作者leddy (耿秋)
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标题Re: [新闻] New York Yankees' Joba Chamberlain t …
时间Thu Aug 7 16:16:44 2008
※ 引述《leddy (耿秋)》之铭言:
: 洋基队已经宣布Joba Chamberlain是肩膀"旋转袖肌键炎",而且在重新评估可否作传球
: 练习前大约要休息一周。(但Peter Abraham却表示"肌键炎"经常是形容旋转袖肌轻微撕裂
: 伤一种美好的说法)。
1F:推 frank94:我想问: 肌键炎是形容轻微肌肉撕裂伤--这有啥大不了的???08/07 14:35
2F:→ frank94:我没记错的话 作重训也会有肌肉撕裂现象08/07 14:36
3F:→ frank94:肌肉会变大是因为癒合时多长了点肉出来08/07 14:37
4F:→ frank94:肌肉"轻微"撕裂伤导致发炎 只是比这在严重一些 08/07 14:38
这是在waswatching.com上的看法
洋基队表示Joba Chamberlain是"旋转袖肌键炎"。
治疗的方式可能只需要一些休息然後在加上抗发炎的治疗。或者,或许,可能需要一
些关节镜手术。後面的这种治疗的建议是waswatching.com的想法 -- 别担心不是出自洋
基队现在的说法。
然後还要知道,有时候 "旋转袖肌键炎" 是个相当不好的新闻。Mark Fidrych 22岁时
患上这伤势 -- 再也没办法维持以往的成绩(注)。前酿酒人的Jeff D' Amico 25岁时同样
也有这伤势 -- 他24岁时打出了超级风光的球季 -- 但是这伤势毁了他的棒球生涯。Kris
Benson 28岁时同样患上这毛病,从此成绩直直落。而25岁的Mark Prior也同样患上了同
样的伤势 -- 虽然患上这伤势前他原本就是容易受伤的类型。而且,Waswatching.com也
相信野茂英雄也因为这伤势,虽然受伤时他已经35岁了,而受了这伤之後他就再也威不起
来了。
注: 老虎队投手Mark Fidrych 1976年 21岁时大联盟初登板,31上场29先发,就拿下了19
胜9败,ERA 2.34的成绩(K/9 3.49, BB/9 1.91,WHIP 1.08, luck??)的恐怖成绩。22岁时
11先发拿下6胜4败,ERA 2.89的成绩(K/9 4.67, BB/9 1.33, Whip 1.16),结果患上了旋
转袖肌键炎後结束了那个球季。之後再也无法回到原本的身手後,尤其1979年後控球更是
有问题,BB/K几乎变成了1:1。1981年後他就再也没有回到大联盟了。
Buster Onley 4年前便作了最好的解释,肌键炎:就像发炎一样,有说和没说差不了多少
。肌键炎是一种症状,而不是问题的来源; 就好像是说一个球员在流鼻水一样,却没有说
他为什麽会流鼻水。 “你说一个球员患了肌键炎,可能是因为他膝盖的软骨移位。你说
一个投手有肌键炎,他可能是患了严重的撕裂伤。当你深究下去的话,肌键炎可能会涵盖
到轻微到很严重的伤势。”
Buster Olney said it best, four years ago -
Tendinitis: Like inflammation, it says something and says nothing. Tendinitis
is a symptom, rather than the source of the problem; it’s like saying a
player has a runny nose, rather than addressing why he has a runny nose. “
You say a player has tendinitis and what might really be going on is that he
has loose cartilage in his knee,” said one executive. “You say a pitcher
has tendinitis, and it might be that he’s got a serious tear. When you get
right down to it, tendinitis could cover any number of things.”
The Yankees are saying that Joba Chamberlain has “rotator cuff tendinitis.”
Treatment may just be a matter of rest and anti-inflammatory medication. Or,
perhaps, it may require some arthroscopic surgery. That latter suggestion is
mine - and not something coming from the Yankees now.
Then again, sometimes “rotator cuff tendinitis” is very bad news. Mark
Fidrych had it when he was 22-years old - and never was the same. Former
Brewer Jeff D’Amico had it when he was 25-years old - and coming off a super
season as a 24-year old - and it ruined his career. Kris Benson had it when
he was 28-years old - and it was all downhill for him from there. Mark Prior
had it when he was 25-years old and that was the end for him - although he
was injury-prone before that. And, I believe that Hideo Nomo had it, albeit
as a 35-year old, and he was then cooked.
Buster Olney said it best, four years ago -
Tendinitis: Like inflammation, it says something and says nothing. Tendinitis
is a symptom, rather than the source of the problem; it’s like saying a
player has a runny nose, rather than addressing why he has a runny nose. “
You say a player has tendinitis and what might really be going on is that he
has loose cartilage in his knee,” said one executive. “You say a pitcher
has tendinitis, and it might be that he’s got a serious tear. When you get
right down to it, tendinitis could cover any number of things.”
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5F:推 frank94:所以"旋转袖肌键炎"根本就说明不了什麽罗 08/07 16:30
6F:推 WillWaiting:rotator cuff是旋转肌.... 08/07 16:30
7F:→ frank94:假如是旋转袖肌"轻微"撕裂伤 那倒是还好 08/07 16:31
8F:推 visionwind:简而言之 就是不知道...要看MRI吧 08/07 16:36
9F:推 Benitez:投手最怕的伤阿...希望不严重 08/07 16:42
10F:→ leddy:医师都说叫"旋转袖肌"了... 08/07 16:45
12F:→ leddy:翻之前我会先google... 不要一直急着要来订正细节... 08/07 16:48
13F:→ leddy:话说小王的脚也包含肌腱轻微撕裂伤... 08/07 16:56
14F:推 yyhong68:投手最怕应该是关节唇受伤,不过旋转肌受伤也不能小看就是 08/07 17:41
15F:推 abing75907:好不容易终於有个堪用的先发新秀 不会又要掰了吧>< 08/07 17:42
16F:→ siliver:抓去彻底检查修养吧,Joba可是洋基未来的宝啊..... 08/07 17:43
17F:→ kenro:千万别是关节唇方面...不然就惨了.. 08/07 18:01
18F:推 aozakisora:可以好好养伤是还好 问题是现在SP轮值残破不堪 怕是跟 08/07 18:05
19F:→ aozakisora:POSADA一样 休息没多久没全好就上 投几场後彻底再见 08/07 18:06
20F:→ aozakisora:如果甘乃迪跟盖斯能顶住的话 应该就不用急着回来 08/07 18:07
21F:→ aozakisora:问题是这两个有一个能顶住就不错了...Orz 08/07 18:07
22F:→ molukino:关节唇...跟曹一样嘛? 08/07 18:45
23F:推 schrei:是的楼上 号称投手绝症 08/07 21:01
24F:推 a5896:神之右手..... 08/07 22:01
25F:推 AGZ:里面提到野茂的过去 借转Asian-MLB 08/07 23:05