作者cassine (Savannah)
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标题Re: [PS3 ] graf_chokolo: One step closer to Gam …
时间Mon Feb 7 16:52:16 2011
http://xorloser.com/?p=297&cpage=29#comment-3666
marcan says:
February 7, 2011 at 7:51 am
@Jarmster
The performance is exactly identical, it's binary: either you run in
GameOS mode (with GameOS permissions), or OtherOS mode.
graf_chokolo is an lv1 master and his Linux booting method is very
useful in many circumstances, there's no doubt about that. I deeply
appreciate his work.
I'm just saying that he's getting overly excited about Linux-as-GameOS
because he's just discovered it himself (since unfortunately he didn't
follow existing work).
His method of getting Linux to run with GameOS
permissions is novel, useful, and great, but the end result once you
actually run Linux is identical to what I was doing several months
back. He crafted a new alternative path, but several people have been
taking trips to the destination for a while now ;)
marcan表示他很敬佩graf_chokolo在完全没有参考他们在C3研讨会以及之前所提
出的方案的情况下,走出自己的路,而且这条路不比他们的差。只是殊途同归,
两边最终的结果是一样:让Linux 取得GameOS的权限。
marcan把 Linux用档案的形式安装在GameOS里面,透过USB 漏洞启动 Linux,因
为HV本身就会授予GameOS相对应的权限,经由GameOS启动的 Linux自然继承所有
的权限;graf_chokolo则是直接控制HV载入 Linux,并命令HV授予GameOS的权限
,所以两边的终点是一样的。简单讲就是marcan那边是用骗的,骗到GameOS权限
,graf_chokolo却是直接用抢的,直接绑架HV抢到GameOS权限,更乾净俐落。
OTOH, I do believe he can contribute greatly to lv1 integration. For
example,
since I know very little about lv1 internals, my plan was to
eventually be able to install Linux to the GameOS partition, as a
loopfile, so you can install Linux without reformatting anything.
However, since I bet he can figure out how to create new HDD storage
regions, that's a great alternative that's closer to what the old
OtherOS did. I'm not even remotely dismissing his work and I think
he has a lot to contribute towards deeper lv1 understanding and how
to make use of its features effectively, as well as booting Linux
straight from the HV.
marcan的方式是把 Linux以应用程式的方式装在GameOS里面,要用的时候再启动
,所以不需要将磁碟重新格式化;graf_chokolo则是重新分配磁碟的分割区,把
Linux以作业系统的方式装在新的磁区,所以视情况也许需要重新格式化整颗磁
碟。
So pick your poison: the old USB exploit, kmeaw's AsbestOS
installer, or graf_chokolo's lv1 patch. They all get you the same
Linux with the same permissions and performance, it's just a matter
of which booting method you prefer ;)
所以说,想要灌 Linux有两种选择:1.kmeaw 的AsbestOS方案或是;2.graf_cho-
kolo的 Lv1破解方案。要比安全性的话第一个当然是很安全,没有动到太多太底
部的东西,所以变砖的风险很低,但只要$QNY一修补漏洞,就得另觅出路;graf_
chokolo 的方案有阻止$QNY修补漏洞的潜力,但安装的知识及变砖风险较高。
http://xorloser.com/?p=297&cpage=29#comment-3673
marcan says:
February 7, 2011 at 8:02 am
@moscode
It's probably a mismatch between the kernel and the rootfs that you
used. Since this is all pretty new still, unless you're comfortable
compiling your own kernel,
I suggest you wait until I get a chance to
add HDD boot support to asbestos, after which I'll build a nice
Ubuntu image with a patched kernel that should be easy to install.
This is one place where graf's method does have an advantage: since
I assume he knows how to convince the HV to boot with 128MB bootmem,
he can actually run old OtherOS kernels unmodified, including
petitboot. I need some minor kernel patches and some AsbestOS
integration, so you'll need new kernels. My method is also
compatible with 128MB bootmem though,
so eventually we'll probably
both end up using the same kernels anyway.
http://xorloser.com/?p=297&cpage=29#comment-3685
graf_chokolo says:
February 7, 2011 at 9:24 am
Finally mounted all HDD regions of GameOS on my PS3 Linux :-)
Here is my answer to SONY's threats.
UFS2 mounted on Linux – http://pastie.org/1535218
FAT32 mounted on Linux – http://pastie.org/1535222
Working now on VFLASH and FLASH drivers for Linux :-)
And thanks to Mecenefeaa and his Dad for the help with Linux :-)
http://xorloser.com/?p=297&cpage=30#comment-3709
graf_chokolo says:
February 7, 2011 at 6:05 pm
@Mark Webber
I will write a driver on Linux for user-space programs to access the
ENCDEC peripheral device soon :-)
这种东西做出来整个$QNY在 PS3主机上的加解密机制要全部垮台了。
http://xorloser.com/?p=297&cpage=30#comment-3710
graf_chokolo says:
February 7, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Oh no, not SONY agents here again :-)
讨厌啦,$QNY又来吓唬人家了啦!
@SONY
I will not stop my HV hacking and reversing, i cannot, it's like the
air i need to breath, without it i'm dead. I'm not able to stop,
and your threats make me even more motivated :-)
我绝对不会跟你们妥协,因为我得了一种不破解HV就会死的病,$QNY越是吓唬我
就越有破解的动力。怎样,$QNY踹共啊!
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