作者BHviolin88 (Benny Ice)
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标题Re: [NFL!] PM和TB伟大程度?
时间Mon Feb 8 18:31:30 2016
※ 引述《owke (owke)》之铭言:
: Hi,各位朋友,相信各位都还沉浸在这场极其精彩的SB50,笔者也是.
: 虽然比赛尚未结束,但相信结果八九不离十,PM将拿下他生涯第二冠,
: 不意外地他可能会退休,也是时候讨论他的历史地位了.
: PM 超级盃两冠(抱腿一冠),五次MVP,一次FMVP
: TB 超级盃四冠(作弊一冠),两次MVP,三次FMVP
: 但PM同时还保有大量的例行赛记录,这也是笔者犹豫之处,
: 笔者想或许BF、AR这种franchise QB已无法和两位legend相比,
: 可两者间却很难分出高下,
: 不知道各位认为?
本身为TB迷,但是我也是PM的爱好者
首先要先搞清楚的是
Peyton那不叫抱腿
而是因为Indy认为以当时Peyton所受的伤
让人非常不放心
加上又要挑Luck当接班人
(以及cap的问题)
所以才会被Indy释出
这跟抱腿相差甚远
另外,Brady的作弊一冠
是指哪一座可以说清楚吗?
如果是要提去年那一冠
凭良心讲,就算是最死忠的小马迷
都不认为Deflategate是被痛宰的主因
所以这边我很想知道原PO到底是指哪一冠
要不然就只是泼墨汁罢了
如果论生涯季赛成绩来说
Peyton的确远胜过Brady
但是在此同时也要考虑到Brady以及Peyton
身边有什麽武器?
Brady是到了近十年
才有了像是Moss、Welker、Gronk等
极具破坏性的传球目标
Peyton则是不断有像是
Harrison、Wayne、Garcon、Thomas等咖
光是这就可以争论很久
究竟是因为有Peyton/Brady
这些人才可以发光发热?
还是因为这些接球大物
造就了两位传奇?
无论如何,这都是很有意思的讨论
而在季後赛的部分
就戒指数来说
那就是Brady乐胜
但是如果只看H2H的话
其实是Peyton些微占优势
甚至连两位所得到的高层和教练
也对他们的生涯造成了不小的影响及变数
所以要直接评断谁比较强
谁比较伟大
简直是不可能的任务
总而言之
与其在这边争吵这两位传奇的高下
还不如替两位陪伴我们十余年
献给我们无限惊奇及经典的大师
起立 鼓掌 致意
因为这两位宿敌之间精采绝伦的对决
是如此珍贵 如此值得回味
而随着Peyton的淡去
这一切 终将成为绝响
身为美足迷
如何不感慨?
如何不感伤?
如何不感动?
Thank You, Peyton!
Thank You, Tom!
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1F:推 a9202591: 推 02/08 18:35
2F:推 wuwinkan: Push 02/08 18:37
3F:推 shane: 太谦虚了,虽然我不喜欢TB,但TB是跟Montana在争GOAT 02/08 19:06
4F:→ shane: Manning赢了这座後,大概有机会争前五名吧 02/08 19:07
5F:推 imanikki: 个人喜好一回事,成就又是一回事 02/08 19:34
6F:推 JessKB24: Montana still the GOAT 100% winning percentage in SB 02/08 20:12
Agree...but he did have Jerry Rice XD
7F:推 edward0904: 我也是TB迷,也极为敬重PM 02/09 00:51
8F:推 link5689: 推 TB迷+1 但是请尊重PM 两个真的无法比较 各有擅长地方 02/09 00:54
9F:推 DarthVader: 推这篇 战这个没意思 都是伟大四分卫 02/09 00:58
10F:推 vancanucks: 今天的表现就是抱防守组的大腿啊 02/09 01:07
TB去年某种程度也是靠防守喔.......
11F:推 suckmanisme: Manning!!!!!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TB也OK啦 02/09 01:37
12F:推 eukaryote: H2H的话,单看数据Brady的平均rating是比较高的。 02/09 01:37
13F:推 forgetta: Manning季赛强 Brady季後赛强 但对战结果相反 02/09 02:05
14F:推 oplz: 很替 Manning 高兴.. 但是 the argument of Brady vs Peyton 02/09 02:20
15F:→ oplz: "was" over last year, even if Brady retires today. 02/09 02:21
16F:推 merquise: @oplz i think it depends on how you think about the 02/09 10:56
17F:→ merquise: argument 02/09 10:56
※ 编辑: BHviolin88 (114.42.64.89), 02/09/2016 11:05:59
18F:推 gordon3519: 提到PM就是PM,提到TB就要提到BB,更不用说带着* 02/09 11:08
19F:推 oplz: Montana won 2 SBs prior to Jerry Rice. Every QB he beat 02/09 13:07
20F:→ oplz: in SB is in the Hall of Fame (Elway, Ken Anderson, 02/09 13:07
21F:→ oplz: Boomer, & Marino). Brady needs to win another SB to 02/09 13:08
22F:→ oplz: separate him from Montana in the GOAT conversation. 02/09 13:08
KA and Boomer not in HoF but respectable careers...
Marino and Elway games were mismatches because of defense
Not saying that Montana isn't great...But the 49ers were just too good.
So it's difficult to say that if the QB weren't Montana,the 49ers of 80s would not win.
23F:推 tonyselina: 3跟5F的说法就总结了 02/09 13:35
※ 编辑: BHviolin88 (114.42.64.89), 02/09/2016 16:36:41
24F:推 oplz: ah... my mistake. Just saying that Brady needs another 02/09 17:02
25F:→ oplz: ring to conclusively seal the deal being the GOAT. Now 02/09 17:02
26F:→ oplz: it's more like 1 and 1A. Some say TB is 1, some say 1A. 02/09 17:03
27F:→ oplz: It's just a shame that he missed the chance winning at 02/09 17:04
28F:→ oplz: his hometown this time... 02/09 17:05
Agree...Though the two super bowl losses (at least 42) were kind of unlucky
Eli Manning happened......
I thought the crowd was surprissingly hostile to him yesterday......
※ 编辑: BHviolin88 (114.42.64.89), 02/09/2016 17:15:23
29F:推 oplz: I've my explanation, but I'm not gonna say it here. ha~ 02/09 17:35