重点 1. Guidry相信张伯伦还是会回去当先发投手, 但如果他没法回去当先发, Guidry反而感 到忌妒。Guidry说他心里最希望的是当个後援投手, 虽然他是当先发干得很棒, 但内 心深处想当个後援投手。(Gator你说真的还是在骗小孩子) 2. 昨天比赛时Guidry和张伯伦闲聊几个小时, 洋基让张伯伦先上来嚐嚐後援的角色, Gator则说自己本来是当後援的, 直到今天还希望有个机会上去试试这角色。 2. Guidry在小联盟时主要是当後援, 那也是他想干的角色, 问题是那时洋基的救援投手 被Sparky Lyle占着, 他没机会抢到这位子, 只好卡在先发轮值里 3. "卡在先发轮值里"反而是张伯伦想要的, 只是现在是抢季後赛的关键时刻, 便把张伯 伦转为後援更能帮助球队, 季後他还是会回先发的角色。 4. Gator的故事告诉我们, 年轻人的生涯绕点路没关系, 就像宝贝碰(Papelbon)一样, 如 果洋基觉得牛棚里更需要张伯伦, 让他当後援的时间可以延伸到这一季以後。(Gator 你不要害人, 照Torre的用法..., 莫非要他接MO的位子) 5. Gator说, 张伯伦让他有点想起Goose(Gossage), Goose是他在洋基球员时代最伟大的 救援投手, 他说张伯伦可以投出刚猛的快速球, 难打滑球, 碰到他的打者可想见有多 难过。 6. 张伯伦昨天投了完美的第八局守住一分的差距, 被球迷捧到天上(再加上Gator的洗脑) 说, 他以前干先发不知道, 当後援有完全不同的压力, 那会带来肾上腺的刺激, 是完 全不同难以言谕的美妙经验。 7. 就Guidry所了解的, 就算张伯伦需干几年後援, 还是可以毫无问题的回到先发。他说 如果有些人的能耐只能投30, 40球, 要他在一场球投100球当然很困难, 但是如果有 些人明明可投100球, 让他干後援几年再当先发还是没什麽问题。 8. Guidry本来在小联盟是当先发养的, 但洋基觉得他长得太小只可能无法当个大投手, 因此之後一直到1975年升上大联盟前的一些年都让他在小联盟当後援, 上了大联盟後 75, 76两年便是後援, 本来77年也计画让他当後援, 只是洋基在4月29用Dock Ellis 交易了Mike Torrez, 需要一个先发投手。Torrez本来是弄来当先发的, 但办不到。 洋基知道Guidry本来也是先发投手便决定让他上, 结果他投了8又1/3局完封了水手, 以2比0拿到胜利。那年他先发25场拿到16胜7败, 隔年35场先发拿到25胜3败, 拿到 赛扬奖。但他心中渴望的日子还是来了, 1979年Gossage受伤了, 他便当了三场救援。 之後他跑到总教练Billy Martin的办公室说, 他还是想当个後援投手。Martin告诉 他, 他大概疯了了, 拿了25胜的先发投手没人笨到会让他去当救援投手, Martin说 会找人去替补轮不到他。Gator在1977-1985年当先发投手成绩是154胜67败, 他是 那个时期也是洋基历史上最好的先发投手之一。他仍然让人津津乐道的是他如雷射 线般的快速球, 以及在本垒突然消失的滑球。如果他能够一两天丢个一局,应该会每 五天投八局投得更是吓吓叫。(最後一句的猜想, Gator你真的这麽想吗?) 9. 这个故事告诉张伯伦, 为了洋基的需要可以干个几年的後援, 之後还是可以跟Gator 一样变成一个伟大的先发投手。(记者你别来乱) Gator你很伟大也很令人崇拜, 但张伯伦想当先发就让他当, 别讲个伟大的故事让人心 情动摇好不好? Guidry can impart firsthand knowledge to rookie Tuesday, August 14, 2007 from www.nj.com NEW YORK -- Ron Guidry believes Joba Chamberlain will go back to being a starting pitcher. But if he doesn't, Guidry is going to be jealous. "That's what I wanted to be -- a reliever," the Yankees' pitching coach said. "I had a great time starting, and I did the best job I could do. But deep down inside, I wished I'd been a relief pitcher." Chatting in the Yankees' dugout a few hours before last night's game, Guidry was answering questions about Chamberlain, the Yankee phenom who's getting his first taste of the major leagues in a relief role. Guidry himself broke in as a reliever, and to this day he still wishes he'd had the chance to remain one. "That's what I had done in the minor leagues, and it's what I wanted to do," Guidry said. "The only problem was, Sparky Lyle was here. And I couldn't very well take the job away from him. So I got stuck in the rotation." It's all about your perspective, of course, and "stuck in the rotation" is what Chamberlain hopes and expects to be. It's been only a few weeks since the Yankees converted him into a reliever because they determined that's the way he could best help them in this season's pennant push. Their plan, once this season is over, is to make him a starter again. But Guidry's story teaches us that the plan and the vision you have for your career when it's young can always take a detour. If Chamberlain takes to his current role, and if the Yankees decide they have a greater need for him in the bullpen, then he could, like Boston's Jonathan Papelbon, end up a relief pitcher even beyond this season. "He kind of reminds me of Goose (Gossage) a little bit," Guidry said, invoking the great closer of his own Yankee days. "You know he's going to throw hard. Hard fastball, hard slider, hard everything, and you're still going to have a hard time hitting it." High praise for a 21-year-old who's been in the majors for a week. Right now, Chamberlain's still trying to get used to a lot of things, including what it's like to sit in the bullpen all game not knowing if you're going to pitch. But last night, when he pitched a perfect eighth inning with a one-run lead in his first Yankee Stadium game with the fans chanting (and mispronouncing) his first name , was a rush. "It's a feeling like you can't describe," Chamberlain said. "You're put in tough situations a lot as a starter, but this was a little different kind of pressure. It's an adrenaline rush you don't get as a starter." The way Guidry sees it, if Chamberlain does have to be a reliever for a few years, he still could go back to starting without any problem. "You've got to have been a starter to be able to do it and revert back to it," Guidry said. "If you've got a guy who's only ever thrown 30, 40 pitches, it's tough to shoot him up to 100. But if you have a guy who's thrown 100 pitches in a game, you can stick him in the pen for years and he could still be a starter." Guidry began his minor-league career as a starter, but the Yankees feared he might be too small to hold up. So he spent a couple of years as a minor-league reliever before his promotion to the majors in 1975. He was used mainly as a reliever in '75 and '76, and the plan was to use him as a reliever in '77, too. But on April 29, two days after the Yankees had traded Dock Ellis for Mike Torrez, they needed a starting pitcher. Torrez was supposed to get the start, but he hadn't arrived yet. So the Yankees, knowing Guidry had been a starter before, asked him if he'd do it. Not only did he do it, he pitched 8 1/3 shutout innings in a 2-0 victory over Seattle. The Yankees had found something, and they weren't about to give it up. Guidry made 25 starts that season and finished 16-7. The following year, he made 35 starts (and no relief appearances), went 25-3 and won the Cy Young Award. But the itch never went away. In 1979, when Gossage got hurt and Guidry filled in as the closer for three games, he went into manager Billy Martin's office and told him he'd still like to be a relief pitcher. "He just looked at me and said, 'Fat chance,'" Guidry said. "After you win 25 games one year, they think you're crazy. Where are they going to get somebody to do that?" From 1977-85, working almost exclusively as a starting pitcher, Guidry won 154 games and lost 67. He was one of the best starting pitchers of his time and one of the best in Yankees history, always retaining the wistful belief that his laser-beam fastball and disappearing slider would have been even more effective one inning every couple of days than eight innings every five days. The lesson for Joba Chamberlain? You can break in as a reliever and still be a great starter. Even if you don't want to. Dan Graziano may be reached at [email protected]. --

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