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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/05/05/2008-05-05_ joba_chamberlain_will_keep_same_job.html Joba Chamberlain will keep same job BY ANTHONY McCARRON DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Monday, May 5th 2008, 7:44 PM 张伯伦续留牛棚 Each day, as he warms up in the bullpen or shags batting practice fly balls, Joba Chamberlain hears differing opinions from fans about whether he should be a reliever or a starter. 每天张伯伦在牛棚热身,或捡拾打击练习的高飞球时,都会听到球迷对他应该担任救援或者 先发投手的不同意见. "It's about the same amount on either one," Chamberlain said. "It gives people something to talk about. I make conversation." 张伯伦说: 两种意见人数差不多,我成为话题,让大家有些事情可以讨论. Right now, those fans who want Chamberlain to remain Mariano Rivera's setup man are getting their wish. Even with tumult in the Yankee rotation - Phil Hughes is out because of a broken rib and Ian Kennedy was demoted to the minors - Chamberlain is staying in the bullpen for now, though the Yankees are planning an eventual transition. 目前,那些希望张伯伦留下来担任 Rivera 中继 setup 投手的人愿望实现.尽管洋基先发 轮值一团乱 ( Hughes 因肋骨受伤退出, Kennedy 也已下放小联盟 ),尽管最终要让他转入 先发,张伯伦暂且还是留任牛棚. When? They're not saying. It's all connected to Chamberlain's innings limit for the season, which is the closest thing to a pinstriped state secret. Asked why they wouldn't quicken Chamberlain's move in light of the rotation trouble, GM Brian Cashman said, "Because the innings limits are the innings limits. 何时转先发? 没有清楚答案.一切都关联到张伯伦本球季的局数限制,这几乎快成为洋基王 国的国家机密了. 有人问 Cashman 先发轮值问题那麽多,是否可以让张伯伦加快脚步, Cashman 说: 局数限制就是局数限制. "If I speed him up now, he'll hit his innings limits before the end of the season and no one wants to see him shut down before that, do they? We're not going to put him over. That's why we have a plan we're sticking to, so we can have a player for a full season in various roles." 我加快他的脚步,那他在球季结束之前就会到达到限制局数,没人希望他被停赛吧? 为了不 让他越过局数限制,我们必须照计画进行,这样他就可以担任各种角色打一个完整的球季. But what would it take for Chamberlain to "get extended," as he put it and be ready to start? "It's the difference between throwing 10-20 pitches and throwing 80-110," Chamberlain said. "You might attack guys differently, because you're going to face them more than once, But it's mostly making sure you get your arm extended." 那要怎样才能让张伯伦"充分伸展"(张伯伦说法)做好先发准备呢? 张伯伦说: 这是投10-12 球与投80-100球的不同,你必须用不同的方式对付打者,因为你将不止一次面对他们,但最重 要的要确保你手臂伸展. Here's a look at how Chamberlain could do it, based on a hypothetical innings limit of 150. Generally, teams add 10-15 pitches per outing to a reliever's highest total for the season when extending him. Chamberlain threw 33 pitches against the White Sox on April 24, so, assuming the Yanks use that as a base, it would take four or five starts for him to build up to around 95 pitches. pitching every five days would mean he'd need as much as a month in the minors to get ready 我们来看看张伯伦要怎样才办得到,假设他的投球局数限制是150局,一般来说,球队要伸展 一个救援投手会以他球季的最高投球数为基准,每次出场让他多投 10-15 球.张伯伦4月24 日对白袜投出了 33 球,洋基若以此为基准,那他就需要先发 4-5 场,才能扩充到每场95球, 以投一休四来算,那他就必须在小联盟花一个月的时间才能完成准备. Those minor-league innings - or long relief innings or short starts in the majors, if that's how the Yankees choose to extend him - would be added to his total for the season and cut down on the number he could throw as a starter. Right now, he's got 12-1/3 innings out of the bullpen and his outings to get extdnded mighty add 24 or so more. 小联盟的局数,大联盟长期救援局数或短先发局数,都会算进他的球季用掉的局数,而缩减了 他先发还能投的局数,到目前为止,他在牛棚投的局数是 12 又 1/3 局, 他伸展需要的局数 可能还需要 24 或更多局数. Its unclear what his innings limit is, but most gusses are around 150. Chamberlain's career high in innings in one season is the 119 he threw at Nebraska as a sophomore. But he added 37-2/3 more innings in the Hawaiian Winter League. Last year, he threw 112 innings between the majors and minors. 他的局数限制是多少还不清楚,一般猜测是 150 局, 张伯伦生涯单季最高投球局数是他 Nebraska 大学二年级投出的 119 局.冬季联盟还多投了 37 又 2/3 局. 去年他大小联盟 局数加起来总共是 112 局. So if Chamberlain started to get extended immediately, he'd likely be in the retation around mid-June and if he had around 36 innings under his belt, he'd theoretically have 114 more to burn in three and a half months, not including the playoffs. If he got 20 starts in the time, he'd have to average fewer than six innings per start to be in danger of being shut down. Not even Hank Steinbrenner's impatience can push the Yankees'baseball brain trust to rush Chamberlain into the rotation. 因此,如果现在就开始张伯伦伸展计画,那他可能六月中旬就能加入先发轮值,用掉局数若 为 36 局,那麽理论上他球季末三个半月还有 114 局可以用,不包括季後赛. 这段期间如 果有 20 场先发,那麽每场他将不能投到六局,不然会有被迫停赛的危险.这也是为什麽小 老板再怎麽没耐心,也无法逼球队智囊团仓促将张伯伦转入先发的道理. Of course, the question of whether the Yankees can afford to take him out of the bullpen will loom over any decision they make. The Yanks are 9-2 in games he's appeared in and he has a 1.46 ERA. 另外,洋基牛棚是否少的了张伯伦,自然也是下决策的重点,张伯伦出场给洋基的成绩是 9 胜 2 败, ERA 1.64. "The history of the game, for the most part, is loaded with pitchers who have been minor-league starters and break into the majors in the bullpen," Cashman said. "That's what was always done and now you can't do that? Johan Santana started in the big leagues as a reliever. Cashman 说: 历史上大多数小联盟投手转入大联盟都是先进牛棚,为何现在就不行呢? Johan Santana 刚进大联盟也是当救援投手. "People will get hurt, there's no doubt about that. We try to limit the risk. We look at everything to figure out how to use caution. Based on all the information to date, we have programs in place that we believe in." 有人会受到伤害,那是一定的.我们要设法降低风险,运用最新的资料,周全的考虑如何小心 运用,我们自信有最适当的计画. --



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1F:推 eatingclis:翻的不错 帮推一下 05/06 23:26
2F:推 tomtcatai:谢谢翻译 辛苦了~~ 05/06 23:36
3F:推 eaquson: 05/06 23:37
4F:推 glittering:说真的 不用Rasner跟井川试试 就要拉张伯伦 没什麽道理 05/06 23:43
5F:推 hysteric19:如果今年他不禁轮值...未来有办法进吗?? 05/06 23:45
6F:→ hysteric19:他的局数不是要每年慢慢递增... 05/06 23:46
7F:推 TheBeast:今年就是要让他练先发 因应局数逐年增加 很难了解吗? 05/06 23:51
8F:推 cck73823:今年当然会让他进先发啊~只是不是现在... 05/06 23:58
9F:推 siliver:先牛棚再先发才好控制局数啊,要是一直呆牛棚那局数吃不多. 05/07 00:08
10F:→ sean302:最近表现 好像投手又恢复希望了...哇哈哈 拿总冠军吧 05/07 00:14
11F:推 ninetales:谢谢翻译,小张转SP真的不能太急..踏错步的後果会很可怕 05/07 00:32
12F:推 mepass:就是因为他是个宝 才要这麽小心啊 05/07 00:40
13F:→ djcc:六月5号投手崩盘 甲霸接手投个50球 下一场就取代当先发 05/07 01:02
14F:推 chordate:有够白痴的计画=.= 05/07 01:08
15F:→ chordate:後援接手50球和先发完全是不同的意思 05/07 01:09
16F:推 geniusya:谢谢翻译 05/07 02:14
17F:推 hodsala:王哥哥只救援一次..... 05/07 03:51
18F:推 kauw:丢下去一个月?交给老方 HAWKINS他们 哈哈 搞不好回来後也不 05/07 05:48
19F:→ kauw:那麽须要了 被大缚度拉开.. 05/07 05:49
20F:推 Aldousphyx:我觉得要看老方降球速的策略能不能继续有好表现 05/07 06:32
21F:→ Aldousphyx:老方怎样也曾经是当家closer,而且生涯还没到走下坡的 05/07 06:33
22F:→ Aldousphyx:时候 05/07 06:34
23F:→ andyal:跟老方已经有感情了 希望他重建当初的威信 不要再放火潦基 05/07 06:59







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