作者abc12812 (abc12812)
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标题[情报]阿宅臭了吗?
时间Sat Apr 5 16:21:50 2008
What Is Wrong With Kei Igawa?
http://tinyurl.com/5jwh6h
April 4, 2008
By Frankie Piliere
Ah, yes, the question that just about every Yankee fan would like an answer to.
There’s probably a lot wrong with the Japanese southpaw that the Yankees wish
they could fix. But, there are also other things that seem to be more obvious,
at least to me, that appear to be more correctable. All players, though,
cannot correct all their flaws, and hence, that is where players are weeded
out. So, whether Igawa can sort out his problems remains to be seen, but issues
there are a plenty.
是的,所有的洋基迷都想知道原因。也许阿宅问题真的多到解决不完。但对我来说,有些
问题是很明显而可以解决的的。所有有问题的家伙都没办法在大联盟生存。所以,他确实
是出了些毛病。
I went to see the Scranton-Wilkes Barre Yankees opener on Thursday specifically
to examine Igawa up close and personal to see what I could discover about
“what is wrong with him.” Of course, he didn’t make it easy on me by
proceeding to toss six perfect innings against Lehigh Valley before being
subsequently being lifted in favor of Scott Patterson. So, yes, the task I had
laid out was to break down what is wrong with a pitcher who had just
steamrolled through six frames with 7 strikeouts and no walks. Most would be
deterred, but not me. Find out more after the jump…
为了找出问题,我跑去看了洋基3A队的开幕战。当然,一个投了六局好球的家伙并不容易
找出问题,而现在我的任务是指出他的缺陷。大部分的问题让人沮丧,但我觉得其实还好
。首先...
Kei Igawa does have more than enough pure stuff to get Triple-A hitters out,
and that is exactly what he showed on Thursday. His fastball touched 92 MPH on
a very chilly, windy night and his changeup ranged from 77-81 MPH. Even his
often suspect breaking ball was working for him as well. But, I really do not
think, nor do many baseball people, that his problems stem from a lack of
weapons in his arsenal.
阿宅的stuff拿来杀3A是绰绰有余,就像他在开幕战表现出来的那样。在还冷的晚上可以把
速球催到92mph,变速球则在77-81。连breaking ball都投的不错。我想,大部分的棒球人
,包括我,都不会认为阿宅的stuff不够。
Whether Kei Igawa’s current mechanics are what worked for him in Japan I
don’t know. What I do know, however, is that what he does now will make it
very difficult for him to ever get the ball down in the strike zone against big
league hitters.
我不知道他现在的投球机制是不是和他在日本的时候一样。我知道的是,他现在的投球机
制让他没办法把球压低。
Bottom line: Kei Igawa never fully transfers his weight over his front leg. I
suppose you could call him a drop and drive pitcher, given his extreme back leg
collapse, but it is simply not working too well. To put it another way, he is
drop without the drive. I’ve laid out a few points as to why Igawa has
struggled so much to locate his pitches down in the zone, which has been the
general problem with him; he’s been up in the zone. Of course, my school of
thought it just one school of thought, but I also believe some points I make
are fairly standard pitching philosophies. Always keep in mind though, to keep
an open mind when it comes to mechanical philosophies one way or another.
间单的说:阿宅的重心转移不好。他是个drop and drive投手,把後脚蹲很低,但显然运作
的不好。换个方式来说:蹲了,但没有往前。我会指出一些他最主要的问题。当然,这些只
是我的看法,但我想我所说的都还算是蛮普遍的理论。永远要记得的是,投球理论很难有
对错之分。
Point 1: Arm Speed
Kei Igawa is not blessed with tremendous arm speed. That is not an automatic
point of ruining for a pitcher; some guys have it and some guys don’t.
Igawa’s delivery is based on the work of his legs. All his workouts are
directed towards his legs and all of his mechanics are built around leg drive.
But, one major issue is that Igawa’s arm cannot catch up to his immensely long
stride. He never truly gathers himself at his balance point. In fact, that is
really not a problem. I love the aggressive nature and momentum he has going
into his release. However, to succeed with such a fast paced delivery, you need
to be in a special class. Pitchers who have that electric quick arm and have an
aggressive, violent weight transfer toward the plate are an entirely different
case. These pitchers are some of the big leagues’ most successful hurlers, but
Igawa does not have the two parts of this winning formula to make it work. He
never comes to a stop at his balance point and the arm simply can never catch
up to the lower half.
It’s simple physics from this point on. If a pitcher’s arm is not keeping up
with the rest of his delivery, he’s making it very difficult on himself to
drive the ball on a downward plan low in the zone. Arm speed is generally a
gift for a pitcher, so I don’t believe that fixing that is an option.
阿宅没有很快的挥臂。这倒不是很严重的问题,不是每个投手挥臂都很快。阿宅投球的基
础是下半身。不过,很重要的一点是他的挥臂跟不上下半身,他没有在平衡点时累积能量
。事实上,这不算是个问题。我喜欢这样具侵略性的投法。然而,只有天生神力才有办法
这样投球能有快速的挥臂和侵略性的投法。而阿宅的挥臂就是跟不上下半身。
很简单的一个想法:手一旦跟不上,球就容易往上跑。不过,挥臂是投手的天份,所以我想
他的问题不在这里。
Point 2: Stride Length
A long stride used properly can produce outstanding results but it is also a
good place to start looking for problems for a pitcher who has had as many
struggles as Kei Igawa has. His stride length is about equal to his height. The
main problem I have though is that he is reaching so far with his front front
that it’s causing his front hip to open up early. Try it for yourself. Stand
in the middle of the room and reach as far as you can with your foot. If you
reach far enough, your hips will begin to turn. If those hips are opening up,
he’s striding too far and losing much of that power he has stored on his back
leg. You don’t want to see a pitcher’s hips squaring up too early in his
delivery or before he can begin to employ his leg drive.
All that is definitely a problem in regards to Igawa’s stride, but there is
also a far more key issue that I touched on briefly in point 1. The longer a
pitcher’s stride is, the more leg drive they need to get leverage and throw
over their front side. This lefty has the long stride, and the leg drive, but
not enough to overcome just how long that stride is. Combined with his arm
having trouble keeping up, it is quite a challenge for Igawa to use that front
leg as a post of sorts in which he can vault his swing his weight over. With
his stride being as long as it is, he’s just making it very hard on himself to
firm up that front leg and create a downward plane. This image illustrates that
struggle pretty well.
Also, take a look at how low Igawa’s actual release point is being as spread
out as he is. Not much downward plane going on there is there?
大跨步是观察一个投手的好方法。对阿宅来说,他的跨步太大了,导致腰部提前开掉。你
可以试试看这样做:跨很大一步,然後身体自然就会旋转。腰一开。他後脚的力量就浪费
掉了。你不会想看到一个投手腰太早开。
更进一步来说,跨步愈大,就要有愈多的力量去克服跨步造成的力矩。阿宅有大跨步,但
他的力量不足。加上挥臂太慢,这让他很难转移他的重心,同时也没办法把球往下投。
看看他的放球点:是不是没什麽往下的向量?
Point 3 - Front Leg
Take a look at Igawa’s stride leg upon release of the ball. It’s bent at
nearly a 90 degree angle. In fact, it looks like there’s as much resistance
pushing backwards as there is pushing forward. He’s making it very difficult
on himself to transfer his weight toward the hitter. At not point in his
delivery does that front leg ever completely straighten out so that he can
bring the rest of his body and arm over the top. Ever hear youth and high
school coaches tell pitchers to stay tall? It applies at all levels. Igawa
delivers the ball essentially from a crouched position that Jeff Bagwell could
be proud of. Except, for a pitcher, it is hard to get much leverage from down
there.
Also take note of how Igawa’s leg swings open as oppose to just a normal
stride forward. This also causes his hips to prematurely open. By doing this,
he is causing his front foot to turn open also. Notice that his foot lands very
hard on his heel and not on the ball of his foot. Because he is landing on his
heel, as he begins to drive with his legs, his heel will rotate slightly before
the rest of his foot comes down. It’s a small millisecond but that is more
time for his front side to premature open up. Especially since he is a leg
drive oriented pitcher this is especially true, but a pitcher’s upper body and
arm follow and are dictated by the actions of the lower body.
前脚:弯到快90度了。这会造成向後的力,造成阿宅的重心很难转移向前。他的前脚从来没
有伸直过好让手和身体可以往前。他蹲的简直就像是Jeff Bagwell,这样投手很难得到足
够的力量。
另外,他的跨步是开的,像是在往前踏一样。这也会导致腰部提早打开,脚也会提早打开
。注意到他是脚根而不是脚尖着地,这会让他的脚在投球时稍微旋转,造成上半身的方向
错误,特别是他是drop and drive投手。
Point 4 - Pie Throwing
The term “pie thrower” is scouting jargon for a pitcher who has his palm
somewhat under the ball rather than on top. Igawa is a classic example. His arm
action is not a thing of beauty; it’s quite stiff and seems to merely be along
for the ride with his lower half. His “pie throwing” is more than likely a
simple result of his lower half mechanical flaws.
掌心朝上投球。手臂太僵硬。
Summation
I gave Kei Igawa a very hard time in this piece because that was the point of
this article. Small flaws were magnified and examined. So, no, these flaws are
not as monstrous as they may sound. Right about now, no one is too interested
in “what is great about Kei Igawa”. People want to know why he hasn’t
succeeded. Of course, there are reasons far beyond just his delivery mechanics
that he’s failed in the big leagues thus far. But, since it’s been becoming
more and more evident that his main chink in the armor has been pitching up in
the zone, I thought exploring why that’s been happening would be interesting.
There is actually a lot to like about Kei Igawa, so Yankee fans, don’t quit
just yet. I think a lot could be resolved for Kei with a shortening of his
stride. I really like the momentum and aggression in his drive towards the
plate. I would just prefer that that drive be much more downhill. His stuff,
down in the zone, can be effective. Whoever scouted and signed him didn’t get
that completely wrong. Perhaps what they did not anticipate was the trouble
he’d having in changing his mechanics. Although he dominated a Triple-A lineup
on Thursday, there was not a truly dramatic change in his location; he was up a
lot. So, it begs the question; will he come to the realization that his
delivery works at Triple-A and in Japan but not at the MLB level? Only time
will tell.
I hope this was good food for thought for Yankee fans especially. Kei Igawa is
not a lost cause, despite the fact that all I did was point to his flaws.
Besides his lack of arm speed, they are all correctable problems. Will he make
the adjustments, however? That I do not know.
我把阿宅讲的很糟,但事情其实没这麽严重。人们比较有兴趣的是为什麽他会失败而不是
他好在哪。当然,除了投球机制外还有其他的原因,但他最主要的问题是球没办法压低,
我想研究这个问题的原因是比较有趣的。
我想如果可以把跨步缩小的话,很多问题都可以被解决。他投球的侵略性是很好的。他需
要有往下丢球的向量。当他可以球可以压低时,他会很猛。球探对他的投球机制有些判断
错误,问题在於,他什麽时候会了解到他的投球机制只在等级较低的联盟有用?
我想,阿宅他还没有完蛋,虽然我都只讲他的缺点。除了挥臂速度外,其他都是可以修正
的。不知道他最终能不能改的过来?
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1F:推 kevev:推 辛苦啦 04/05 16:26
2F:推 cloud0123:推 04/05 16:29
3F:推 HighTemplar:推推 04/05 16:30
4F:推 chordate:请问可否转Asian-MLB? 04/05 16:32
5F:推 yevvi:推 04/05 16:35
6F:推 royechen:推,辛苦了!!! 04/05 16:37
7F:推 XBox:推一个!!! 04/05 16:55
8F:推 larcenciely:推~ 看到Hawkins今天这样真希望阿宅能上来当MRP试试看 04/05 17:00
9F:推 ppc:推 04/05 17:05
10F:推 chordate:可是Igawa说他的生存之道是先发耶..XD 04/05 17:05
11F:推 larcenciely:先上来稳个几场让教练团放心再转SP ^^|| 04/05 17:10
12F:推 cck73823:印象中他热身不是要超久的吗??不是有说超早去跑楼梯?? 04/05 17:13
13F:推 finalvote:感谢推 '还'冷 那边似乎打错了^^ 04/05 17:19
14F:推 hergan:能顶先发就快顶上来吧 毕竟还是需要个稳定5号 04/05 17:21
15F:推 mightymouse:现在还没有他的位置啊,上来也只能顶长中继 04/05 17:27
16F:推 OLDdaughter:推 感谢 04/05 17:42
17F:推 cerruti1881:看到 Bagwell 我笑了 XD 04/05 17:43
18F:推 poqwer:推推推~ 04/05 17:44
19F:推 gerkk:推翻译,抢救阿宅大作战 ! 04/05 18:35
20F:推 bigsun0709:不过教练团也怕上来之後爆炸又把信心摧毁了(哭哭 ><) 04/05 19:44
21F:→ jyaamoes:阿宅:请相信我,再给我一次机会,囧 04/05 20:03
22F:推 nknulittled:推 04/05 20:47
23F:推 xanlich:我决定插手你的人生 当你的时尚顾问 别说你不能 04/05 21:10
24F:推 CarlPavano:阿宅真是迷样般的投手 04/05 21:17
25F:推 bozzio71:有没有神人对比一下阪神全盛时期和现在姿势的差别吗? 04/05 22:22
26F:推 nashsien:推 阿宅加油 04/05 22:31
27F:推 ppc:他热身应该会热到他的合约结束才热完吧 有够久了 04/05 23:00
28F:推 Datow:我剪了一个比对....可是档案太大了.. gif要怎麽减肥呀>< 04/05 23:04
29F:→ Kinra:照片请用jpg,不要用gif… 04/05 23:07
30F:推 Datow:动态的要怎麽用JPG.. 04/05 23:10
31F:推 Kinra:做成动态的啊@@; 那你试试看能不能减少色彩数吧 04/05 23:12
32F:推 larusa:推一个 翻译辛苦啦 04/05 23:12
34F:推 newest:这个世界的谜团之一阿...........igawa 04/06 04:20
35F:推 ju8633:我的疑问是:为何有这些问题,还可以在日职里很威? 04/06 08:14
36F:推 hoffer:因为小日本不高 而阿豆仔很高 阿宅的高球 = 好打 04/06 09:38
37F:推 atriple:Datow大 你的网页没办法连结 04/06 11:09
38F:→ godblesssam:甘帅再不行 井就会上了 04/06 11:19
40F:推 roxiang:连完全比赛都能这样挑这球评也不能全信啊.... 04/07 00:10
41F:推 ypw:应该改成What's RIGHT ? 比较贴切 04/07 01:32