切 09/26 11:04
8F:→ killer922:传 效用应该也不差才是.....前提是他不能有一场没一场 09/26 11:04
9F:→ killer922:的暴发........ 09/26 11:04
10F:推 wildwest:我是觉得补了两个PF以後 Lewis更能常下低位单打对方SF 09/26 12:56
11F:→ wildwest:也许有助於他的发挥 09/26 12:58
12F:推 dabute:爆发这种事本来就是有一场没一场 不然就不叫爆发了 09/26 21:02
13F:→ dabute:维持平均数据就好了 09/26 21:02
14F:推 cyber417:感觉只要Lewis到SF 效应应该会高很多才对 真的很期待 09/26 21:52
15F:→ cyber417:Nelson和Cater 还期待一个人 Ryan Anderson 感觉应该会适 09/26 21:53
16F:→ cyber417:合魔术体系 09/26 21:54
17F:推 Reyyy:猫人卡特又出现了 09/26 23:38
18F:→ killer922:d大 我的意思就是他不要数据一下很高 一下又几乎消失... 09/27 09:12
19F:→ killer922:以他的身手应该更好才对...... 09/27 09:13
※ 编辑: badprince 来自: 140.116.103.36 (09/30 10:33)
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