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标题[闲聊] Should They Sign Adam Dunn Long-Term?
时间Thu Mar 4 13:45:39 2010
这是国民非官方论坛Federal Baseball讨论Dunn的文章,
原文作者对於Dunn有诸多疑虑,虽然推崇他的打击Power,
但却非常担心他的防守。
原文有不少情绪性用词,所以我的翻译也会用比较... 嗯... 非正式的语法,
请不要介意,如果大家觉得不适当的话我再大E修文。
原文网址
http://tinyurl.com/ylefwvb
Washington Nationals: Should They Sign Adam Dunn Long-Term?
by Ed Chigliak on Mar 1, 2010 10:02 PM EST
The 2-year/$20 million dollar contract then-DC GM Jim Bowden offered
Adam Dunn last February had the hallmarks of all the bad Bowden
(pronounced bO-den) deals he'd made while running things in the nation's
capital, following the trade for Felipe Lopez and Austin Kearns, (both
former Reds like Dunn), the signing of another Cincy project, Wily Mo Pena,
and the two-year deals he gave to Ronnie Belliard, Dmitri Young and
Cristian Guzman, and it came with no one in baseball willing to come
close to what Washington was offering Dunn, which in the end is why
the 29-year-old 40 HR/100 RBI "guarantee" eventually ending up signing
in DC.
去年二月,当时的国民队总管Jim Bowden给了Dunn一张2年20M的合约,
这张合约也是Bowden任内签过的烂约里面最具代表性的其中一笔,
至於Bowden还干过哪些脑残的事,来来来,现在就报给你知:
1.从红人交易来F.Lopez和A.Kearns。
译者注: Lopez在WAS的成绩惨不忍睹... 2007 AVG.245 OPS.659
2008 AVG.234 OPS.619 (100场)
季中被送到红鸟。
然後,Lopez在红鸟的成绩... 2008 AVG.385 OPS.965 (43场)
Austin Kearns这两年在WAS成绩更惨,AVG都在2成上下而已。
去年底成为FA被笑脸人签下。
2.换来前红人球员Wily Mo Pena。
译者注: 这家伙也是很坎坷的,16岁时梅子要签,但没签成。
後来被洋基签下,18岁时被换到红人,红人视其为重要新秀!!
20岁在红人debut,一直被认为很有潜力,却一直没打出来。
'06年被红人换到红袜,'07年又被红袜换到国民。
'08年季後被国民释出,从此消失於MLB战场,时年26岁。
3.签下R.Belliard、Young大哥、C.Guzman。
译者注: Belliard在2008年成绩不错(OPS.845),可惜痛痛(?)出赛未满100场。
2009年就炸开了(OPS.670),然後就去了躲人。
他今年会随躲人来台湾跟中职联队打热身赛喔!!!
Young大哥就别说了,2009整年没有出赛纪录,成为FA待业中。
Guzman还是球队的先发游击手,但在Yahoo! SS Ranks排名第28。
我想大家都知道MLB总共有几队... 囧rz
在干完这些蠢事之後,Bowden向Dunn丢出了这张2年20M的合约,
当时全世界没有人愿意向Dunn开出相同等级的合约,
所以咧~ 这位几乎年年保证40HR/100RBI的选手才会选择与国民签约。
(译者注: 想当年PTT一堆人说Dunn才20M/2Y好便宜...
我到现在也还是觉得这个价码买一门炮很划算。)
After five straight seasons of at least 40 HR's, Dunn fell short of
forty last season, connecting on just 38 HR's in 159 games, though he
came closer to a .400 OBP (.398) than he's come since he finished at
.400 even in 2002 with the Reds. The 6'6'', 278lb Texas-born-and-raised
left-handed slugger played left as long as they would let him last year,
putting up a worst-ever UZR/150* of (-38.2) in 62 games in left field,
with a slightly less unsightly (-25.0) UZR/150 in 67 games at first.
(ed. note - "Don't ask about right field, it's in the (-40's) or
something."), but he quickly endeared himself to the DC Faithful with
the kind of power not seen since Frank Howard was turning RFK's seats
white. The kind of HR's that have always kept fans in seats since the
Senators of the 70's, waiting until that last AB's over just in case he
sends one out...Which is why the Washington Nationals are considering
signing Adam Dunn to an extension...
在连续五年打出40HR/100RBI+的成绩後('06年仅92RBI),
Dunn去年"只"干了38轰,但他的上垒率却来到接近四成(.398),
这是Dunn自从'02年在红人的.400以来,上垒率最高的一季。
这个6尺6寸,在德州土生土长的左手大炮去年有62场比赛担任左外野手。
UZR/150是史上最烂*的-38.2,而在他担任一垒手的67场比赛,
UZR/150是比较不难看一点点的-25.0,但仍旧很烂。
(原作者碎碎念: 你问我Dunn守右外野的数据??
不要问,很恐怖。UZR/150大概是-40.0之类的吧~)
不过他很快地用他的大棒子掳获了首都球迷的心,因为人人都爱大棒子。
毕竟首都球迷们在Frank Howard之後就再也没有看过这种等级的大棒子了。
想当年F.Howard的魅力可是经常让RFK球场座无虚席的咧~
(译者注: F.Howard於1965~1971年在华盛顿参议员队打球。
在1968~1970这三年分别打出44/48/44HR,入选All-Star Game,
OPS+为170/178/170,生涯OPS+则是142。)
像Dunn这种巨炮打者,就像70年代的参议员队,
总是可以把现场球迷留到最後,只因为球迷不愿错过他把球扛出去的爽感。
这也是为什麽华盛顿国民队会考虑跟Dunn签下延长合约...
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棒球小常识
UZR:= Ultimate Zone Rating
UZR的数字代表的是一个球员比一个该位置的平均球员多守下多少分,
也就是说,Dunn在2009年守左外野的UZR/150是-38.2,
代表如果让他站左外野150场,会比一个平均的左外野手多丢38.2分。
若想深入了解防守相关数据,请至下列网页。
http://anakinlai.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post_16.html
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The idea first came up, publically at least, during the Washington
Nationals' Hot Stove Lunch, when the team made the mistake (I'm kidding)
of letting the fans ask the Nationals' GM, team President and several
players anything they wanted in a public setting with members of the
print, radio, tv and internet media in attendance. Of course, one
enthusiatic Dunn fan asked DC GM Mike Rizzo, (as recounted by Washington
Post writer Chico Harlan in a Nationals Journal article entitled, "Adam
Dunn contract extension talk at Nationals hot stove lunch"), "...if
there was a timetable to extend Dunn's contract, because," the fan
continued, "we'd really like to see him retire as a National," and to
the surprise of many, (including this intrepid repor...writ..blah..uh?),
Mr. Rizzo responded:
"'It's something that we've discussed with Adam and his people...
We had a little conversation this afternoon about it. ... Seriously,
he's become one of the family. We love him here. He had a terrific
season for us last year, he's one of the most consistent players in
the league, and he's a guy that fits for us long-term.'"
(ed. note - "Seriously? Does the fact that Mr. Rizzo had to qualify
not strike anyone else as humorous?")
这个(延长合约)想法第一次出现,嗯... 至少是在公开场合第一次出现,
是在国民队与球迷、平面/广播/电视/网路记者们的一场Hot Stove午餐会里。
当时球队不知道为什麽犯脑残(开玩笑的别当真),居然让球迷自由提问,
而且是当着媒体的面,不论球迷想问球队总管、总裁还是球员问题都可以。
当然,这时候有一个狂热的Dunn迷对着总管Mike Rizzo发问了:
「请问球队有与Dunn签下延长合约的计画吗??」
「因为我们这些球迷都很希望看到Dunn穿着国民队的球衣退休喔!!」
(後来这段话被华盛顿邮报记者Harlan拿去在国民队期刊上大作文章,
还用了标题杀人法《国民队在热炉午餐会上大谈亚当蛋的延长合约》。)
语毕,众人大惊(包括了那位勇敢的记者... 编剧... 或是... 随便啦)。
对着受惊的众人,Rizzo回答:
「这件事我们早跟蛋哥还有他的人(经纪人?)讨论过了,」
「我们今天下午讲过一点点(译者: 啊不是还在午餐聚会??)」
「说实在的,蛋哥早就是我们这个大家庭的一份子了。」
「我们都爱他,也希望他在这。他去年给了我们一个很棒的球季,」
「而他又是整个大联盟里最稳定的选手之一,」
「我们当然希望他长长久久待在这里,他太适合我们了。」
(原文作者碎碎念: 真的假的啦?! Rizzo不是在跟我们开玩笑吧?!)
(译者注: Hot Stove指在寒冷的冬天里,因为没有棒球比赛可以看,
所以球迷只能聚在热烘烘的暖炉前聊一些关於棒球的事--
诸如球员签约、交易等球员动态与球队补强动作之类的事。)
At the time, Dunn cautioned that, "...it sounded a lot cooler up there
than it really was," telling Mr. Harlan, "We're just getting everything
going; kind of one of those deals." "One of those deals" today, became
the 30-year-old incumbent first baseman telling Nationals Insider's
Mark Zuckerman in a post entitled, "Dunn ready to commit", that he
wants to remain a National beyond this year, and as Mr. Zuckerman
writes, "...if Dunn had his way, he and the Nats would agree to a
long-term extension before the club breaks camp."
之後,Dunn被记者Harlan告知了这件事,「他讲的好像没什麽嘛...」Dunn说:
「嘿嘿~ 其实我们早就偷偷来了,哈~ 好啦~ 我们只是谈了一下,」
「啊谈合约不都是酱~」
嗯... 这句"谈合约不都是酱~"一到了记者(编剧)手上,马上就变成一篇报导了。
标题叫做《蛋哥准备好要签了!!》报导内容还说,根据国民球团内部消息,
国民队30岁现任一垒手蛋哥说他想要继续当个国民!!更猛的是,记者还写,
如果一切进行顺利,蛋哥将与国民队在春训前签下延长合约!!
It took Washington til the middle of April last year to finally agree
on the deal that will keep Ryan Zimmerman in Washington through
twenty-thirteen. Zimmerman signed a 5-year/$45 million dollar deal
to affirm his commitment to being part of what DC GM Mike Rizzo and
team President Stan Kasten are building. Does Adam Dunn fit into the
Nationals' long-term plans? Wait, Rizzo just said he did. Before he
signed in DC, Dunn was destined for retireme...uh, a DH role in the
American League, how many more years will he be able to produce at
this level? Shouldn't Rizzo get a bigger sample of his play at first
before deciding? Is that mean? Should Washington sign Adam Dunn to an
extension? How much will it take?
(ed. note - " * = I don't know if it was the worst ever, but it was
atrocious.")
(ed. note - "If you haven't seen Washington Post writer Adam Kilgore's
post entitled, "Adam Dunn takes the mound", you should have clicked
that link before finishing the sentence...because it looks like it
might be Strasburg and Dunn, one and two in the rotation in 2011.")
拜托... 去年国民队拖到四月中才跟当家球星Zimmerman签下延长合约,
让这位自产的明星三垒手可以在国民队至少待到2013年。
Zimmerman签下5年45M的长约,成为国民总管Rizoo与总裁Kasten打造球队的基石。
Dunn真的符合国民队的长期计画吗?? 好啦,Rizzo才刚说过他适合。
哇咧拜托咧... 在Dunn跟国民签约前(2008球季结束後Dunn成为FA),
他本来要退休... 喔说错了,他本来打算被美联球队签去打DH的耶~
(这表示什麽?? 这表示他根本就不能防守... )
他还能维持这样的打击成绩(40HR/100RBI)几年??
难道Rizoo不应该多看几场Dunn守一垒的表现再来决定要不要跟他签长约吗??
或者我们该问: 国民队应该跟Dunn签长约吗?? 签下去会有什麽後果??
(原文作者碎碎念: 好啦~ 我其实不确定Dunn在左外野的UZR是不是史上最烂,
但有差吗?? 这种数据已经烂透了~ 是不是史上最烂不重要了。)
(原文作者碎碎念: 如果你没看过华盛顿邮报专栏作家K大的大作--
那篇标题叫《Adam Dunn takes the mound》的文章,
那你真的该去看看内文,免得你光看标题,
还以为Strasburg跟Dunn会是国民队2011年的投手轮值咧!!)
译者注: 原来全世界的记者都一样... 断章取义外加标题杀人法...
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我个人认为,Dunn适合的合约长度大概在三年内(34岁以前),
虽然说他的选球很好,但毕竟他是一个Contact差的打者,
随着年纪越来越大,当他Power弱化,投手不再畏惧投好球给他打时,
Contact差的Dunn可能会很惨,原文作者的担忧不无道理。
他不像Todd Helton,Helton除了一垒防守比Dunn好很多以外,
Power消失还可以靠Contact弥补,但他的长约依旧带给洛矶队薪资上不小的压力。
不过看Dunn那种每一次挥棒都想把球打爆的感觉,还满爽的。
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