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标题[情报] Fangraphs版国民2015新秀榜 PART.3
时间Wed Feb 18 08:44:55 2015
40 FV Prospects
11. Jakson Reetz, C :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdsUn3X8Iuk
Reetz was a high-profile prospect on the showcase circuit as a standout talent
from Nebraska that had everyday catcher tools, hit well at nearly every event,
was into the low-90′s on the mound and was a three sport star in high school.
His body got heavier late in the summer and his swing path got more uphill, but
he fixed both during the spring, a time when scouts had trouble evaluating
Reetz against poor Nebraska prep competition.
Reetz 还在内布拉斯加打巡回赛时他就是高评价、拥有杰出天分的新秀。他有先发捕手
的tools,几乎每次出场都能缴出不错的打击成绩;当他站上投手丘也能投到low-90s,
高中时期的他更是三栖运动明星。夏季尾声体重增加挥棒轨迹也偏高,但隔年春天马上
调整回来。由於内布拉斯加的比赛水准不够高,当时球探们也很难评估Reetz。
Reetz flashed average speed at times over the summer but has lost a tick since
then. He has the tools to stick behind the plate with an above average arm,
lots of energy and a grinder mentality. Reetz has advanced bat control and
solid average raw power, so if he can keep his swing in order, there’s real
upside here. Catchers typically take longer to develop and are less predictable
but Reetz has the indicators you like to see.
夏天时Reetz 还能表现average speed但之後就往下掉了一级。他有above average arm
与站稳捕手的tools ,一大堆能量跟稳定的心智;他掌控球棒的能力已经超越同级打者
,也有solid average raw power 。因此假如在每次站上打击区时都能持续他的挥棒机
制真的还很有看头。传统上捕手需要更多培养时间,预测空间也小,但Reetz 拥有你希
望看到的任何东西。
12. Drew Ward, 3B :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_EO1e9VNsI
Ward had tons of buzz as a high school underclassman because he was so physical
for his class and showed above average left-handed power with good performances
at top events while playing shortstop. The problem is that he was very old for
his class: playing with the 2014 prep draft class and aged like an older 2013
kid. Once scouts realized what they were looking at, he became a more ordinary
prospects.
高中低年级的Ward就已经因为强壮肉体与above average的左打power受到瞩目,他也能
在重要比赛里把游击位置守得很好。问题是就他待的层级而言他已经太老了。他跟2014
选秀梯的球员一起打球,但他的年纪却更接近2013梯;一旦球探们了解他的状况,他就
会变成一个更普通的新秀。
Given that he’s a big power hitter that physically matured quickly, he was
close to being a finished product (for an amateur) in his junior season of high
school, so he reclassified to enter the 2013 draft, where the Nats took him in
the 3rd round. He was always seen as a third baseman and, depending on how much
weight he added, eventually a first baseman. Ward has an above average arm and
his hands are fine, but he’s 6’4/210, still growing, has trouble staying low
on grounders and is a 35 runner, so first base seems inevitable.
基於肉体成熟迅速他是个 big power hitter,以业余球员来看他在高中junior season
就很接近完成品,所以他决定直接进2013年选秀会而国民也在第三轮把他挑走。他看上
去永远是个三垒手,但考量到增加的体重他最终会是一垒手。Ward拥有 above average
arm而手部动作也没问题,但还在成长的他已经有六尺四寸210磅,这会让他在压低身体
处理滚地球时遭遇麻烦。他也只是个35分的runner,故此转守一垒似乎将是无可避免。
Ward’s carrying tools are his bat and power and, competing at Low-A at 19, he
was finally facing his peers in 2014 and he performed well. Ward is a power
hitter so honing his approach to tap into his power without striking out too
much is an important adjustment. He’s also just now facing real competition
and dealing with failure after weak Oklahoma prep competition, so there’s
reason to expect growth. He has some feel for the strike zone and tapping into
his power in games and the tools are here for 55 hit and game power, which
he’ll need to profile everyday at first base.
Ward的主力武器是棒子跟power,2014年以19岁的年纪在Low-A出赛,他终於有机会挑战
同龄对手也表现不错。Ward是个power hitter,所以如何驾驭攻击策略,在开发 power
的同时能避免被三振太多次将是重要调整课题。高中时期无敌手的他是到现在才面临真
正的挑战,包括如何面对失败。也因此还有期待他继续成长的理由。他对好球带的感觉
不错,正在把power开发到比赛里。hit与game power都是55分,他会需要证明自己是能
够天天上场先发的一垒手。
13. Austin Voth, RHP :
http://youtu.be/n55OYb8T248?t=1m29s
Voth is an advanced pitchability guy that was drafted in the 5th round from
Washington in 2013 and has limited physical projection left. He works with a
fringy fastball and solid average changeup, working in a curveball that he
doesn’t use enough but at times is above average. Voth threw a lot of innings
in college, so the Nats think with a more regular usage pattern in pro ball,
his velocity will climb from 88-90 to 91-93 and he has hit 95 mph before, so
that isn’t just wishful thinking. Voth will pitch in the upper levels in 2015
and if the stuff ticks up a bit, he could be a threat for the 2016 rotation,
with a better chance he settles as a #5 starter or swingman.
Voth是2013年第五轮被选进国民,拥有高等投球智慧,体格方面发展有限。他主要运用
的是普普fastball与solid average changeup,还在锻链用得不够多但偶尔也能 above
average的curveball。Voth读大学时吃不少局数,是以国民认为可以在职业联盟用更正
规的使用方式对待他。因为他过去也投到95,所以期待他能将球速从88-90升至91-93并
非一厢情愿。2015年他会在更高层级出赛,如果stuff 能往上跳一点他就够格抢2016年
轮值位置。他很有机会成为五号先发或能同时支援长中继与先发的swingman。
14. Aaron Barrett, RHP :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtlqyi8rHWk
Barrett is a reliever that just turned 27 and threw 40 innings in the big
leagues last year, but he still technically qualifies for the list. He’s close
to a finished product, performing well in his rookie year and the stuff is
setup caliber: 92-95, touching 96 mph with a 55 slider. Barrett uses the slider
a lot, tripling up on it at times and has no problem throwing strikes, but is
more of a control (BB rate) over command (K/BB rate) guy. His ceiling is as a
45 FV setup guy and relievers are notoriously volatile, so this feels like a
good spot for him, even though he’s a secure big league contributor. Also,
his linked video doesn’t include him pitching, but it’s pretty funny.
Barrett 是刚满27岁且去年共在大联盟投40局的牛棚投手,但技术上他仍能列入新秀名
单。已经接近完成品的他新人年表现不赖,也有标准布局投手的stuff。球速92-95能达
到96,加上55分slider。Barrett 常投slider,有时连投三颗也能投进好球带没问题。
但他的control(保送率)还是高於command (三振保送比)。他的天花板是45 FV的布
局投手而大家都知道中继投手是不稳定的,所以即使你可以放心让他在大联盟上场投球
,把他放在 45 FV这个位置感觉还OK。还有他的影片里虽然没有他投球的样子但真的非
常有趣。
15. Jefry Rodriguez, RHP :
http://youtu.be/2oBc5BIdhiI?t=31s
Rodriguez got lumped with Lopez as the talented young Latin arms in the system
at one point, until Lopez took off in the second half of 2015 and Rodriguez is
still more of a projection bet. He’s listed at 6’5/185 but both numbers are
on the conservative side and with his broad shoulders, you can be sure
Rodriguez will add more upper body strength. He was 20/21 in the 2014 season
and is a converted infielder, so it’s a pleasant surprise that he’s already
flashing starter traits and dominate at times. Rodriguez sits 92-96 and hits 97
mph with a curveball that’s above average at time and lots of plane, but the
changeup is below average. He’ll get his first taste of full-season ball in
2015 and has a huge ceiling.
在某个时间点农场里的拉丁潜力投手中Rodriguez还压过Lopez,直到Lopez 在2014年下
半季起飞(原文写2015应是笔误)
。而Rodriguez 还没让人看见推测中应有的实力。身
材纪录是六尺五寸 185磅,但两种数字都算保守而且加上他厚实宽广的肩膀你可以确定
Rodriguez 的身体会更强壮。2014年刚过21岁生日,过去是内野手,因此看到他已经展
现先发投手的特质并偶尔宰制比赛实在让人惊艳。Rodriguez的球速在92-96,能达到97
;加上有时能above average的curveball也可带来不少水平位移,但changeup则 below
average。2015年将首度尝试挑战完整球季而他也有巨大的天花板。
16. Felipe Rivero, LHP :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDL002UuZYU
Rivero was acquired with #23 on this list Vettleson and C Jose Lobaton last
year from Tampa Bay for RHP Nate Karns. Rivero still hasn’t had it all click
for him, but there’s #4 upside if he can make the delivery adjustments to
consistently command his pitches in the zone. The first time I watched him
pitch, I noticed Rivero’s glove hand dangling by his waist at release (the
same problem Taijuan Walker had), which will vary slightly pitch to pitch and
affect his timing and release point; this is something Washington acknowledged
they’re working on. As a starter, Rivero sits 91-95 and hits 97 mph with a
curveball and changeup that both flash 55 but are more often a consistent 50.
I’m betting he becomes a setup guy and even if he stays a starter, the Nats
rotation depth may push him to relief to get a big league opportunity.
去年Nate Karns的交易案里,Rivero与新秀榜第23名的Vettleson跟捕手 Jose Lobaton
一起来到国民。Rivero拥有的天分不多,但只要他能调整出手动作使command 更一致就
可以上看四号先发。首次看他投球时我注意到当放球那一刻Rivero的手套悬在腰部旁边
(Taijuan Walker也有相同毛病),这都会些微改变每次投球动作并影响他的节奏与放
球点。球团都了解并正在努力改善。作为一个先发Rivero可投91-95甚至97,curveball
与changeball都展现过55的实力但通常稳定运作在50。我赌他会变布局投手,即使继续
朝先发养成国民的轮值深度也会迫使他为了追求上大联盟的机会而不得不转换跑道。
17. Nick Pivetta, RHP :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufvWP3d0QVY
Pivetta was an arm strength 4th rounder out of a Juco in 2013 that showed some
idea of how to pitch, but has made strides in that area since signing. He sits
92-94 and hits 96 mph with a slider that’s slurvy but above average at times,
along with a curveball and changeup that are fringy. Pivetta has a durable
workhorse frame and low miles on his arm as a Canadian that’s become a legit
prospect in the last couple years. He’s a control over command guy that has a
chance to stick as a back-end starter if he can be more consistent; Pivetta
will head to High-A in 2015.
Pivetta 是个手臂有力的2013年第四轮新秀,来自Juco,当时就略懂如何投球但签约後
大有长进。他的球速在92-94也可达到96,slider像slurvy不过偶尔能above average,
curveball跟changeup则勉勉强强。Pivetta拥有耐力工作马型身材,而且就像过去几年
来自加拿大的主力新秀那样过去手臂工作量也不大。他的control优於command,如果能
表现得更稳定就有机会卡住轮值後段。2015年Pivetta将会前进High-A。
18. Victor Robles, CF:
Robles is one of the most exciting players in the system and his only
experience since signing for $225,000 on July 2, 2013, was this year in the DSL
and a limited stint in instructs this fall. He’ll head to the GCL next year
and could shoot up this list if the raw tools convert into performance, as
he’ll be aged like 2015 draft high school players. He raked at age 17 in the
DSL thanks to an advanced/patient approach, especially given his age and
background, average raw power, and plus bat speed, foot speed and arm strength.
Robles是农场中最令人兴奋的球员之一。而自从他在2013/07/02被国民用225K签下後唯
一的比赛经验是去年在DSL跟秋天於指导联盟的短暂出场,明年他将从GCL出发。若 raw
tools 能转换到表现上他的新秀排名就能往上抬升,而他的年纪就像2015年即将投身选
秀的高中生一样。17岁就能打好DSL 得归功於高端且深具耐心的攻击策略,特别是考量
到他年纪与背景。此外他也有average raw power、plus挥棒速度,脚步速度与臂力。
19. Matt Skole, 3B :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWVlnMwWsBE
Skole is less exciting than Robles because he’s already 25, missed most of the
2013 season with wrist/elbow surgery and is fringy at third base, so you’re
hoping for a lefty corner utility bat. He has above average raw power and is a
late-count hitter that can punish mistakes, but his swing can get uphill at
times and he can be too passive as well. He’ll head to Triple-A next year and
could be close to contributing, but is likely a true three outcomes corner
utility or platoon guy you’re always trying to upgrade.
已经25岁的Skole 就比较没那麽令人兴奋了。因为手腕手肘动刀错过2013球季的大部分
时间,也只是个不怎麽样的三垒手。因此你只能期待他是守内野角落的左打工具人。他
有 above average raw power,能磨好坏球也可以给犯错的对手重击,但挥棒时棒子偶
尔会拉太高同时也会出棒过度消极。他明年将前进3A也将更接近大联盟,但似乎更可能
是true three outcomes的角落工具人或轮班球员,这些位置你总是想要想办法升级。
(true three outcomes就是不用野手就能完成一个打席的三种方式:三振保送全垒打)
20. Sammy Solis, LHP :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-w49K9coM
Solis is another older prospects, as he’s already 26 and hasn’t been on the
mound much due to a number of arm injuries. In his medical, there’s
significant back and quad injuries, along with a 2012 Tommy John and a 2014
that was almost completely washed out due to soreness in the same elbow. Given
his age and injury history, you would assume the stuff is pretty good for him
to still be on the list and it is: 90-93, with some life, hitting 95 after TJ
and 97 before it, an inconsistent but solid average slider and an above average
changeup. Everything is in order health-wise for him to return to the upper
level and to the bigs, if he can stay healthy and the stuff is still there.
已满26岁的Solis 是另一个老新秀,因为各种手伤导致至今都还不怎麽常出现在投手丘
上。他的病历表上记载背与四头肌都有严重伤势,加上2012年的Tommy John跟2014年手
肘同样位置又发生疼痛。就算他的年龄过大又有伤病史,你还是得假定他的stuff 真的
棒到依然能挤入这张名单。球速 90-93带些尾劲,TJ前97就算开过TJ也摸到过95。不算
稳定但solid average 的slider,还有above average changeup。对他来说往更高阶走
跟前进大联盟的障碍就是健康,只要能保持健康他的stuff一直都在。
21. Rafael Bautista, CF :
http://youtu.be/1UVkg6rmKtw?t=38s
Bautista wasn’t hyped, signing in 2012 just before he turned 19 and hitting
well in the DSL, GCL and Sally League in his three pro seasons. He’s a plus-
plus runner that knows how to use his speed at the plate, on the bases and on
defense. There are some questions about his game power, bat speed and his feel
to hit in general, with one scout saying he could see Bautista turning into a
4th outfielder Jarrod Dyson type.
Bautista不怎麽受注意,2012年未满19岁就与国民签约也在DSL、GCL、Sally League等
三个联盟打得不错。他是plus-plus runner也知道怎麽在打击、跑垒及防守时运用他的
速度。他的game power、挥棒速度与打击的感觉仍受质疑,某位球探认为Bautista会成
为像Jarrod Dyson那样的四号外野手。
22. Drew Vettleson, RF :
http://youtu.be/T80zEeb-pCs?t=26s
Vettleson was a sandwich rounder out of high school in 2010 as a right fielder
with an above average arm, average power and advanced feel to hit from the left
side. He performed well at the A-Ball levels for Tampa Bay in 2012 and 2013,
but had some trouble tapping into his raw power in games, opting for more of a
contact approach. In 2014 after being traded to the Nats, Vettleson really
struggled at Double-A in a half season, regressing in almost every statistical
category. It would appear to be a terrible sign for his potential platoon/low
end everyday projection, but Vettleson missed two months with a broken hand a
couple weeks into the season and never really got going. He looked back to
normal in instructs and could be in line for a bounce-back 2015 at Double-A.
Vettleson是2010年高中毕业的三明治选秀右外野手,有above average arm, average
power ,站在左打区也有高阶球感。2012与2013年还在坦帕打1A时表现不赖,但无法好
好将raw power转换到比赛里;反之选择contact作为攻击策略。2014年交易到国民後在
2A总共打了半季左右却相当挣扎,所有攻击数据几乎都全面退化。对预期只能轮班或只
是末端先发野手的他来说是相当糟糕的徵兆。但Vettleson 开季才打两周就因为手伤休
息两个月也一直没能进入状况,之後在指导联盟表现看来是恢复正常。有希望於2015年
从2A开始触底反弹。
23. Jake Johansen, RHP :
http://youtu.be/_2dqOIZi2Yk?t=2m9s
Johansen was a 2nd rounder in 2013 out of Dallas Baptist as a giant 6’6/235
power arm that showed occasional feel for secondary stuff and command. He’s
still mostly that guy now, sitting 93-95 and running it up to 99 mph in short
stints with a cutter that’s solid average and a fringy curveball that flashes
55. The changeup and command are still a work in progress and this is probably
a 7th/8th inning guy, but some think Johansen is still growing into his frame
and starter traits will come out in the next couple years.
Johansen是2013年第二轮来自Dallas Baptist的power arm,六尺六寸235磅的身材十分
巨大。当时就偶尔能对command与第二球种stuff展现球感,到现在还是差不多那样。球
速93-95,少数时候会飙到99,有solid average cutter 跟有时55但通常只是堪用边缘
的curveball。changeup与command还在磨练。他也可能只是负责七八局的布局投手,但
还是有些人认为身体还在成长也拥有先发特性的Johansen未来几年内还是能长出来。
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