作者leddy (耿秋)
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标题[洋基] Pags: Hughes Loses Velocity Because of Mechanics
时间Tue Apr 8 17:33:34 2008
资料来源:
http://www.waswatching.com/archives/2008/04/pags_hughes_los.html
重点: Hughes因为投球机制上的问题, 失掉了球速
问:去年Hughes的快速球平均是89-92 miles, 但先前的球探报告却是92-95miles, 连
现金人去年八月也感到奇怪。那时Hughes的球速是88-91 miles, 但现金人觉得应
该要有91-93 miles。现金人对Hughes降球速的回答是: "我不知道为什麽, 我们的
工作是持续看看是否有任何投球机制上的问题。他现在只是伤後在建立手臂的强度。"
Hughes今年春天则提到, 去年在右大腿拉伤後一整年他都没法信赖自己的腿, 让他
投球时无法放松, 但强调现在身体很好右大腿的问题已经不存在了。但是今年首度
先发, Hughes的速球仍然仅维持在91miles。以你的意见而言, 就他这样的一个新
秀投手的状况而言, 在投手能力的发展上对Hughes造成什麽样的影响呢?
1. 好的球团与坏的球团间的很大差异就是发展新秀球员的能力。球探及选入稳当的新
秀是其中的两大项, 但这我们留到日後再谈。
2. Hughes的球速无法超过91 miles, 问题就在投球的机制上没有别的。那为什麽现金人
不知道呢? 那是因为他的专长是在球队, 人员和程序上的管理, 他并不是一个作球探
方面的专家, 当然就不会知道Hughes投球机制等方面的问题。这句话绝不是对对现金人
的一种侮辱。Jack Welch是美国奇异公司的前总裁, 也是我们那个年代最令人尊敬的
企业领导人之一, 他并没有办法为自己制造喷射机和电冰箱, 但却可以管理制造这些
东西的一群人。
3. 去问现金人Hughes不是他专长领域的问题是不公平的, 这就好像去问Joe Girardi关於
脑部手术的问题。
4. Hughes该怎麽作呢? 他必须对送球出手的方式(delivery)作些改变, 就像Clemens从
红袜转队到蓝鸟时所作的事情。Hughes投球的机制最弱的地方就在送球出手过程的第
三段和第四段, 这段时间是将球拿出手套一直到球离开他的手。这里有两个问题, 首
先将球拿出手套时, 他的手臂没有做完全的伸展, 产生不一致的放球点, 让他变成一
个不稳定的投手。第二, 他的头拉向前而不是维持在後头, 让球在头的"周围"出手,
就像一些年轻攻击企图心强的打者所犯的错一样。
5. 这些问题发生的效应如下:
‧Hughes的球速下降了, 因为他没有好好利用到下半身的力量。
‧他的变速球掉出好球带往本垒板对过来Hughes手臂的那一边(右方)。
‧他的曲球落在好球带的左上方。
6. 你将会发现Hughes会更常去投他的滑球, 仅管滑球只是他第四好的球种。他的手臂位
置比理想上要低, 使得滑球变成他唯一能够有效控制的变化球。这也是为什麽你在本
垒板後面看Hughes曲球的变化是从10到4, 而不是过去的12到6。
7. 好消息是Hughes的投球机制是可以修正的, 他能否教得来则是另一回事。我不是说他
教不来, 我只是不了解这个人, 我无法评论。
8. 我的猜想是投手教练David Eilend升上来真正的目的是来调整Hughes, Hughes将在
2009或2010上轨道, 别忘了他实际上现在应该还在2A雷电队。
9. 但是这是洋基高层必须冒的风险, 而且这是一个很大的风险, 因为这已经偏离了在
原本在小联盟中培养新秀的成功法则-让他成为冠军队伍的球员,而不是在大联盟
中。看看最近一代的洋基明星球员, Derek Jeter, Andy Pettitte, MO Rivera,
Jorge Posada他们被叫上大联盟前发展的程度都比Hughes要好得多, Jeter(21),
Pettitte(23), 和Williams(22)开始在大联盟有所贡献时的年纪都跟Hughes差不多,
但发展程度是让球员准备好在大联盟产生贡献, 而不只是他的年纪。
Pags: Hughes Loses Velocity Because of Mechanics
Published by Mike Pagliarulo on April 6, 2008 09:45 pm under Yankees
Great question from Steve L. over at www.waswatching.com:
Mike - Last season, the Yankees Phil Hughes’ fastballs were averaging 89 to
92 miles an hour. However, reports said that Phil usually threw around 92 to
95 MPH. Even Yankees GM Brian Cashman was curious about this last August. At
that time, Hughes’ fastballs were averaging 88 to 91 miles an hour,
according to Cashman, when they should have been 91 to 93. Here’s what
Cashman had to say about Hughes drop in velocity: “I don’t know why. It’s
our job to continue to look and see if there’s anything mechanically. He
could still be just building arm strength from being down for so long.” Phil
Hughes, this spring, said that he never really trusted his leg (after his
hamstring injury) and that did not allow him to let loose with his pitches.
But, Hughes maintained that he was sound now and it was no longer an issue.
However, in his start last night, Hughes was, once again, consistently at 91
MPH with his fastball. In your opinion, how does this development impact Phil
Hughes in terms of his status of being a pitching prospect?
A big difference between good organizations and bad organizations is their
ability to develop their own prospects. Scouting and the ability to make
sound player acquisition decisions are the other two big ones, but we’ll
leave those for another day.
The reason Phil Hughes isn’t throwing his fastball faster than 91 MPH is
mechanics – and nothing else. Why doesn’t Brian Cashman know this? Because
he’s an expert at managing groups, people and processes; he’s NOT a
baseball expert in terms of scouting, of understanding pitching mechanics, or
understanding hitting mechanics, etc. That’s in no way an insult to Brian.
Jack Welch, formerly CEO of General Electric, is one of the most respected
business leaders of our time, and he couldn’t build a jet engine or a
refrigerator himself. But he could manage the people who could.
So, it’s unfair to ask Cashman the Hughes question since it’s not his area
of expertise. It’s like asking Joe Girardi about brain surgery.
What to do about Hughes? He needs to change his delivery, just as Roger
Clemens did when he went from Boston to Toronto. Hughes’ mechanics are the
weakest during pitching stages three and four, the time in which he takes the
ball out of glove to when the ball leaves his hand. Two issues: First, he’s
not getting full arm extension after taking the ball out of his glove – and
this creates an inconsistent release point and, therefore, an inconsistent
pitcher. Second, he’s leading with his head instead of staying back and
throwing “around” his head – something that young, aggressive hitters can
be guilty of.
The effects of these issues:
--> Reduced velocity on his fastball, because he isn’t able to fully leverage
his lower half.
--> His changeup is ending up off the plate to Hughes’ arm-side of home plate.
--> His curve (normally a 70/75 grade pitch on a 20-80 scale) is being left up in
the zone
You’ll notice that Hughes has been throwing his slider more often, despite
the fact it’s just his fourth best pitch. Because of his mechanics, Hughes’
arm slot is lower than ideal and, thus, his slider is the only breaking
pitch that he can command effectively. It’s the same reason you don’t see
three quarter or side arm pitchers with good curveballs. It’s also why if you
’re looking at Hughes behind home plate his curve ball is breaking at a 10
to 4 angle as opposed to its typical 12 to 6.
The good news is that Hughes’ mechanics are fixable. Whether he is coachable
– a trait needed for a player to improve – is another thing. I’m not
saying he isn’t coachable; I just don’t know the guy, so I can’t say.
My guess is that if Yankees pitching coach Dave Eiland is allowed to really
work with him, Hughes will be on track by 2009 or 2010. Let’s not forget
this kid should still be in AA Trenton.
But this is the risk the Yankee front office is taking. And it’s a big risk,
given that it deviates from previously successful methods of developing
prospects for championship teams in the minors, not the majors. Looking at
the last generation of Yankees stars, Derek Jeter, Andy Pettitte, Bernie
Williams, Mo Rivera and Jorge Posada were all much more advanced in their
development prior to their call-up than Hughes. Jeter (21), Pettitte (23) and
Williams (22) were close to the same age as Hughes when they started
contributing to the major league club, but development is about being ready
to produce, not just age.
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3F:推 siliver:Hughes要好好培养啊,真怕教头会操他QQ 04/08 17:45
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8F:推 kenji003:看hughes投球时 我总觉得他是用手腕在甩球 04/08 18:11
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