作者gordianknot (curtis_chang)
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标题Re: [探索]活在当下与接纳
时间Sat Nov 26 08:40:13 2016
其实当下与活在当下是同义词,当下与真正的接纳也是同义词,事实上不存在接纳这回事
,因为「试着去接纳」本身就是一种排拒能量,排拒能量永远也不可能真正的接纳,好比
思维活动无法让思维完全的静止,因为思维是为了消化与解疑,而事实上你可以说思维活
动是为
了排拒「疑」,而试图介由排拒「疑」来让大脑回归平静,最後只会演变为一股停不下来
的能量,重复不断的mental loop, 只有当什麽时候大脑才会停下来呢?只有当疑大到大
脑无法负载或
者你不再扰动他时,大脑才会静止------这就好比接纳
你不可能接纳,除非你在当下,否则真正的接纳永远也不会发生,所以关键在於当下到底
是什麽,大部份人的接纳多半带有一种抗拒与不情愿,我自已也不例外!
有一篇文章谈到什麽叫不干预,也许对了解什麽叫接纳有点帮助,以下摘自Unfolding
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Hands Off Your Experience True Nature Says, “Hands Off!”
我们的大脑总是想方设法让我们变的更复杂,但是自性的教导却十分简单,它的精要就是
hands off 请勿拍打喂食,什麽都别做,完全停止一切想操纵自己的作为,停止干预你的
内在经验。
Our minds usually want to make things complicated, but the basic instruction o
f True Nature is quite simple. It says: "Hands Off!" That is the primary teach
ing. Don't do anything. Completely cease anything you are trying to do to your
self. Hands off your own experience.
人们理所当然的会怀疑臣服到底是什麽意思,因为hands off听起来很被动,如此任由事
态发展却又不采取任何行动.但是自性所教导我们的并非不采取任何行动,而是停止干预
内在升起的一切经验,这不是说当你饿时不该吃,也不是在暗示当有人攻击我们时也不该
回击.
People naturally wonder what that means, because "hands off" sounds like passi
vity, that we should just let everything happen to us and not take any action
in the world. But True Nature doesn't mean hands off the activities of your li
fe; it means hands off your experience. However, you experience yourself, what
ever arises in your awareness—that is to be left alone. That is not to say th
at when you are hungry, you shouldn't eat. And it isn't to suggest that if som
ebody is attacking you, you shouldn't defend yourself.
举个简单的例子.比如你咬了一口桃子,然後发现桃子是坏的.hands off的意思是,我
咬了桃子一口,体验坏桃子的滋味,所以我把桃子放下来,但是我并没有抗拒体验坏桃子
的味道.许多人误解hands off的意思,认为应该继续吃桃子,但是这不是它真正的意思
.当坏桃子的味道已在内在经验升起时,如果我试着趋散这份感觉,我就是在分裂我自已
,我便是在抗拒内在的经验.所以当我们说hands off 其实是在说停止干预内在升起的一
切经验.
I’ll give you a simple example. Let’s say that you take a bite of peach and
discover that it is rotten. What is the teaching? Hands Off! Hands off means t
hat I take a bite, I experience the rotten taste, so I put the peach down, but
I don’t put away my experience of the rotten taste. Many people misunderstan
d hands off, thinking it means that they should continue eating the peach. But
that’s not what it means. The rotten taste is already in my mouth. I already
have it as an inner sensation that is arising in my experience. If I try to p
ut that sensation away, I am dividing myself; I am saying no to something in m
y experience. So when we say, “hands off,” we mean hands off whatever arises
in our inner experience.
当我们吃到好吃的东西,我们会紧紧抓着不放。这时hands off的意思是,我享受食物的
味道但不试图加强或延长这份经验。而不是籍由戒除的方式来达到断除依附。它的诀窍在
於如实的体验,享受它的味道却不试图延长、改变、或排拒它!
Hands off also applies when the peach tastes wonderful. When we taste how good
it is, we sometimes want to hold on to that experience. Then hands off means
I eat the peach, and I enjoy it without trying to intensify the experience or
make it last longer. It does not mean that you make yourself stop eating peach
so you can practice nonattachment. The trick to hands off is that you enjoy t
he delicious peach as it is—without trying to hold on to it, without putting
away your feelings, and without having to put away the peach.
不管是好或坏,你的心都不试图操纵内在经验!
In the case of the rotten peach, you taste it and you put it away; with the de
licious peach you taste it and continue eating it—but in both instances, you
mind is not doing anything to manipulate your inner experience.
这是自性教会我们的,衪不试图改变衪自己,衪只是如实的展现事物本然的样子。而如实
便是我们所需要学会的。这也是内修的目的,自性并不会做出拣择,相反衪告诉我们不要
干预,不要催逼、操控自已,它告诉我们不要去管自已的内在经验。
That is what True Nature teaches us. It doesn’t do anything to itself. It jus
t is. So what we need to learn is how to be just like that. That is what the p
ractice is. True Nature doesn’t say, “Do this or do that,” Rather, it tells
us not to do things that interfere:” No pushing, don’t manipulate, that’s
not it.” Whenever we want to do something to ourselves, it tells us, “No, ha
nds off—leave your experience alone.”
练习臣服便是学习不管你自己,想像有一群人总是要求你做这个、做那个、这个不好应该
怎麽样才对!你会有什麽感受呢?你会想摆脱这些人的纠缠,不是吗?我们都不喜欢内在
经验被强迫,即便现实生活中你没有这样的朋友,但问题是像这样的一群人总是住在我们
的内心深处,他们的声音总是催逼着我们往某个方向前进!
So to practice is to learn how to leave yourself alone. Imagine you are with a
person or a group of people that is always telling you what to do: “Do this
… this is no good… you should change that… no, no, this is terrible; do it
the other way.” How would you feel? You would want to be free of them, right?
We naturally dislike coercion when it comes to our inner experience. Even if
you don’t have people like that in your life, the problem is that those peopl
e are always inside of you. Their voices keep trying to push you in one direct
ion or another.
如果我们一直在进行内修,这种超我的声音总试图让我们变得更好更有灵性,试着让自已
开悟,比如有天早上你试着打坐,如果你是为了达成某种状态而去打坐,那麽你便是在干
预,如果你只管坐,而不管其他的,那才是真的修行。
And if we have been doing inner practice, one of the more prominent voices is
always trying to make us better, more spiritual. We are trying to make ourselv
es enlightened. We are trying to squeeze ourselves into some kind of state. We
are trying to corral ourselves into a particular condition. So, let’s say yo
u sit down to meditate one morning. If you are sitting because you want to do
something to yourself to get someplace, then you are interfering. If you just
sit—that’s all—without doing anything, you are practicing.
From "Hands Off Your Experience," a chapter of "The Unfolding Now," segment ti
tled "True Nature Says Hands Off," ch. 2, pp. 21-23
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下面是题外话
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我所知道的当下有二种翻译,一种叫here
and now一种叫Presence(一种状态,存在) , 而能照破所有烦恼的叫Presence, here and
now
则是单纯的把awareness带到此时此地而不论个人的awareness穿透力如何,所以它所揭露
的真相是渐近式的,也就是原本你以为问题是A最後发觉原来B才是核心,到了B以後发觉C
才是
而awareness的穿透力除了发觉真正的问题以外,最重要的地方在於,当awareness穿透力
足时只要看到问题就足以引发改变,当穿透力不足,不管你怎麽觉察效果有限,好比过去
精神分析病人,个案一做就是二三十年,探究一辈子的真相到头来却无用
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1F:推 ccheer93: 推11/26 13:36
2F:推 pizzafan: 荆人失弓... →去楚可以 →去人可矣 (去除"当下"也可以)11/27 06:20
3F:推 hsuehome: 请问接纳为什麽是排拒能量11/27 07:02
4F:推 lizardwang: 「试着去接纳」表示你内心仍然有点排斥,勉强接受而已11/27 07:47
5F:推 hsuehome: 接纳不就是允许情绪存在,不抵抗他?虽然说我实际用起来11/27 08:58
6F:推 hsuehome: 觉知当下对我来说比较有用,只是还是好奇11/27 09:02
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7F:→ lifeliar: 接纳应该是说让情绪自由,不受谁的限制。 11/27 20:19
8F:推 pizzafan: google: 色空故无恼坏相 ~ 想空故无知相 ~ 识空故无觉相 11/28 06:15
9F:→ gordianknot: 接纳可以说是不抵抗,但也不完全是,应该说有三种接 11/28 15:20
10F:→ gordianknot: 纳的形式1) True 11/28 15:20
11F:→ gordianknot: Acceptance 2) Acceptance as resignation 一种不得 11/28 15:20
12F:→ gordianknot: 不的接纳 3) Acceptance as Grasping 一种带有执取 11/28 15:20
13F:→ gordianknot: 的接纳(通常是我们喜欢的事物) , 对应到禅的语言所 11/28 15:20
14F:→ gordianknot: 谓的觉察当下指的是「不跟随不对抗内在升起的一切经 11/28 15:20
15F:→ gordianknot: 验」,所以不只是不对抗,他还包括了不跟随,所以Tru 11/28 15:20
16F:→ gordianknot: e Acceptance可以说是不跟随不对抗内在升起的一切经 11/28 15:20
17F:→ gordianknot: 验,而Acceptance as Resignation是一种基於不得不 11/28 15:20
18F:→ gordianknot: 的反抗,好比我没法改变现状所以只好接受现状,好比 11/28 15:20
19F:→ gordianknot: 一个小偷一直无法戒除偷东西的行为,最後他接受自已 11/28 15:20
20F:→ gordianknot: 会偷东西,但这并不是接纳,可是对小偷来说却是,因 11/28 15:20
21F:→ gordianknot: 为这是他有限的觉察里所感受到的东西,因为他最真实 11/28 15:20
22F:→ gordianknot: 的念头被长久以来的自我麻痹给掩盖住,所以当偷念升 11/28 15:20
23F:→ gordianknot: 起前他会直接跳过引起偷升起的第一念而直接进入某个 11/28 15:20
24F:→ gordianknot: 冲动进而引发行为,所以对这个小偷而言所谓的自我接 11/28 15:20
25F:→ gordianknot: 纳根本就无从接纳起,因为内在升起的经验直接被略过 11/28 15:20
26F:→ gordianknot: ! 11/28 15:20
27F:→ gordianknot: 即便有些人可以觉察到第一念,但是有时太短而被忽略 11/28 15:25
28F:→ gordianknot: 掉,或者更多时候我们觉察到的第一念其实包了很多层 11/28 15:25
29F:→ gordianknot: 的东西,而我们只能看到第一层,所以只能渐进式的一 11/28 15:25
30F:→ gordianknot: 步一步往前才能知道,到底最终要接纳的是什麽! 11/28 15:25
31F:→ gordianknot: 为什麽「接纳」这个字要跟「自我」绑在一起?人之所 11/28 15:31
32F:→ gordianknot: 有执以为有个自我是因为觉察到内在经验与感受,并且 11/28 15:31
33F:→ gordianknot: 有个觉察在体验并看着这个经验,所以其实所谓接纳自 11/28 15:31
34F:→ gordianknot: 我指的是这些内在升起的感受与经验,也就是如实的体 11/28 15:31
35F:→ gordianknot: 验它,他本来是什麽就是什麽,不试图拍打喂食,同理 11/28 15:31
36F:→ gordianknot: 什麽又是自我拒绝?拒绝你的内在经验就叫自我拒绝, 11/28 15:31
37F:→ gordianknot: 一个人不可能拒绝自已的内在经验还能够做自已,一个 11/28 15:31
38F:→ gordianknot: 人不可能有另一个自已可做因为那已经在分裂自已了, 11/28 15:31
39F:→ gordianknot: 人能做的只能拥抱每个内在经验,所以自我接纳的自我 11/28 15:31
40F:→ gordianknot: 是指每个当下你如实体验到的内在经验,不操 不干预 11/28 15:31
41F:→ gordianknot: 不操 不干预不跟随不对抗不趋乐不避苦,它没有做对 11/28 15:33
42F:→ gordianknot: 它没有做对或做错,没有所谓的虚幻与真实,完全得视 11/28 15:37
43F:→ gordianknot: 你自已对於自已的内在真相了解到多少,觉知的涉透力 11/28 15:37
44F:→ gordianknot: 又能穿透多少,否则「虚幻」的概念对我们而言也会成 11/28 15:37
45F:→ gordianknot: 为另一个「虚幻」,因为它不是真实的,并不是说虚幻 11/28 15:37
46F:→ gordianknot: 是假的,而是说因为它并不是透过我们的眼睛如实的看 11/28 15:37
47F:→ gordianknot: 见他是虚幻的,但并不是说虚幻的概念无用,随着我们 11/28 15:37
48F:→ gordianknot: 的觉察跟体会虚幻才会越来越有用。 11/28 15:37