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Scott Boras and the Nationals: What’s the deal with all these deals? http://goo.gl/WVPKLs By Barry Svrluga Columnist February 27 at 6:24 AM WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — It is inescapable now. Matt Wieters can walk into a non-Orioles clubhouse for the first time in his career, and we can ask questions about how his lengthy foray in free agency went (“It was different ”), the current state of his health (“I feel great physically”), and how he feels about his new job as the starting catcher for the Washington Nationals (“I always thought Washington would be a good fit for me”). 不可避免的Wieters 将在他的职业生涯第一次踏进非金莺休息室,而我们也 得以询问他关於他的自由市场初体验("很不一样")与他当前的健康状况 {"好极了")还有他对自己在华盛顿国民的先发捕手这份新工作感觉如何 ("我总觉得华盛顿很适合我")。 But what everyone notices first isn’t how Wieters will fit or what he’ll produce, but whom he employs as his representation. That would be one Scott Dean Boras. 但所有人率先注意到的都不是Wieters 合不合适或他的产值.而是他聘请谁 来帮他说话。那就是独一无二的Scott Dean Boras。 Here are the Boras clients now expected to be in the Nationals’ starting lineup: Bryce Harper, Anthony Rendon, Jayson Werth and Wieters. Here are the Boras clients now expected to be in the Nats’ starting rotation: Max Scherzer, Stephen Strasburg and Gio Gonzalez. Stephen Drew will be on the bench, with Brian Goodwin fighting for a spot there as well. Oliver Perez will be in the bullpen. 这是国民先发打线中预期的Boras成员:Harper、Rendon、Werth、Wieters; 这边是轮值圈Boras成员:Scherzer、小史与Gio。Drew是板凳军,Goodwin也 在争取板凳席次。OP则待在牛棚。 Can’t count that high? I’ll get out the abacus. It’s 10 players, nine of whom are all but guaranteed to be on an Opening Day roster of 25. Tally up those current contracts (leaving out Gonzalez, who came to employ Boras after signing his current extension with the Nats), and you get — remain seated — $551.425 million, spanning from the first year of Werth’s deal in 2011 to the last of Strasburg’s extension, which won’t be paid till 2030. 数不过来了?我帮你算。这是10个人,其中九个确定会留在开季25人名单。 把目前这些合约全部加起来,先不算跟国民签完延长约後才雇Boras的Gio, 你会得到,坐稳罗,551.425M。从2011年Werth 的七年约起算到2030年付完 小史的延长约为止。 Think that’s too much money to too many players from one shop? The answer, from the Nats’ perspective: 你觉得这样是把太多钱押在同一个卖家身上吗?国民这样回答: “We have nine players we like that happen to be represented by Scott Boras,” General Manager Mike Rizzo said. “Go down the list. They’re all good players. We like all of them. They all fit on this team. We want to have good players.” "刚好我们喜欢的九个球员碰巧是Boras的客户," 光头说。 "这张名单从头到尾都是我们喜欢的好球员,他们都适合这支球队。好球员 我们都要。" Still, the Wieters deal is instructive. Wieters的约还是有启发性。 First, if Boras has a free agent late in the offseason, monitor Washington. In January 2015, when Washington had a rotation of Strasburg, Jordan Zimmermann, Gonzalez, Tanner Roark and Doug Fister — a rotation that led all of baseball the previous season — they had no obvious need for Scherzer. Yet they somehow agreed to a seven-year, $210-million deal that, at the time, seemed excessive. 第一,如果Boras 有客户到休赛季快结束了还找不到工作,请将镜头转向国 民;2015年一月,当华盛顿在季前就拥有小史、JZ、Gio、Roark与Fister这 种引领联盟的轮值圈时,他们对Scherzer并没有明显的需要,然後他们就跟 他签了七年210M。当时看似乎补过头了。 From the beginning of Scherzer’s free agency, Boras had described the pursuit as an “ownership decision.” With that in mind, the pitch from agent to owner came at Ted Lerner’s Palm Springs, Calif., vacation home. The owner quizzed Rizzo about Scherzer and how he would fit baseball-wise. For Rizzo, these were easy questions. As the scouting director in Arizona, he drafted the right-hander out of the University of Missouri. He knew the player. 从Scherzer成为FA起算,Boras便将这场追逐战描述为"经营者的决定"。 记住这点。球从Boras手上投到Ted Lerner在加州Palm Springs的渡假地。 老板向光头询问关於Sherzer与他适不适合球队,对光头来说这问题再简单 不过;光头还在亚历桑纳当球探大头时就是他从University of Missouri 选中Scherzer,他很了解Scherzer。 “What’s not to like about Max Scherzer?” Rizzo said. “Does he make us better?” "谁能不喜欢Scherzer?" 光头说。 "他有令我们变得更好吗?" After two all-star appearances and a Cy Young award for Scherzer, that answer is obvious. But it’s a reasonable question about Wieters. Back when Wieters was being shopped at much more money than the one-year, $10.5-million deal (with a player option for the same salary in 2018) for which the Nats got him at, Washington wasn’t interested. Apparently, at a starting point of five years and $85 million, no one was. The Nats, needing a replacement for the departed Wilson Ramos behind the plate, traded for Derek Norris, one of their former prospects. 在两度参加全明星与拿下一座CYA後,答案显而易见。但相对Wieters这笔却 有理由够充足的疑虑。回到Wieters以远高於国民签下的一年10.5M(加2018 年同样价格的球员选择权)被Boras 兜售时,国民没有兴趣。显然从一开始 开出五年85M就没人会买单。Ramos离队後国民需要补上捕手缺口,他们也把 前农场新秀Norris交易回来。 And yet, when Wieters’s price dropped, Boras returned to a familiar hitching post. Last Saturday, Rizzo flew to Atlanta to meet with Wieters face to face. Homework done, the two sides worked out a contract. And the baseball world, collectively, said: “Oh, yeah. Another Boras client to the Nats. Figures.” 之後Wieters价格下滑,Boras就回头找老相好了。上周六光头飞到亚特兰大 与Wieters面对面,作业完成後两边达成协议。而整个棒球界,异口同声:" 噢,当然了,又一个加入国民的Boras客户。很合理。" All of this really began when the Nationals pursued first baseman Mark Teixeira, who was represented by Boras, in the 2008-09 offseason. The first major Boras player they landed was Werth, who was coming off a couple of career years with the Phillies in 2010. Then, the outfielder had a six-year, $108-million offer from Boston, a club that was used to spending that kind of money on this kind of free agent. The Nationals, neither in-season contenders nor offseason factors at the time, had to go an extra year at the same rate — $18 million annually — to land Werth. Those negotiations took place with Rizzo, Lerner and Boras in the agent’s Southern California offices. 一切真正的开始要从2008-09休赛季期间国民角逐一垒手Teixeira 起算,第 一个加入国民的主要Boras客户则是在费城人最後两年打出生涯年的Werth。 当年已经很习惯花钱的红袜开给他六年108M,而当时既非冠军竞争者也不具 吸引力的国民被迫以年薪18M为基础多开一年。光头与Lerner都出席Boras在 南加州的办公室参与讨论。 By that point, Strasburg and shortstop Danny Espinosa — a Boras client who later switched agencies — were already on board. Harper would follow in the next draft. Prior to 2012, the Nats traded for Gonzalez, who wasn’t with Boras at the time but since has hired him. They selected Rendon with the sixth pick in the 2011 draft. When you have bad teams, you receive high draft picks. Any group of the top prospects in the draft is sprinkled with Boras clients. 2009年小史与後来才聘请Boras 的Espinosa都已被选进国民,Harper则在下 一届选秀。2012年季前国民换来Gio,Gio也在之後雇用Boras 。2011年国民 则在第六顺位挑走Rendon。当你打得很烂就会得到高顺位,而不管哪一次选 秀,顶级新秀群里都遍布Boras的客户。 “What, am I going to not draft Rendon because he’s represented by Scott Boras?” Rizzo asked. “Other teams might do that. We’re not going to. We want the best players we can have.” "什麽?我要因为Rendon的经纪人是Boras就不选他吗?" 光头问。 "其他球队也许吧,但我们不会。最好的球员我们都要。" Still, the relationship bears watching going forward. Two things: First, after the 2012 season, when then-Nats closer Drew Storen had blown the fifth game of Washington’s division series against the Cardinals, Boras was shopping former Yankee Rafael Soriano. He went directly to Lerner. Lerner went directly to Rizzo: I got you a closer. Soriano made the Nationals better, but at two years and $28 million? The only reliever in history to ever earn more on an annual basis was Mariano Rivera. Boras与国民高层关系仍然持续延续。两件事:第一,2012年季後赛Storen 崩掉对红雀的分区系列第五战,过後Boras便直接找上Lerner推销Soriano。 Lerner则直接告诉光头"我帮你弄来一个终结者"。Soriano让国民更好, 但两年28M?就牛棚投手来说过去只有Mo的年均比这张高。 Because that deal went down in that fashion — and because Boras and Lerner have an affinity for each other personally — it’s worth asking who was involved in each negotiation, just as it was last year, when Lerner and Boras were the primary architects of Strasburg’s seven-year, $175-million extension that kicks in this season. 因为那张约以那种方式呈现,也因为Boras 以及Lerner私人间的密切关系, 值得探讨是谁涉入每一次谈判;就像去年季中,以Lerner与Boras 为主事者 完成小史那张七年175M的延长约那样。 Secondly, expect more Boras-Nats deals in the future given (A) the way the Nationals like to structure their contracts, which is often with lots of money deferred to future years, and (B) Boras’s willingness to do the same. Even Wieters’s relatively minor contract is built that way, with $8 million to be paid in 2017, $1 million in 2018 and $1.5 in 2019. Both Scherzer and Strasburg will be paid millions by the Nats after their contracts are up, a negotiating strategy that has scared off some potential free agents but at which Boras doesn’t balk. 第二,预计将有更多Boras客户进入国民。因为, A、 国民的合约结构倾向於包含大量未来延迟给付; B、 Boras也愿意接受。就算Weiter 这张相对较小的合约也一样。2017年付8M, 2018年1M,2019年1.5M。Scherzer和小史的合约结束後都将持续从国民领取 以百万为单位的延迟给付。这种交涉策略会吓走一些本来有机会加入的自由 球员,但Boras并不介意。 There are people within the Nationals’ organization who feel this is an unhealthy relationship. Rizzo said he is not one of them. 某些国民组织里的成员认为这是不健康关系,光头说他不这麽想。 “I’ve spent my entire career doing this,” Rizzo said. “Even when I was a scouting director in Arizona, we drafted a lot of them — because they were really good players, and we like really good players.” "我的职业生涯一直都这样搞。" 光头说。 "就算当我还在亚利桑那当球探大头时我们也选了很多Boras 的客户。因为 他们真是很棒的球员,而我们喜欢很棒的球员。" Matt Wieters is here now. Expect more where he came from. Wieters已经来了。可以预期会有更多人会被Boras带着一起来。 ─────────────────────────────────────── 说实话国民虽然有很多Boras的客户但个人认为真正伤害球队的, 可能硬要挑也只有2014年下半季的Soriano吧? Werth那张约虽然很大张但他其实打得不差。 防守本来就不是他的卖点, 不过打击部分只要没带伤打, 也只是随着年龄稳定下滑而已; 他的耗球能力一直很棒, 要他打哪个棒次也都能发挥该棒次的功能性。 而且很多国民阵中成员都说Werth的加入彻底改变国民休息室, 连带着怨念离开的Espinosa在转队後接受访问时都对Werth赞誉有加。 Scherzer的七年210M前两年绝对对得起这张合约。 当然Scherzer已经站在wrong side, 不能期待他接下来都是这种表现。 至少三年ACE、两年三号、两年工作马, 我想这样就可以接受了。 Scherzer也是个性开朗能带动团队气氛的阳光男孩。 至於小史七年175M今年才起算, 既然还没开始跑也不方便评论了。 虽然相信很多人跟我一样不看好。 其实这张Boras当时并不想签, 是小史跟Ted Lerner双方高度意愿下的产物。 Rendon跟Harper只要不带伤就是稳稳的五拍子好手, 况且这两只都在仲裁, 以他们拿的薪水球迷也没啥好埋怨的。 目前这时间点要说国民被Boras塞得满满的真的是假议题, 国民的问题依然是只能开延迟给付的合约。 照这样看来, 不如说愿意接受延迟给付的Boras反而帮国民解决不少问题咧XD --



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1F:推 HansonBobo: 延迟给付 很多自由球员就不想来了 03/17 08:54
2F:推 ug945: 不同意原作者说Soriano让国民更好XDD 03/17 11:07
3F:→ ddtddt: 国民确实有比较高比率跟Boras合作吧@@ 03/17 12:12
4F:推 Jeffrey0221: Boras的客户在联盟比例很高吗? 03/17 13:50
5F:推 microSD: "Soriano让国民更好" <--- XD 03/18 04:18
6F:推 kenkenken31: sori成绩确实有缴出来呀,宝贝碰也是同个情况,都第 03/19 02:07
7F:→ kenkenken31: 二年後面开始崩盘而已,尽管它们个性不是很讨喜。 03/19 02:07
8F:推 cc9i: 国民延迟付款玩上瘾了 会不会影像以後几年的布局 03/19 10:43







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