作者krajicek (回忆比真实精彩)
看板NFL
标题Re: [MNF!] NE Patriots at CAR Panthers
时间Wed Nov 20 08:59:20 2013
http://tinyurl.com/kkjpujv
官方说法出来了!
NFL副总裁Dean Blandino表示支持裁判的判决,认为这个球是引用
所谓的「Proper mechanics」call。
Rule 8, Section 5, Article 3 Permissible Acts
Article 3 Permissible Acts by both teams while the ball is in the air.
Acts that are permissible by a player include, but are not limited to:
(c) Contact that would normally be considered pass interference, but the
pass is clearly uncatchable by the involved players, except as specified
in 8-3-2 and 8-5-4 pertaining to blocking downfield by the offense.
我就原文贴出来,就是昨天有提到的一个观点,就是当Contact的那个球员被认定是
没有接球机会的时候,那就视为一般的相互Blocking,而不符合PI的标准。
因为PI是不可以Review的,所以这就是裁判自由心证的一环。
Pass interference penalties are not reviewable, which means the officials
had to make a judgment call on when the contact Keuchly was making with
Gronkowski became "restrictive." In their judgment, Blandino said, they
ruled that the "restriction occurred simultaneously with the ball being
touched. When you watch it at full speed you can see why they would make
that call on the field."
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Anyway,这其实是一场好比赛。但我觉得裁判要丢旗之前最好先讨论再丢,那时候
也没人逼你丢或不丢,如果你自己不敢作主,那就所有裁判集合讨论一下再说,而
不是反射动作先丢,然後再去修正。
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1F:推 HEK293:讨论完再丢,难保也是一阵讨论。 11/20 09:11
2F:推 mrkey:应该不能这样吧... 11/20 09:26
3F:→ krajicek:我的意思是,既然你丢了,那丢的那个人就要负责 11/20 09:32
4F:→ krajicek:而不是讨论完之後又收回去,如果这样那应该倒过来先讨论 11/20 09:32
5F:→ krajicek:而且最後一个关键Play应该要慎重,尽量让场上决胜负吧 11/20 09:34
6F:推 oplz:"clearly uncatchable" my ass... 11/20 10:06
7F:推 Danielhsieh:我记得ESPN主播有说:How can you throw the flag and 11/20 10:26
8F:→ Danielhsieh:say there's no foul. 11/20 10:27
9F:→ krajicek:官网有Highlight可以看,想了解这个Play的可以去看一下 11/20 11:03
10F:推 tlchen:若当场觉得有犯规,当然先丢啊.一开始没丢,再跑去开会,宣布 11/20 11:15
11F:→ tlchen:有犯规,那才真的会暴动 11/20 11:15
12F:→ krajicek:呵呵,其实我也很讨厌Late Flag,我只是希望裁判要敢负责 11/20 12:08
13F:→ krajicek:就最後那个情况来说,是真的应该慎重,丢了就不要後悔 11/20 12:09
14F:→ krajicek:至於其他的情况,当然最好也不要Late Flag 11/20 12:10
15F:推 redplum:即使裁判群赛後承认他们错了,又能怎样? 比赛也不会重打 11/20 12:14
16F:→ redplum:这只是另一场例行赛 Pats好好准备下场大赛比较重要 11/20 12:15
17F:→ krajicek:所以NFL说要去检视Brooks那一个犯规,又能怎样XD 11/20 12:17
18F:推 JamesSoong:这球PI得很明显啊 不懂当时为什麽会收回 11/20 19:08
19F:推 tlchen:综合官方的说法,应该是丢旗的看到PI,但讨论後认为PI时,球已 11/20 22:15
20F:→ tlchen:碰到防守员,所以不算PI.官方说法特别一再说明,在没看慢动作 11/20 22:16
21F:→ tlchen:正常速度下,裁判认为PI跟球碰防守员是同时的,可以理解 11/20 22:18