作者Alif (jkjk )
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标题Re: [情报] Lucas Giolito 球探报告
时间Thu Jun 7 13:57:40 2012
※ 引述《VaROne (One)》之铭言:
: Ht: 6-6
: Wt: 230
: B/T: R/R
: HS: Harvard Westlake
: HS Grad: 2012
: City: Santa Monica
: State: CA
: Country: United States
Giolito的基本资料:
身高:6尺6寸 体重:230磅 投/打:右投右打
高中:Harvard Westlake(2012应届毕)
出身:美国、加州、Santa Monica
: 1/17/12: If you are a believer in writing scripts before the event, the next
: six months of Lucas Giolito’s life, and indeed potentially the next 20
: years, is outstanding script material. Of course, Giolito is no stranger to
: scripts. His mother is well known actress Lindsay Frost, his father, Rick, is
: one of the icons of the computer game industry (former EA Vice President,
: co-founder of Trilogy Studios).
(本文於2012.1.17撰写)
如果你喜欢编剧本的话,未来半年,以至於未来的20年,Lucas Giolito的人生绝对是
很好的材料。他其实跟剧本这玩意儿并不陌生,因为他妈妈是知名演员Lindsay Frost,
而他爸更是电玩工业界的代表性人物。(前EA副总裁、Trilogy Studios创办人之一)
: For those who are serious about the draft, it's a well-known fact that there
: has never been a high school right handed pitcher picked with the first overall
: pick. That dates back to 1965 and encompasses many past (Ryan, Gossage, Sutter,
: Eckersley, etc) and future (Maddox, Smoltz, Hoffman, maybe Clemens, etc.) Hall
: of Famers and even more Cy Young Award winners. There have been some teases the
: past two years in Jamison Taillon (No. 2 overall in 2010) and Dylan Bundy
: (No. 4 in 2011) but the last really serious candidate was Josh Beckett in 1999,
: who went down to the wire with Josh Hamilton to be the then Tampa Bay Devil Rays
: top pick. The right series of events and circumstances has to come together
: just right to have a teenage right handed pitcher selected first overall.
: Having that type of talent is the first obvious criteria and Giolito
: unquestionably has that (more on that below).
有认真在关注选秀的人都知道,高校右投从来没有拿下过选秀状元。
从1965年开始的大联盟选秀,许多名人堂、准名人堂等级的投手,以及多位赛扬强投
都没能得到这项殊荣。前两年已经算很有机会的了,Jamison Taillon拿下2010第二顺位,
(按:因为对上了Harper^^!) Dylan Bundy则是拿下2011的第四顺位。
其实真正有机会的是1999年的Josh Beckett,可惜被Josh Hamilton抢走了魔鬼鱼(光芒)
的状元签。究竟谁有办法打破这(小)魔咒呢?
显然这个人必须是个天才,而Giolito就符合这样的标准,无庸置疑。
: But just as importantly, there has to be the right team, the right competitors
: (or lack thereof) for the pick and the right signability. The new CBA and the
: bonus slots should eliminate much of the major signability posturing and
: gamesmanship that can affect the top pick. The Astros, holders of the first
: pick, should have no inhibitions about picking Giolito based on their personnel
: (remember, new GM Jeff Luhnow picked Shelby Miller out of high school while
: with St. Louis and certainly enjoyed the benefits of having former HS first
: rounder Chris Carpenter on the Cardinals staff).
当然要完成这项成就,对的球团、当时的竞争新秀、签约可能性等等因素也很重要。
新的CBA规则以及签约金限制,让许多会原本会影响状元签的假动作和怪招被消除了。
拥有第一顺位选秀权的太空人队,应该可以在没有意外的状况下签下Giolito。(因为
太空人的新GM过去在金莺的时期就有挖掘高中新秀的倾向,例如:Carpenter)
: As for the comparisons for the top pick, I think it will come down to Giolito
: vs. Stanford’s Mark Appel. The advantage for Giolito (or potentially Appel
: for that matter) is that the scouting directors and cross checkers will
: frequently see both pitchers throw within a couple days of each other, maybe on
: back to back days, and be able to make an immediate comparison. They will see
: similar stuff, with the advantage potentially belonging to the pitcher who is
: almost exactly three years younger. Giolito’s baseball package is certainly
: without question. He’s a very young senior and won't turn 18 years old until
: after the July 13 signing deadline.
至於谁能和Giolito竞争呢?我觉得是史丹福大学的Appel。Giolito的优势(同时也是Appel
也具备的),就是各球团的球探经常到场看这两位新秀比赛,有时甚至是今天看完这位,
隔天紧接着看另一位,以便於他们做即时性的比较。他们应该会看到类似的投手特质,
不过Giolito赢在他比Appel几乎年轻了三岁。他的投球水准没问题,而他到7/13的签约
期限前还没满18岁呢!
: He's a well proportioned 6-foot-6, 240 pounds and really doesn't need to get
: that much stronger, just maintain his looseness and athleticism. If he were to
: get stronger while maintaining that looseness, that will be really scary. He
: threw a series of short outings this fall and was consistently in the 95-98
: mph range with his fastball….as in rarely falling below 95 mph, with reports
: of him touching 100. He works downhill very well with his fastball and while
: he could command the pitch better, he doesn't throw with much effort.
: Despite the incredible power behind his fastball, most everyone agrees that
: his best future pitch could be his curveball, just as Nolan Ryan's curveball
: was actually a nastier pitch than his 100 mph heater. He throws his
: traditional version of the pitch in the low-80s and it is deep and sharp, a
: true knee buckler for any hitter at any level when throw properly. He also
: has been working on developing a harder version of the pitch thrown in the
: 84-87 range that he calls his 'wipeout' curve. Giolito throws a change up on
: rare occasions but that isn't really a present consideration in evaluating
: him.
他的身材比例很好,6尺6寸,240磅,应该不必再练得更壮了,只要维持平常的休闲和
运动时间配置就可以。如果在这样的节奏下他还能练得更壮,那真是够吓人的了。
去年秋天赛季他投了几场,速球平均是95-98英哩,很少低於95,最高有到100英哩!
他不怎麽费力就可以把球速投出来,而且控球也不错。尽管他的球速展现相当的爆发力,
大多数人一致认为他未来最强的球种是曲球,就像名人堂强投Nolan Ryan的曲球实际上
比他100哩的速球更恶心是一样的状况。
Giolito的曲球球速可以压到80哩以下,变化幅度大而且犀利,投得好的话足以压制任何
打者。而他正在尝试一种的新的曲球,球速大约在84-87哩之间,他称之为
"wipeout curve"(请自由发挥^^)。
Giolito偶尔也会投一些变速球,不过目前并非大家关注的重点。
: When it gets right down to it, though, it might not be the Astros decision,
: it will be Giolito and his family's. The money, even at $7.2 million for the
: first pick, probably isn’t going to be a deciding factor. Giolito is a very
: good student and is the type of young man who could put the value of the
: college experience at UCLA above any other consideration. And it's certainly
: worth noting that Gerrit Cole entered UCLA in 2008 after turning down high
: first round money and emerged three years later as the first pick in the 2011
: draft. It will be a fascinating script all spring and into the early summer,
: that's for sure.
: http://www.perfectgame.org/Players/PlayerProfile.aspx?ID=268321
不过事情会怎麽发展,其实不见得会是太空人队可以决定的。Giolito本人和他的家人
才是关键。就算捧着7.2M并在第一顺位选中他,也不见得就能签下他。Giolito是一名
优秀的好学生,而且认为大学(UCLA)的人生经验对他而言是无可取代的。
当然,不久之前也有一个案例就是Gerrit Cole(2008第28顺位,但最後拒绝洋基的邀约),
他放弃了高额的选秀签约金而到UCLA就读,三年後被海盗队选中,拿下2011的选秀状元。
总之,接下来这几个月的剧情一定很精彩,我们接着看下去…
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1F:推 VaROne:push 06/07 14:09
2F:推 rhapsody70:国民这几年选秀都结果都不错 特别是小史跟Harper 06/07 16:56
3F:→ rhapsody70:两个都是真货 而且有话题又是即战力 还有不错的脸 06/07 16:56
4F:→ rhapsody70:这4~5年值得期待 06/07 16:57
5F:→ rhapsody70:有大大愿意提供一下这几年国民的选秀名单吗? 06/07 16:58
7F:推 ug945:我想这够详细了 06/07 17:03
8F:→ Alif:签得下来再说吧…大学生活虽然比较不精实,但叫你放弃你愿意? 06/07 17:23
9F:→ Alif:但如果是想走棒球这条路,为了肘伤,为了纪录,还是进国民吧! 06/07 17:26
10F:→ Alif:刚看了一下,原来Harper 17岁就跳进大学了…还有这招! 06/07 17:53
11F:推 ug945:harper那个不是一般的大学 应该是类似二专 06/07 18:01
12F:推 VaROne:CC=社区学院 06/07 18:08
13F:推 vg175:不少美国人都认为大学学位很重要 要为可能的将来准备退路 06/07 18:31
14F:→ vg175:不管是职业生涯结束退休後的人生规划 甚至根本没进过职业 06/07 18:32
15F:→ vg175:如果申请通过的大学还愿意提供高额奖学金 诱因就更大了 06/07 18:32
16F:推 ColbyRasmus:通常高中生的合约里面会要求大学奖学金 06/07 18:45
17F:→ ColbyRasmus:打到最後养不起来,还可以回学校读书 06/07 18:45