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作者: vigilante666 (vigilante666) 看板: NY-Yankees 标题: [外电] 为什麽洋基该聘请Ibanez当总教练 时间: Mon Nov 6 22:59:33 2017 原文恕删(包含奇怪符号) 这篇文是10/30的 已经有点时间 看完之後觉得分析的有一定道理 We’ve arrived at a strange juncture in baseball’s evolution, where, if the Y ankees actually did hire someone with any managing experience — even minor le ague, let alone major league — they’d be the exception to the new rule. 如果洋基真的聘请一位没有执教经验的教头 那麽这真的会开创一个先例 打破联盟成规 So if we disqualify (or at least minimize) managing experience from the list o f necessities, who checks the most remaining boxes? 如果不考虑执教经验(或是不那麽看重) 谁会是候选人当中的最有力竞争者? Raul Ibanez checks quite a few. At the least, the Yankees should consider him as a serious candidate as long as he’s interested. Actually, given the amount of times Brian Cashman has reached out to Ibanez for a reunion since Ibanez’ s enjoyable 2012 in pinstripes, and given the qualities that Cashman appears t o be prioritizing in his search for Joe Girardi’s successor, it would be surp rising if the Yankees’ general manager didn’t contemplate Ibanez. Ibanez想必会是其中之一。 只要他有兴趣,洋基有必要将他纳入考量。 事实上12年赛季结束後,现金人就多次接触Iba鎑z表达再次合作的意愿况且现金人将Gira di接班人视为第一要务要是不考虑Ibanez将会非常令人惊讶。 Look at the manager hires made so far this winter: The Tigers went old-school, bringing in their former AL Central rival Ron Gardenhire, who led the Twins f rom 2002 through 2014. Then the Mets hired Mickey Callaway and the Red Sox Ale x Cora, neither of whom has managed a professional game. On Sunday, the Nation als reportedly hired Dave Martinez, who shares Callaway’s and Cora’s complet e lack of a track record, while the Phillies reportedly hired Gabe Kapler, who managed one season in the low minor leagues. 看看目前各队有的新教头: 除了老虎聘请Ron Gardenhire,像是梅子聘请Mickey Callaway、隔壁袜袜聘请Alex Cora 。 实际上他们都没有正式执教过任何一场职业比赛。而国民聘请Dave Martinez也是一样。 至少费城人请的Gabe Kapler执教过低阶比赛。 Now, Callaway and Martinez both spent multiple years as major league coaches, and Cora is finishing up his one season as the Astros’ bench coach before mov ing to Boston. Ibanez hasn’t spent a day in uniform since his 2014 retirement as a player, choosing instead to prioritize time with his family. He can over come that deficiency, assuming he’s willing to go back to baseball full-time, for many reasons. Here are a few: Callaway&Martinez两人都在大柠檬当过教练,Cora也刚完成他在色人板凳教练的工作。 但是Ibanez自从14年宣布退休之後就再也没有身着制服过,他选择花更多时间与家人相处 如果他选择再次投身全职与棒球有关的工作,他毫无疑问可以胜任,有以下原因: 1) He hasn’t been a coach, but he has been a “coach.” In his final years as a player, Ibanez naturally took it upon himself to help younger players. Memb ers of the pennant-winning 2014 Royals pointed to a players-only meeting Ibane z called as the season’s turning point. That postseason, from the AL Division Series onward, Ibanez wasn’t active but sat on the bench, working as a “che erleader,” in his words — and viewing those most important games from a diff erent perspective. 1. 虽然他没当过教练,可是他当过队上的心灵导师以及传授年轻球员经验。14年夺冠的 皇家当中有球员指出,认为那年Ibanez在队上是很重要的一个转折点。虽然整个季後赛都 没上场,但是他在板凳上当啦啦队长,提供球员经验,提供年轻球员看待这种大比赛的不 同的观点。 2) He’s bilingual. Born in New York (not a bad touch for the narrative) and g rowing up in Miami as the son of Cuban emigres, Ibanez speaks both Spanish and English comfortably. How nice it would be for Baby Bombers like Gary Sanchez, Luis Severino and Gleyber Torres to converse comfortably with their manager i n their native tongue? 2. 他精通英文&西班牙文。由於出身背景的关系,Ibanez说得一口流利的英文&西班牙文 。倘若他能够直接与374、Severino、Torres等人直接沟通,这将是多麽美好的一件事? 3) He possesses front-office experience. Ibanez, 45, has been a special assist ant to Dodgers general manager Farhan Zaidi since last year. He has been invol ved in scouting for the amateur draft, trade discussions and much more. With a ll this talk of collaborative work environments, you could argue that Ibanez’ s front-office work — particularly with the Dodgers, in many ways the Yankees ’ West Coast equivalent — carries more value than, say, a year as a bench co ach. 3. 他有过在高层的工作经验。自从去年以来, Ibanez就在道奇GM Zaidi手下当特助。他有过观察年轻球员、参与交易决策的经验。在这 种环境下工作,尤其道奇就好比西岸的洋基一般,这种工作经验绝对胜过当一年的板凳教 练。 4) His Yankees identity. Perhaps I’m just being a stick in the mud, but I sti ll believe that a “name,” someone with some Yankees credibility, will be an easier sell to both the players and the fan base. Ibanez’s Yankees tenure was brief yet memorable. His performance in Game 3 of the 2012 AL Division Series , when he hit both a game-tying homer in the ninth inning and a walk-off blast in the 12th, offered evidence moving forward that he won’t crumble in big mo ments. 4. 他身上有着洋基基因。或许这样讲有点一厢情愿,但是一个有着洋基基因的人选或许 会更容易被球员甚至球迷接受。Ibanez在洋基的经验虽然短暂但是却令人难以忘怀。12年 ALDS G3,他先是在9下敲出追平阳春炮,然後又在延长赛送出再见阳春炮。这些都表明他 能够在重大时刻顶住巨大压力做好工作。 5) His media experience. Ibanez spent time the last few years broadcasting for FOX and ESPN. If he can’t match Joe Torre’s mastery of the news conference, he’d radiate more warmth than Girardi did. 5. 过去几年Ibanez花了些时间在FOX与ESPN播报比赛。或许他没办法像Joe Torre那样在 记者会上应对自如,但是至少他会做的比Giradi好上不少。 After 2012, the Yankees passed on re-signing Ibanez as a free agent because th ey went on austerity kick. The Yankees reached out again after 2013, however, when Ibanez had played for Seattle (Ibanez signed with the Angels), and after his retirement in 2014 to discuss the Yankees’ hitting coach vacancy. 12赛季结束後洋基没有与Ibanez续约,因为他们决定压低薪资走简朴路线。13赛季後洋基 有与之联系(那时Ibanez结束与水兵的合约,最後14赛季在猴子打球)14赛季结束後洋基 也有与他讨论打的空缺。 Ibanez intrigues baseball people like Cashman. It’s his history. Could Ibanez and Cashman make history together? It’s worth another conversation to find o ut. 究竟Ibanez与现金人能否再续前缘,这真是一个值得关注与讨论的话题。 文章出处: https://www.google.com.tw/amp/nypost.com/2017/10/30/why-yankees-should-conside r-raul-ibanez-as-next-manager/amp/ --



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※ 文章网址: https://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/NY-Yankees/M.1509980703.A.1A4.html ※ 编辑: vigilante666 (89.204.130.215), 11/06/2017 23:06:42
1F:推 pink80109 : 同样跟古巴有关系,Ibanez也可以直接跟Chapman沟通 11/06 23:09
2F:→ pink80109 : ,相信Chapman至少听到西文,会更信服一点11/06 23:09
3F:推 ohmyya : 试试看11/06 23:11
4F:推 starain : 会做的比乔拉迪好?这评价对一场未教的人有点太捧了 11/06 23:33
5F:推 jeffhill : 单指应对媒体吧.. 11/06 23:40
是单指应对媒体没错喔
6F:推 richard1003 : 新教练那边翻错了,没经验是指後面那两个11/06 23:42
7F:→ richard1003 : Gardenhire是老资深教练了11/06 23:42
感谢,已改 ※ 编辑: vigilante666 (89.204.130.215), 11/07/2017 00:06:54
8F:推 giancarloye : 推推 11/07 00:06
9F:→ juchenliu : 没执教经验,风险太高了 11/07 00:09
10F:推 ELF007 : 几亿美金的生意 没经验风险高到破表 11/07 00:18
11F:推 lovewhite : Iba鎑z 有乱码 11/07 00:20
12F:推 kevininla : 还是很好奇会找谁 11/07 00:26
13F:推 V66 : 老吴 一把镊子!这名字实在太让人意外 11/07 00:42
14F:→ jim12441 : 金莺:叫你总仔出来....没事 11/07 00:44
15F:推 sbmylife : Jerry Hairston Jr现在蛮多人传的 11/07 01:06
16F:推 JessicaA1ba : 修瓦特最怕的男人 11/07 04:06
17F:推 chaolin : 题外话 MLB the Show 2018'的封面是法官! 11/07 06:13
18F:推 yuenwwjd : 一把奶子~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!!! 11/07 16:05
19F:推 nick2428 : 忘不了对金鹰季後赛的追平於再见轰 一棒你死! 11/08 00:17
20F:推 mark2326 : 要捧lbanez可以 可是贬吉总没必要 11/08 12:10
21F:→ mark2326 : 吉总好歹证明过将拼装车年年带到五成胜率 11/08 12:11
22F:→ mark2326 : 也证明过将一群新秀带进美联冠军赛殊死战 11/08 12:11
23F:推 mark2326 : 吉总还有一座世界大赛冠军 很多优秀总教练终其执教 11/08 12:13
24F:→ mark2326 : 生涯一座也没有 11/08 12:13
25F:推 tdkandrh : 希望不要过捧 11/08 15:31
26F:推 frank94 : 也没有人在贬吉总吧 11/08 17:16
27F:→ frank94 : Cashman记者会说吉总无法跟球员处的融洽 11/08 17:19
28F:→ frank94 : 然後球队要往新的方向走 所以没有续约 11/08 17:21
29F:→ frank94 : 不是说他过去带的不好 而是球队认为未来可以更好 11/08 17:24
30F:→ frank94 : 而这篇原文甚至也没提到吉总啊………… 11/08 17:28
31F:推 sylviehsiang: 09年的冠军是靠三本柱热血特攻 AROD只手遮天 11/08 17:50
32F:→ sylviehsiang: 松井我是你老爸打来的 根本看不到老吉的功力 11/08 17:51
33F:→ sylviehsiang: 老吉被火有两种原因 1.给你十年了 11/08 17:51
34F:→ sylviehsiang: 2. 谁叫你第一年就拿冠军 印象分数顶多打平不会增加 11/08 17:52
35F:→ charlie01 : 呃 首先拿冠军是第二年 第一年还没进季後赛 11/08 18:34
36F:→ charlie01 : 然後你这样的说法太有趣了 照这逻辑应该没有冠军是 11/08 18:36
37F:→ charlie01 : 靠教练功力不是靠球员的 11/08 18:36
38F:→ charlie01 : 原因球团和媒体都有或曲或直的说了 不必延伸太多 11/08 18:37
39F:推 loveeve : 所以老王 有没有机会 回洋基当投手教练 XD 11/09 00:19
40F:→ sunnei : 没有。 11/09 00:46
41F:→ appshjkli : 机会0 11/09 01:11
42F:→ AHEAD099 : 自己都调整不好了还要去调整别人的投球吗 11/09 08:14
43F:→ ypw : 结论:拿冠军都是球员爆发 没拿冠军都是教练调度 11/09 12:24
44F:推 atriple : 老吉的RP使用方式和野手轮休制度真的不错。 11/09 18:45







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