作者playerOrz (批乐儿.欧阿力)
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标题Re: [分享] Skill versus Luck in Poker
时间Tue Jan 5 06:32:00 2010
: Most people today misunderstand poker. Let's be frank: most people
: know poker from the low-stakes games they now play (or grew up playing)
: with their family and friends. In these low-stakes home games,luck often
: plays a much bigger role than skill.
现今很多人误解了扑克。说白话一点,很多人从一些低利害关系处与家人和朋友来
认识这个游戏。在这些家庭游戏中,运气时常比技巧占有更重要的地位。
: The money to be gained or lost in a home tends to mean next to nothing,
: and everyone at th table plays almost every hand to the end. The dealer's
: choice games are often nonstandard, even bizarre variations (often fun)
: where, for example, deuces, black kings, or one-eyed jacks (or all of them)
: are wild. In this type of poker game, people just put their money in the
: middle (in the "pot") and hope to make the best hand. Often, there doesn't
: seem to be much strategy or thought involved. When the evening winds up,
: everyone seems to agree that "Johnny sure was hot tonight!" You don't
: hear anyone saying, "Boy, did Johnny play great tonight. I sure am afraid
: of him at the poker table."
钱在家中增加或减少可以说是什麽关系都没有,而几乎所有在桌上的玩家都把每一手牌
玩到结束。玩或不玩常常没有一定的标准,甚至有些奇特的变动。在这类的扑克游戏中
,人们只是把钱放到桌上,并且希望可以得到最好的牌。常常没有什麽战略。当游戏快
结束时,每个人会想说:「Johnny今晚运气真好。」但你却听不到有人会说:「Johnny
今晚玩得实在太好了。我好怕在牌桌上遇到他。」
:
: One reason why luck has such a big role in home-style poker games is that
: many of the skills we use in pro-style games just don't come into play in a
: home game. For example, three of the more important skills that we use are
: being patient in determining which starting hands to play, bluffing, and
: reading people. Patience, like discipline, is a virtue in many areas of life,
: and poker is no exception. It is in the nature of professional or tough
: high-stakes poker games that it is mathematically correct to fold a lot of
: hands right away. If you are playing too many hands (which equates to too
: many bad hands) in a tough poker game, you will often find yourself "drawing
: mighty thin," that is, trying to win by catching particular cards that are
: in short supply.
运气在家庭式扑克牌局中会扮演重要的角色的原因是,很多在专家级游戏中的技巧不会
在桌上出现。举例来说,最重要的三个技巧是:耐性,吓唬和读牌。耐性,就像是戒律
一样,生活中很多地方都一样要有耐性。在高利害关系的游戏中,要有很多把牌是正确
盖掉的。如果你玩了太多手牌(不好的牌)在一个硬的游戏里,你常常会发现自己愈来
愈弱。只期许拿到几把特别的牌是不足的。
:
: The plain fact is that if you play too many hands in a pro-level poker
: game, you just cannot win, certainly not in the long run and probably not
: even on just one given night, no matter how lucky you are. But if you're
: playing a lot of hands in a home poker game, you may be in good shape anyway,
: because the sheer size of the pot will wind up offering you odds suffcient to
: draw to an inside straight (add a nine, for example, to your 7-8-10-J hand)
: or another "unlikely to hit" hand. You'll usually lose, but when you do
: manage to hit the card you need, you're going to win a huge pot.
不管你运气多好,在专业级扑克局里,你玩太多把牌就是不会赢。长期来说绝对是不会
赢,甚至一个晚上都撑不过。但你如果在家庭游戏中玩很多把牌,你或许还可以赢。因
为你有可能不小心在7-8-10-J的牌里,赌到中洞 9,或其他可能性很低的牌。你经常输
,但当你中了你要的牌,赢到巨大的钱。
:
: Further, the number of cards that can complete what you need in the
: late rounds of a hand in a home game is often larger than one sees in the
: pro game, because the dealer has designated various wild cards or rules that
: allow you extra draws or give you chances to buy another card or replace a
: card.
:
: Because you don't see these big pots and people paying you off with weak
: hands in a pro poker game, patience is crucial there. In the traditional
: home-style poker games, patience not only is not as important but may
: actually clash with the "spirit" of the game -- that "We're all here just to
: have fun and gamble." Playing a more technically informed style may win you
: more money in a home game, but it might also mean that you're not invited back
: the next time the game is held! In a casino poker game or an online poker game
: , of course, you don't need to be concerned that you might not be invited back
: .
在一般的家庭游戏中,耐性不但没有那麽重要,甚至可能与他们游戏只是为了好玩或是
小赌一下的「精神」冲突。你或许可以在技术上在家庭游戏中赢得很多钱,但这也代表
当下次有牌局时,你将不再被邀请。在赌场或线上当然你就不用担心你会不会受邀的事
了。
: Another key difference between home poker games and the games that the
: pros play is that bluffing actually succeeds in the pro-style games! In a home
: game, it's extremely hard to pull off a bluff, because you usually can't bet
: enough money on the last bet to get your opponents to fold. For 25 cents,
: someone who is convinced he is beaten is nontheless willing to throw the two
: bits into the pot, just to see what you have, and, oops, there goes your
: attempted bluff. In fact, in most situations in these home games where there
: is a "bet on the end" (in the last round of action in a given hand), someone
: is always egging someone else on to be the "sheriff." "Bill, you call that boy
: and be the sheriff this hand! We can't let him bluff us!"
另一个关键的不同在於,高手在专业桌上的吓唬有效的成功,但在一个家庭游戏中却格
外的困难。因为你常常无法在最後一注下足够的钱来让你的对手盖掉牌。有时候对手只
是想花点钱看看你的牌是什麽。在某些情况,会有「跟到底」的人出现,特别是在最後
几把的时候。有时还会出现有人怂恿其他人跟到底。
:
: In the pro game, bluffing is a sound strategy, because in the late stages
: of a hand there aren't many people who haven't folded. If you've been playing
: very few hands (that is, patiently), and have seldom been caught bluffing
: during a day of play, then when you do bluff, it's hard for those remaining
: in the hand to "call you down" through the last bet. Long live the bluff!
: Bluffing well is an art form, and I will be addressing it at various points
: throughout this book. The bluff is one of the poker crafts-man's tools that
: is seldom available to players in wild, friendly, low-stakes games.
在专业的游戏中,吓唬是十分重要的策略,但是却不能拿来对付玩的牌很广的人。
:
: Another important element in pro poker games is reading your opponents.
: Are they riding on "hot air" or the real thing? In a lot of home games, there
: is just so much money in the pot, relative to the size of the final bet, that
: it makes sense to call that bet. (What do you have to lose?) In pro poker,
: theres is enough money involved, and enough actual thought processes are being
: utilzed, that many situations come up where you can take advantage of a good
: read -- which might arise either from your ability to detect weakness or
: strength in body language or from your ability to assess the implications of
: the betting pattern on the hand -- and make either a good call or a good fold.
: But it's hard to read someone who hasn't really been thinking about the hand
: and can't possibly be nervous about losing $1.75! The skill factor in poker
: is much higher in the pro game. There is just too much at stake for anyone
: to rely solely on luck.
:
另一个重要的元素是读你的对手。他们是在买牌,或许是真的有东西?但是当你的对手
并不认真思考他的牌,或是不会紧张於失去一些小钱的时候,这个技巧就用不到了。
: Let's take a quick glimpse at the high-stakes poker world, an enterprise
: that yields several of my friends over a million dollars a year! At this level
: , too, luck is a factor on any given day, week, or month, but what's different
: is that if you play better poker than your opponents do, pretty consistently,
: you'll find that over almost any two-month period your winnings have exceeded
: your losses. Furthermore, if you play better poker than your opponents over
: a six-month period, your result will have moved very solidly in the winning
: direction. Making a few well-timed bluffs each day will add up to a lot of
: money each year!
:
运气在每一天,每一个礼拜,每一个月都是一个因子,但不同的是当你真的玩得比你的
对手好的时候,你会发现大约两个月一个周期,你赢的都比你输的多。而如果你玩得都
比你的对手还要好的话,你会发现大约六个月一个周期,你的结果会非常稳定的成长。
每天适时的做些吓唬,你每一年会多赢很多钱。
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※ 编辑: playerOrz 来自: 61.57.148.179 (01/05 06:35)
1F:推 kader1234:下一篇..麻将吓唬技巧详述... 01/05 19:41
2F:推 fullmax:我记得有一次 我连一 打到中後段3筒7条一进听 手里北风 01/05 19:52
3F:→ fullmax:後来进了7条 我打北风并且把骰子拿出来摆 下家摇摇头 01/05 19:53
4F:→ fullmax:跟打北风 接着我摸打 下家又打北风 再下一手自摸3筒 01/05 19:54
5F:→ fullmax:後面连2连3都自摸 那一降赢了9000多 01/05 19:56
6F:→ fullmax:当时北风桌上见一 我本意是要拿来看门 没想到意外收效 01/05 19:57
7F:→ fullmax:所以连庄时骰子也可以先不摆 危急时搞不好能收效XD 01/05 19:59
8F:→ fullmax:当然 怕会忘记还是先摆好吧 01/05 19:59
9F:推 a88405971:推用心翻译 不过不太会玩扑克..还是练习麻将唬人吧 XD 01/05 22:34
10F:→ playerOrz:这个重点应该不是在Bluff的技巧才对 01/06 03:11
11F:推 lorenzero:而是在於技术有多种药 04/29 20:27