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有大大指正~ 我稍微改一下, 免得误会 ※ 引述《appshjkli (Red Spider Lily)》之铭言: : http://0rz.tw/9c5gL : Posted by: Ben K. in Polls. Tagged: Xavier Nady : As the Yanks head into Spring Training, they may or may not have a roster : with too many outfielders for too few spaces. Johnny Damon is entrenched in : left field and the lead-off spot while Brett Gardner and Melky Cabrera will : seemingly battle it out for center field. In right, Nick Swisher and Xavier : Nady offer the Yanks a plethora of platoon options with Hideki Matsui as the : DH. 左外 Damon 当然人选 中外 Gardner/Cabrera 两个小朋友去争 (哈,ok不ok? 你说呢=.=) 右外 Swisher/Nady 再加上Matsui, 变化很多样, DH会很挤 : The Yanks could look to trade an outfielder. Damon wouldn’t — and probably : shouldn’t — be the one to go while no team would take on Hideki without a : guarantee that his knees could hold up. So that leaves Swisher and Nady as : the potential trade bait. Swisher had a seemingly poor 2008, but luck had a : big role in suppressing his numbers. He also has a better track record than : Nady. 洋基可以卖掉一个外野, Damon表现优秀. 应该不会卖 松井的膝盖伤, 卖相不好 (他还有NTC勒) Swisher and Nady两个卖相好很多! 前者在08年打得很烂, 但是运气不会一直这麽背吧? 而且就纪录上来说, Swisher比Nady来得好 (Nady今年算是career high) : But no one seems to generate more discussion than Nady as the Yanks shop : their outfielders. In answering some mail this week, Steve Goldman opined : about Nady: : What happened to the Yankees’ fondness of Xavier Nady? It seemed like when : they got him, the organization really liked him. But now they’re thinking of : trading him? Trading away a .305 AVG, 25 HR and 97 RBI from an offense that : had trouble scoring runs last year? Does that even make sense? –Tucker : It makes a ton of sense, Tucker, because Nady isn’t really a .305 hitter. In : his career, he’s been far closer to the hitter he cooled from his hot : pinstriped start, a .268/.320/.474 hitter. As far as corner outfield : production goes, it’s subpar. If Nick Swisher gets back on track this year, : he’ll get on base much closer to 40 percent of the time and show comparable : power. The value in Nady last season was that he was a huge in-season upgrade : on Melky Cabrera, who he displaced from the lineup by allowing Johnny Damon : to go back to center. That was a very nice move by Brian Cashman to staunch a : bleeding wound, but Nady isn’t someone a championship team plans on : starting. 在洋基众外野中, Nady的询问度最高 .305 AVG, 25 HR and 97 RBI 洋基真的要把他卖掉吗?(这里是讨论...没有褒贬意味) Steve Goldman的说法: Nady在刚来纽约的火热手感以後 之後就冷掉了 (.268/.320/.474 这看起来像是个CF的表现) 他并不是一个真正的三成打击率的选手 如果Nady09年还是在洋基, 他的上垒率会更向 .4 靠近 上季Nady的表现就像是加强版的Melky Cabrera 或许可以考虑让Nady取代Cabrera, 然後Damon回到中外野 (成为Nady/Damom/Swisher的外野阵容?) (这一段翻译, 可以见下一篇的说法) 无论如何, Nady并不是一只要抢世界冠军队伍的首选 : Meanwhile, one of the various Steve’s who read RAB wrote in with this take : on the X Man: : He’s one of the more misunderstood players on the Yanks, with many believing : “he had a fluke year” and “he’s a NL player,” both of which are : demonstrably false. Nady是个被洋基球迷误解的选手 许多人都认为他去年的表现是侥幸, 他只是个NL的选手 (这句我照翻喔,别问我) 但这些都已经被证实是错误的 : Check out the progression Nady has made over the past 5 years, especially vs : righties. (The numbers are BA/OBP/SLG/OPS.) : 2004 : AVG OBP SLG OPS : vs R .178 .213 .311 .524 : vs L .344 .417 .563 .979 : 2005 : vs R .223 .270 .431 .700 : vs L .323 .400 .452 .852 : 2006 : vs R .263 .312 .424 .736 : vs L .336 .418 .551 .969 : 2007 : vs R .274 .322 .479 .802 : vs L .295 .356 .463 .819 : 2008 : vs R .317 .357 .529 .886 : vs L .262 .361 .444 .805 : He has steadily improved from being a platoon player who only hit lefties, to : one who hit righties better than lefties last season. Even if that was a peak : year for him, if he was to revert to his 2007 line he would still be a fine : everyday player and a good replacement for Abreu, especially when you factor : in his value as a (slightly better than league average) fielder, and Abreu : being the worst RF in the AL by most measures. Nady过去五年, 稳定的成长 他面对左投表现比较好(去年情况刚好相反) 他去年的确是生涯高峰 但就算他回到07年的表现, 他还是值得天天出赛, 而且是取代Abreu的好人选 Nady是个(比联盟平均稍微好一点)的外野手 而Abreu的表现, 被认为是AL最糟糕的RF : Now to the AL/NL stuff: : 2007 : 1st Half .291 .344 .504 .848 : 2nd Half .255 .303 .425 .728 : 2008 : 1st Half .321 .377 .525 .901 : 2nd Half .284 .333 .492 .825 : The middling second half he had leads many Yankee fans to believe that he’s : “not an AL player,” but he actually had a similarly weak (.80 drop off in : OPS both years) 2nd half in 2007 in the NL, which could say something about : his conditioning or training regimen, but not the league. It’s also worth : noting that he only became a full time player in 2008 (607 PAs), he had about : 500 PAs in 2007/2006 and 356 PAs in 2005. Again, he is progressing from a : platoon player to an everyday player. : So what will it be? Should the Yankees trade Xavier Nady? I’d be inclined to : keep him as a fourth outfielder, long his traditional role, and if Swisher : falters, they have a Plan B. He provides a lot of pop off the bench, and the : Yanks don’t need to trade him right now. : Let’s open the floor on this debate with an ever-popular poll, and feel free : to use this post as tonight’s open thread. 洋基应该交易Nady吗? 或许可以把他留着当 4th OF 他可以作为Swisher表现不好时的备案 留着他对板凳强度有很大的提昇 洋基不需要急着把他卖掉 (留着看有人想被抢 科科) -- 我自己还满喜欢Nady的 希望别被交易喽 ~ --



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◆ From: 140.114.56.230
1F:推 jeffhill:马姿仪右外....... 01/02 13:20
2F:推 richardcyl:关於Goldman那段你翻译的内容有些问题.... 01/02 13:23
3F:推 redsnipertd:我觉得两个小朋友超不ok的 01/02 13:31
4F:推 yamatai:Nady 应该去换哪个位置来呢? 中外野,捕手还是RP? 01/02 14:08
5F:推 jayin07:中外野最好 01/02 14:10
6F:→ jayin07:RP我们有一堆...... 01/02 14:10
7F:→ OoyaoO:能换个可以站100场以上+打击在平均以上的CF最好 01/02 14:10
8F:→ OoyaoO:David Dejesus是我看一看觉得可交易机会最大的 01/02 14:11
9F:推 namdoogmi:中外就大门吧,垃圾时间或比赛後段在叫小朋友吃局数 01/02 14:14
10F:推 yamatai:KCR 有把Dejesus交易的意思吗? 01/02 14:20
11F:→ yamatai:这种便宜又好用的中外野手大家抢着要吧 01/02 14:21
12F:推 redsnipertd:其实能弄个捕手来也不错 01/02 14:28
13F:推 jayin07:Dejesus站CF喔... 01/02 14:31
14F:→ OoyaoO:我是认为有机会啦 因为他们刚交易了COCO这种守备好的CF过去 01/02 14:32
15F:→ jayin07:Dejesus都快站不住CF了... 01/02 14:34
16F:推 jayin07:不知道他今年是有伤还是怎样... 01/02 14:37
17F:推 roger744:中外 Gardner/Cabrera 两个小朋友去争很不ok 01/02 14:37
18F:推 appshjkli:A-Jax能早日发挥他5-tool的潜力就不用烦恼这些了- - 01/02 14:51
19F:→ OoyaoO:我是想说Dejesus约也到2010结束 A-jax目前好像不会在2010 01/02 14:57
20F:→ OoyaoO:就上来 所以交易过来刚刚好XD 反正他们也缺便宜角落OF 01/02 14:57
21F:推 meier0112:换Dejesus守CF,不如给Swisher守CF 01/02 15:56
22F:→ meier0112:且皇家也不缺OF,除非他们GM又想收集球来就打的打者 01/02 15:59
23F:→ rayven:松井只能摆DH跟板凳,叫他守备对球队球迷跟他本身都是折磨 01/02 16:23
※ 编辑: chanli 来自: 140.114.56.230 (01/02 17:16)
24F:→ chanli:两个小朋友的表现不佳是事实 但也不可能一直不练他们 01/02 17:18
25F:推 alphameric:Nady只是个NL的选手 (这句我照翻喔,别问我) XDDDDDDDDD 01/02 17:31
26F:→ appshjkli:科科,不练他们?那两个又不是像Hughes有ceiling有tool 01/02 18:02
27F:→ appshjkli:何况你知道我们给了Melky多少给AB让他来证明吗?1438AB 01/02 18:04
28F:→ appshjkli:最後只证明了Melky的打击就是个4th OF 01/02 18:04
29F:推 viro72:松井曾说过 不排斥被交易 所以NTC可以不用特别强调 01/02 23:10
30F:推 jayin07:松井又贵又老又伤 01/02 23:16
31F:→ jayin07:国联没有DH可以给他打 01/02 23:16
32F:→ jayin07:假设他没办法打出他以前的水准,那美联也不会找一个 01/02 23:17
33F:→ jayin07:贵,但只有平均水准的DH来给自己找麻烦 01/02 23:17
34F:→ jayin07:除了Full-NTC,有没有人要还是另外一回事 01/02 23:18
35F:→ jayin07:不然就是吃薪水 01/02 23:18
36F:推 GDBS:市场上有Dunn,Giambi,Abreu等 贵了点但打得较好还能上场守备 01/02 23:41
37F:→ GDBS:应该等这些FA都签完了才可能有人考虑Matsui吧 虽然还是不容易 01/02 23:42
38F:推 meier0112:Pat Burrell又被遗忘了,至少也是30HR100BB阿XD 01/02 23:47
39F:推 djcc:Gardner/Cabrera可以丢了 OF留Swisher/Nady/Damon跟松井足以 01/03 03:07
40F:→ appshjkli:啊,是还不用丢当替补还可以;但是要先发的话就免了 01/03 03:08







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