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http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/geohot-forced-turn-over-hard-drive-80337/ http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/playstation3-hacker-files/ SCEA先驰得点 geohot必须按照法院命令交出电脑硬碟 PlayStation 3 jailbreaker George Hotz must allow console-maker Sony to comb through his computer's hard drive and retrieve information "that relates to the hacking of the PlayStation," a federal judge ruled Thursday. 联邦法官要求George Hotz 必须让$QNY检查其电脑硬碟,而且必须取 回已经散发出去的 PS3主机破解资讯。 U.S. District Judge Susan Illston's ruled from the bench in Sony's ongoing legal action against the New Jersey hacker, who goes by GeoHot. The lawsuit is in connection to the 21-year-old being the first to fully hack the 4-year-old console, a jailbreak allowing it to play pirated and home-brewed games. Hotz posted the code on his website last month, and put a how-to video on YouTube. That landed him in court here on Digital Millennium Copyright Act civil allegations. Among other things, Sony accuses him of trafficking in devices that circumvent controls meant to protect copyrighted works. 上个月Hotz将破解的程式以及教学影片放上网路,使得他今日面临DCMA指控,不 仅如此,$QNY还指控运输破解版权保护机制的设备。 In the Thursday hearing, Hotz' attorney, Stewart Kellar, objected to the judge's bench order, saying Sony would be able to "observe" the contents of all his client's files. 在上周四的听证会当中,Hotz的律师Stewart Kellar对法官原先的命令表达反对 立场,但允许$QNY「检视」他客户的档案。 "That's the breaks," Illston said. 「这算是一大突破。」Illston 如是说。 Hotz has already removed the YouTube video and the code from his website to comport with the judge's earlier orders. 在此之前,Hotz已经按照法院命令移除在YouTube上的影片以及相关程式码。 The judge had originally ruled weeks ago that Hotz must surrender all of his computer gear to Sony. But Kellar asked for reconsideration, and a hearing was hastily called Thursday. 法官在上周听证会前,原本命令Hotz必须交付$QNY所有相关的电脑设备,但 Kellar律师请求法官重新考量,於是法院随即在周四就立即举行了听证会。 Illston informed Kellar that it was routine for the entire contents of computers to be searched in a bid to isolate what is being sought, as in child pornography prosecutions. 法官告诉Hotz的律师,检查电脑内的档案属於固定的程序的一环,孩童色情相关 的检举案也一样。 "Your honor, we're certainly not dealing with child pornography in this issue," Kellar replied. 「庭上,但我们并非在讨论孩童色情案……」Hotz的律师如是说。 Moments later, the judge responded: 稍後,法官做出了回应。 "Here, I find probable cause that your client has got these things on his computer," she said. "It's a problem when more than one thing is kept on the computer. I'll make sure the order is and will be that Sony is only entitled to isolate … the information on the computer that relates to the hacking of the PlayStation." 这里,我认为你的客户确实有可能将部份争议资料存在他的电脑里面,而当所有 的东西都混在一起时,问题只会更复杂化。所以我认为有必要将$QNY所指控,而 且与 PS3主机破解将关的资料独立出来看。 The DMCA makes it either a civil or criminal offense to traffic in wares meant to circumvent devices protecting copyrighted works. Performing a similar hack on a mobile phone is lawful. 按照DMCA的规定,运送任何破解版权保护的设备都可能遭到民事或是刑事指控, 在手机上进行类似的破解适合法的。 Sony's attorney, James Gilliland, was quick to point out to Illston that the mobile phone is not at issue here. "The conduct Mr. Hotz has engaged in is still covered by the DMCA," he said. 但$QNY的律师James Gilliland 指出,手机破解的情况并不适用於本案,Hotz所 接触到的部份DMCA仍然涵盖其中。 The judge also backed off on an order that Hotz "retrieve" the code from anybody who he may have forwarded it to. 法官同时否决了要求Hotz「取回」所有已经散布出去程式码的要求。 "It's information. It can't be retrieved. It's just not practical," Illston said. "What would they do, Xerox it and mail it back? " 「程式码算是资讯的一种,一旦放出去就无法取回,而且也不切实际,」法官说 「不然还能怎麽办,难道叫那些人影印然後寄回来?」 Illston said she changed her mind because she was not clearly aware of the details in her earlier order. 法官说让她改变想法的主要原因,是因为她先前对於本案的细节并不非常明了。 "This kind of got away from me and I apologize for that," she said from the bench. 「对於这种前後反覆的状况,我必须道歉。」法官说。 The judge ordered Sony and Kellar to confer with each other on the parameters of where and when Hotz would allow Sony to sift through his computer. She also ordered him not to delete or modify any files connected to the jailbreak. 法官命令$QNY与Hotz的律师必须针对接下来要检查的项目进行协商,同时也禁止 Hotz删除或修改任何与越狱相关的档案。 Meanwhile, Sony is threatening to sue anybody posting the code, even though Sony accidentally tweeted it earlier this week. 在此同时,$QNY威胁要控告所有散布程式码的人,尽管$QNY自己前几天也不小心 推了相关的东西出来。 Sony's attorney, Gilliland, said the Japanese console maker has been sending out an undisclosed number of DMCA "takedown" notices to websites demanding the code's removal. Gilliland 表示这间日本厂商已经发出了不明数量的DMCA下架通知给各大网站, 要求他们移除相关资讯。 Sony is also asking Judge Illston to order Google to surrender the IP addresses and other identifying information of those who have viewed or commented about the jailbreak video on Hotz' private YouTube page. The game maker is also demanding that Twitter provide the identities of a host of hackers who first unveiled a limited version of the hack in December. $QNY同时要求法官下令Google必须提供所有曾经点阅相关影片,或是做出评论人 员相关的IP位址或是其他可供监别身份的资讯。此外,也请求法官下令推特必须 要提供在12月份揭露部份破解资讯骇客的身份资料。 A hearing on that is scheduled next month. Sony is seeking unspecified damages. 下次听证会将於 3月11日举行,预料$QNY将提出要求损害赔偿。 -- 《坚持共识 令官员 禁称对岸为「中国」》2011-02-08 对岸时报 【郑闵声、仇佩芬/台北报导】马英九总统昨天在新春茶会上宣示,为坚持共识, 并维护我方主权,未来政府机关文书用语一律称「对岸」或「大陆」,不称中国,以免 产生「两个中国」的主权混淆情况。http://ppt.cc/aG-3 为响应政府两岸政策、顾及 当事人意愿、维护我尊严及国格,即日起请改称「中国时报」为「对岸时报」、「中国 国民党」为「对岸国民党」。 注:所谓共识,是指马英「」跟「」六仔的共识,跟其他人无关。 --



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◆ From: 140.120.31.133 ※ 编辑: cassine 来自: 140.120.31.133 (02/11 14:34)
1F:推 shortoneal:不太清楚那边的法律,说是这样说,一般能执行到甚麽程 02/11 14:50
2F:→ shortoneal:度呢? 02/11 14:50
3F:→ serlontw:法律真好用,不会抓漏直接铐问别人的资料就行了... 02/11 15:01
4F:推 lwecloud:DMCA中译变成DCMA? 02/11 15:25
※ 编辑: cassine 来自: 140.120.31.133 (02/11 15:37)
5F:→ cassine:改过来了改过来了 02/11 15:37
6F:推 Zein:索尼:我要使用这张魔法卡 翻开~"光之护封剑" 结束这回合 02/11 15:46
7F:→ serlontw: 使出执政官否决权,小兵们给我进攻.... 02/11 15:56
8F:推 doreamon909:为什麽sony对於PS3被破解的反应远大於PSP呢? 02/11 16:04
9F:推 lwecloud:因为最後一块净土被狠狠打了脸(? 02/11 16:14
10F:推 chihpingkuo:面子问题吧我想 02/11 16:14
11F:推 icemango:因为 PS4 还没这麽快吧 ? 02/11 16:43
12F:→ jikanson:PSP最早被破解的时候离NGP出来也还很早 (茶 02/11 20:31
13F:→ megaboost:打算连看过影片或是做过评论的人一起告?大学士有这人力? 02/11 20:41
14F:推 sparco7942:$ONY什麽东西都要 乾脆给一桶瓦斯好了 02/11 23:40
15F:推 ainigi:这个法官有问题,他不了解的东西就只会要被告证明 02/12 01:06
16F:→ ainigi:那以後就不用法官了,我怀疑别人偷东西,去告他 02/12 01:07
17F:→ ainigi:结果法官只会要求被告证明没偷,根本不用告方去证明 02/12 01:08
18F:→ ainigi:我看我邻居玩遥控直升机很羡慕却告邻居偷我的直升机 02/12 01:09
19F:→ ainigi:法官先要求我的邻居证明直升机是他的,不然就归还给我 02/12 01:10
20F:→ ainigi:有这种法官真是万民的福气,大家都以这方式合法抢劫 02/12 01:11
21F:推 MaiLu:推a大,在无罪推论的原则下,举证责任应在控方 02/12 02:14
22F:推 q0212908:举例的真好 02/12 03:04
23F:推 ejgfyrgd:第4段keller的意思是这样会让sony看到hots电脑里所有的资 02/12 08:19
24F:→ ejgfyrgd:料,包括跟破解无关的. 而法官在11段的回应是说她会确保 02/12 08:21
25F:→ ejgfyrgd:sony只能过滤并掌握跟破解有关的资料 02/12 08:24
26F:→ ejgfyrgd:that's the breaks比较像是遗憾,或者是有争议需要厘清的 02/12 08:26
27F:→ ejgfyrgd:意思. 以上有错误或冒犯到的请见谅 02/12 08:27
28F:推 ainigi:法官他自己都不清楚GH怎麽破解的,那他要用什麽保证 02/12 09:36
29F:→ ainigi:Sony只能掌握"破解相关"的资料 02/12 09:37
30F:推 ainigi:这只会让这场闹剧歹戏拖棚,以GH的高调行为,他一定早就知 02/12 09:40
31F:→ ainigi:会走到这一步,只是sony一定会想尽办法从旁去衍伸 02/12 09:41
32F:→ cassine:谢谢e兄指正 02/12 10:09
33F:推 tsming:我连PS3都没有只是上youtube看热闹也要被索尼人肉查IP XD 02/14 06:11
34F:→ tsming:索尼真的罪恶掏天啊:P 02/14 06:12







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