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By Austin Burton http://dimemag.com/2008/05/29/the-vince-carter-apologist/ Public perception is a peculiar thing. In the annals of ballplayers who came into the NBA as highlight-makers who dunked on everyone in their path and lived in the lane, the inevitable point in their careers when they have to adjust and become jump-shooters is met with varying responses. 大众的认知是一种奇妙的事情。在每一个高飞灌篮球员进入 NBA 後, 他们每一次在禁区大个子前或是摆脱防守好手来个大灌篮留下的记录, 是很难让球迷抹灭的。 不可避免的一点是,当他们的生涯要进行转变成跳投手的时候,总是会遇见 不同的反应。 Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant were universally praised for it. Dwyane Wade is currently being encouraged to diversify his game and prolong what has been an injury-riddled career, after which he’ll no doubt be praised. And eventually critics will look more toward LeBron James and \ Josh Smith to change it up from the constant attack mode. Michael Jordan 和 Kobe Bryant 是被大众赞扬。 D-Wade 也正遭遇改变他球赛方式的时机,以延长那伤病困扰的生涯时期, 还无疑问的,他还是会被赞扬。当 LBJ 和 Josh Smith 改变目前的进攻模式时, 恐怕批评将会着眼在他们俩身上更多。 Vince Carter? He gets called “soft” and “fragile” (or worse) and is accused of “settling” for jumpers when all he’s done is make the same adjustment every wildly athletic wing player eventually makes. Personally, I don’t get it. At a time in his career when injuries started to become a problem and he was approaching 30, Vince naturally became less of a slasher and more of a shooter. And it’s not like he didn’t get good results: in the past three seasons he’s shot around 45% from the field (compared to about 46% his first few years in the League), plus he’s still good for at least 21 points per game, several trips to the free throw line, and those occasional 40-point explosions. 关於 VC ? 有些人说他软弱或是易受伤(甚至更差), 而且因为同样像每一个运动能力很好的摇摆球员最终需要改变自己的球赛时, 因为以跳投进行他的球赛而遭受批评。 在他生涯的一个时候,当伤病成为一个问题时,还有当他年纪接近 30, Vince 自然而然的成为一个较少灌篮、较多投篮的球员。 但这并不代表他没有得到很好的结果,在过去三个球季,他以 45% 左右的 命中率在联盟生存,他在联盟初期也约 46% 。 而且他依旧每场可以拿下至少 21 分,七次上罚球线的机会,甚至偶尔的40分爆发。 Because he was such an amazing dunker in his younger days, it’s like people are mad at Vince because he doesn’t get 75 percent of his points above the rim. But who does that? Look at George Gervin; famous for the finger roll, but his game was really very dependent on his jumper. MJ became the game’s biggest endorser on a foundation of dunking and the whole “Air” persona, but his jumper was the foundation of his game. That’s just how elite two-guards operate. 只因为在他较年轻的日子里,他是一名非常让人惊讶的灌篮高手, 就像人们会开始感到生气,当 Vince 的分数有百分之七十五不在篮框附近取得。 再看看还有谁也是如此,George Gervin,他的切入上篮是很着名的, 可是他的球赛依旧很仰赖跳投。 MJ 成为球赛当中“高空飞行”最大的背书者,但是他球赛的本质也是跳投, 这就是优秀的得分後卫如何在他的生涯当中进行的。 For someone who’s often called lazy and a one-dimensional scorer, Vince Carter is far from it — he’s actually one of the best all-around players in the sport. This season he put up 21 points, six boards and five assists per game, making him one of only a handful of guys (LeBron, Kobe and T-Mac were the only others) to average 20-5-5 across the board. 对於某些人被称为懒惰或者是单方面的得分球员,Vince Carter 离那里远得很。 事实上,他可是众多优秀全面球员之一,上一个球季,平均 21 分, 带有 6 篮板,5助攻。 其余可以办到如此的球员,也只有这几个 Kobe, LeBron, 和 T-Mac,可以平均 20 - 5 - 5。 The biggest knocks on Vince are that he isn’t aggressive enough, he’s always injured, and that he doesn’t play hard. To address all three: 对 Vince 的批评中最多的是他不够积极,或是他总是受伤,或是不够认真。 我们来看看这三点。 (1) Vince still dunks on cats regularly and attacks the basket often. You’d have to regularly watch Nets games to see it — which I’ve been able to do living in the NY/NJ area — but you can also look at his 429 free throw attempts this past season, which ranked 22nd in the League. Vince took more free throws (a good indication of attacking the basket) than notoriously aggressive scorers like Baron Davis, Monta Ellis, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Brandon Roy and Tony Parker, among others. And according to CBS Sportsline’s unofficial “Dunk-O-Meter” ticker, Vince threw down 71 dunks this season, 38th-best in the League and higher than Gerald Wallace, Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, Tim Duncan and Jason Richardson. (1) 事实上, Vince 依旧经常灌篮和进攻篮框,你必须经常看篮网的球赛来 看到这事实,这也是住在 NY/NJ 区域的我常看到的,在上一个球季他有 429 次 上罚球线的机会,这在联盟排行第 22 。 Vince 跟一些积极的进攻者比较起来还拿了更多的罚球机会,包含 Baron Davis, Monta Ellis, Deron Williams, CP3, Brandon Roy, Tony Parker 等。 CBS Sportsline 的非官方灌篮统计, VC 依旧灌了 71 次的篮,比 Gerald Wallace, Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, Tim Duncan, Jason Richardson 还多。 (2) Over the past four seasons, Vince has played in 314 of a possible 328 regular season games. In that same span, Kobe — who no one’s ever accused of being fragile — has played in 305 games. Kevin Garnett, another guy given all the warrior credit in the world, has played in 305. (2) 在过去四个球季,328个出场机会,他出场了314场。 以同样的标准, Kobe - 从未被批评易受伤的,出场了 305 场。 KG,这位被世界公认为战士的球员,也出场了 305 场。 (3) The perception that Vince consistently doesn’t play hard all stems from the infamous interview where he admitted he didn’t always give it his all in Toronto. If you really think Vince Carter is the only NBA player who has occasionally played at less than 100 percent, you’re kidding yourself. Watch a Clippers/Bobcats game in March and tell me everyone on the court is going all-out. And on a bigger stage — and I hate to keep bringing up Kobe, but he is the game’s most visible player and the standard by which active two-guards are judged — look at the two Game 7 losses Kobe suffered at the hands of the Suns in ‘06 and ‘07. In fact, in Game 1 of this year’s San Antonio series even Lakers fans were saying Kobe didn’t go all-out in the first half when he scored only two points. (3) 会有人说 VC 不够努力,可能因为他接受的一次访问中,说在Toronto 没有付出 全力。 但如果你觉得 VC 是NBA 唯一这样的球员,那你一定是在开玩笑。 看看在三月的比赛 快艇和山猫,并试着告诉我他们全部都是拼了老命在打。 在看看更高的阶层,先说,我不喜欢把Kobe 的话题带起来,但是他是一个 最容易注意到的球员,并且树立了目前得分後位的标准。 在06,07 对上太阳的那两个系列赛,甚至今年对马刺的系列赛,一些球迷 也说Kobe 上半场不够认真,因为只拿了两分。 I’m not a huge Vince Carter fan, but I don’t think he deserves all the hate fans seem to have for him. If you’re in that group, what’s your reason for disliking VC so much? 我不是一个 VC 的狂热球迷,但我不认为他必须承受这些憎恨者给他的东西。 如果你是那个团体的人,你讨厌 VC 的原因究竟是什麽? --



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◆ From: 220.132.58.136 ※ 编辑: NetsFan 来自: 220.132.58.136 (06/02 11:54)
1F:推 eilgreen:只能给推了~~VC真的背了许多莫名其妙的原罪 06/02 11:54
※ 编辑: NetsFan 来自: 220.132.58.136 (06/02 11:56)
2F:推 elviscarter:因为VC当初太红了~~所以反迷找到机会一定要打压他,另 06/02 11:58
3F:→ elviscarter:一方面是,VC没有达到当初大家对他的期待~MJ接班人or 06/02 11:59
4F:→ elviscarter:联盟新生代霸者...所以满多人在与预期落差下而糗她 06/02 12:00
5F:→ NetsFan:其实最能证明自己的时候 就是把球队的战绩带起来 06/02 12:00
6F:→ elviscarter:希望下季能健健康康在次带领篮网冲击总冠军啊! 06/02 12:01
7F:推 BadJack:对 把战绩带起来! 下季是VC证明自己的时机 06/02 12:02
8F:→ BadJack:希望Kiki和Thorn能给他一个内线的好帮手 06/02 12:04
9F:推 ChiangPing:Gerald Wallace因伤打太少场了。J-Rich则是变成跳投人 06/02 12:05
10F:推 elviscarter:篮网板 最近难得人气破10耶XD 可喜可贺 06/02 12:07
11F:推 BadJack:J-Rich灌篮大赛很猛 但实战有点虚 06/02 12:08
12F:推 Reyyy:我还是每天日夜都会进来看看 对VC和篮网的感情太深厚了 06/02 12:12
13F:→ NetsFan:大家努力贴些资讯 让这边不至於缺水吧 !!! 06/02 12:15
14F:推 elviscarter:我也是~上班比较有空就偷看一下XD 晚上睡前上来晃晃 06/02 12:19
15F:推 gf65:VC只能说运真的不顺.....生涯第四年就进场 那时候正要起飞啊 06/02 12:48
16F:推 anyweather:推呀~ VC超可怜 希望VC这次动完刀後 可以再造第二春 06/02 13:24
17F:→ Duncan7406:VC最後在暴龙大概惹到不少球迷 有人骂他也不意外啦= = 06/02 14:08
18F:推 a29657273:狂推这篇 06/02 14:08
19F:推 badprince:真的很多人认为 VC = half-dunker half-nothing 啊 06/02 14:19
20F:→ badprince:连摸速和八颗粒都这样愣为 06/02 14:21
21F:→ badprince:显然的原因有二 他的灌篮风采让他的其他才能相形失色 06/02 14:22
22F:→ badprince:以至於被忽视?! 第二 在同位置上的球迷占有率被有相对 06/02 14:23
23F:→ badprince:身型 较 阴柔飘逸 的 柯比 踢妹占走了 06/02 14:25
24F:→ badprince:加上篮网又不是强队 以致於大部分人都只看过VC的十大 06/02 14:26
25F:推 scottham:half-dunker half-nothing .... 06/02 14:27
26F:→ badprince:百灌之类的 很少注意它的比赛 湖人火箭受注目程度真 06/02 14:28
27F:→ badprince:的大很多 06/02 14:28
28F:推 badprince:看ptt一段时间下来真的觉得VC被评价远不如KB TM等人 06/02 14:31
29F:→ badprince:比之PP Ray之类的大概也会一堆人说VC败 06/02 14:32
30F:→ badprince:有时对於这样的轻视真的会感到莫名的愤怒 06/02 14:32
31F:→ badprince:╮(╯︿╰)╭不过习惯了 ( ′-`)y-~能看到VC健康好表现 06/02 14:35
32F:→ badprince:就满足了 不过还是是希望VC明年好表现拉起战绩到50胜up 06/02 14:37
33F:→ badprince:或许能改变很多人的看法 06/02 14:37
34F:推 sam105251:泪推 T.T 06/02 14:43
35F:推 badprince:另外补充个VC新影片好了 不过没啥特别的 想下就下吧 06/02 14:52
36F:→ badprince:http://tinyurl.com/4tzm5m 06/02 14:53
37F:推 VinceDunk:推好文 我的最爱还是Vince Carter!!! 06/02 15:53
38F:→ OGoTTe:推B大 VC真的被其他人看的很扁 不过已经习惯了( ′-`)y-~ 06/02 17:07
39F:→ OGoTTe:我只希望看到下季VC健康出赛正常发挥就很满足了 06/02 17:08
40F:推 Maxslack:这篇去挑Kobe的问题是很没意义的 事实就是Kobe在总冠军赛 06/02 18:10
41F:→ Maxslack:了...VC的问题出在自己 重新当老大的感觉要自己抓回来 06/02 18:11
42F:推 hotcom:(  ̄ c ̄)y▂ξ 输给自己? XD 06/02 18:18
43F:推 BadJack:这篇有去挑Kobe的问题? 只是说到他的出赛场次 抠迷太敏感 06/02 18:25
44F:→ BadJack:作者根本也没拿他们两个比较 只是拿KB说明VC出赛状况正常 06/02 18:26
45F:→ BadJack:而且作者也说了Kobe是得分後卫的典范 这样还有问题?? 06/02 18:29
46F:推 VCThree:@@? 太敏感了吧 没说Kobe怎样吧 06/02 19:38
47F:推 VCThree:话说湖迷真是High~ 每个板都逛 真羡慕呀 06/02 19:42
48F:推 mlcdkb:看到某人的推文我笑了,怎麽就自己拉椅子坐下来了 06/02 19:51
49F:推 Maxslack:看NBA当然不只看自己的喜欢的球队 Carter也是不错的球员 06/02 20:25
50F:→ Maxslack:最後硬要提Kobe出来一下的 好像是原作吧 推文不就表达一 06/02 20:26
51F:→ Maxslack:下自己的看法而已? 06/02 20:26
52F:推 Maxslack:这篇最後顺便把山猫快艇坦克的事也酸一酸 我想提醒一下 06/02 20:29
53F:→ Maxslack:山猫三月做掉过湖人... 06/02 20:30
54F:→ NetsFan:原作的意思应该是 球员并非都能永远付出他们的最多... 06/02 20:42
55F:→ NetsFan:就像vc 在暴龙时期 依旧轰过51分 06/02 20:43
56F:→ NetsFan:当然篮网版是任何人都能来看的 06/02 20:44
57F:推 cancernan:好像也没说KB怎样吧~应该只是原作者想到题一下而已吧 06/02 22:11
58F:推 date310164:VC加油..赶快健康起来.. 06/02 23:56
59F:推 mysterio619:泪推坏王子的推文 06/03 12:31
60F:→ muxiv: 这篇去挑Kobe的问题 http://yofuk.com 04/19 20:55







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