作者WillWaiting (Creep)
站内NY-Yankees
标题Re: Hughes和Kennedy谁强呢?
时间Fri Nov 30 02:57:23 2007
: 推 WillWaiting:Mike Mussina不就是用弹指曲球吗XDrz 11/30 01:50
: 推 WillWaiting:另外Hughes用的的确是弹指曲球 11/30 01:55
: 推 appshjkli:Moose不用弹指曲一段时间了 11/30 01:56
: → appshjkli:Phil Hughes的曲球握法我记得是Moose教他现在用的握法 11/30 01:57
: 推 WillWaiting:Moose哪里不用弹指曲XDrz 11/30 01:58
: → WillWaiting:多去看看新闻ok? 11/30 01:59
: → WillWaiting:http://tinyurl.com/2aqk56 11/30 01:59
: 推 appshjkli:我找找之前看到的好了 11/30 02:04
: 推 WillWaiting:我好像搞错了XDD 11/30 02:09
: → WillWaiting:Mike Mussina现在投的是另一种曲球(spike ball) 11/30 02:10
: → WillWaiting:不过有些人叫knuckle curve 也叫spike ball 11/30 02:10
: 推 appshjkli:http://0rz.tw/8b3ma CCLu的文章中提到的 11/30 02:20
: → appshjkli:当初是看到这篇就是了 11/30 02:21
首先
http://tinyurl.com/25pfmx
Mussina made up his knuckle-curve and used it for more than 20 years. He
hooked his index and middle fingers into the seams and used his other three
fingers to support the bottom half of the ball. As he propelled the ball
forward, he shot his fingers out to form a V. The result was hard topspin
action that caused the ball to break in different directions.
Now that he is 38, with an elbow that has bothered him in recent years,
Mussina no longer throws that pitch. His current curveball is one he learned
at Stanford in 1988. He digs into the seam above the sweet spot with his
index finger only — a so-called spike curveball — and rests his middle
finger a few centimeters away.
上面那段是说Mussina原本有一种弹指曲球握法是食指跟中指勾起来 像弹指球一样出手
但是因为近年Mussina老了 手臂负担大了改用另一种丢法 Spike curve
(这是弹指曲球的另一种说法,不过跟Mussina原本的弹指曲有点不一样)
是食指指尖压在缝线上 但是中指跟食指有点分开
http://tinyurl.com/2hkaar
这个网页里 A Pitcher's Arsenal的第三张 应该就是现在Mussina的丢法
这也算一种弹指曲,而且从Mussina在史丹佛就会的
(不过图片介绍那篇是说14岁?? 大概是说原本的那种)
Phil Hughes, the Yankees’ top prospect, showed Mussina a similar grip one
day last spring training. Hughes had pitched after Mussina in an exhibition
game, and Mussina had noticed him struggling to command his curveball.
Hughes held his curveball just like Mussina’s, but with his index finger
brushing against his middle finger. He tried it Mussina’s way, with that
sliver of separation, and noticed a difference.
“It was a lot better,” Hughes said. “I’ve just kind of stuck with it, and
it’s really come a long way.”
Hughes跟Mussina一样会丢那样的Spike curve(他的曲球一直归类在弹指曲)
但是Mussina发现了Hughes跟他稍微不同的地方
就是Hughes的食指跟中指会摩擦到 所以控制不是那麽好
Mussina叫Hughes把食指跟中指分开後
Hughes说:我天天考试都考一百分呢
所以Hughes不是被Mussina教一个新的球种
而是在原本的弹指曲球上做了一些改变
至於Spike curve是不是弹指曲
许多的网站是在Knuckle curve的别称上加上Spike ball的
我想就握法跟类型上是可以归类在Knuckle curve的
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1F:推 rayen:可怜的葛雷诺 没好球打 11/30 03:07
2F:推 WillWaiting:另外不投滑球是NYY小联盟对高中球员的要求 11/30 03:14
3F:推 redsnipertd:那拿原本滑球当主力球种的就一定要重练另外的武器搂? 11/30 03:24
4F:→ redsnipertd:万一新的武器长不出来怎麽办? 年纪到了再捡回滑球吗? 11/30 03:26
5F:推 WillWaiting:阿摘 就像一堆投手的武器球也一直在变呀 11/30 03:38
7F:推 bozzio71:季初就有新闻Hughes要用单指曲球跟小王交换二缝线了 11/30 03:38
8F:推 WillWaiting:那不是单指曲球啦~"~ 单指曲是曲球握法但食指不碰球 11/30 03:41
10F:推 Nasty:推will大好文一篇 这种专业的报导都找的到 11/30 04:08
11F:→ Nasty:不过猴子也真可怜 全部都要丢极高不然又极低 XD 11/30 04:08
12F:推 to1322:怎麽变成在讨论穆跟大帝 Ian实在没人爱 11/30 10:30
13F:推 pieceofpaper:单指曲球?一个手指头?囧 11/30 10:49
14F:推 peterhuo:推啦 11/30 12:10
15F:推 aresa:怎麽没人推穆帅是好人,救小王又救休斯,比老火箭还感心 11/30 15:42
16F:推 okaoka0709: 穆帅是好人,救小王又救休斯,比老火箭还感心 11/30 21:34
17F:推 Jamesbang:Hughes说:我天天考试都考一百分呢 穆帅就甘心 12/01 00:02