作者cassine (Savannah)
看板Modchip
标题Re: [PS3 ] SCE向Geohotz和fail0verflow提出诉讼
时间Fri Feb 4 11:05:32 2011
http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/sony-vs-geohot-update-79738/
The legal action between Sony and PlayStation 3 hacker George Hotz
(Geohot) continues, with Hotz' lawyer Stewart Kellar fighting for
jurisdiction in New Jersey, not California. His latest motion seeks a
dismissal of the temporary restraining order due to improper venue and
lack of personal jurisdiction.
简单的说就是geohot的委任律师还在争「诉讼管辖权」,提出抗告要求撤销假处
分。假处分的许可对$QNY来说就像是尚方宝剑,有了这把剑就开始砍人了。
除了总部位在加州的github收到DCMA禁令要求彻下所有相关的程式分享之外,总
部位在挪威的gitorious 也越洋收到了禁令,但在撤下几个程式分享来源後,也
决定接下来除非$QNY能够举证哪一条程式码违反了着作权或是挪威法律,否则将
拒绝配合
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http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/gitorious-fires-back-sony-79739/
As we reported previously, Gitorious received a DMCA takedown notice
from Sony and removed several PS3 dev gits as a result. Now, Gitorious
is fighting back, refusing to remove any more repositories unless Sony
can prove under Norwegian law that they are illegal.
Quote:
We have just sent an email to Sony's legal attournes in reply to
their DMCA takedown notice sent to us yesterday:
Re: Demand for removal of claimed copyright infringing content from
Gitorious.org
This is in reply to your notification of United States Copyright Law
Violations at Listed URLs, dated February 1st 2011. As we confirmed
via email yesterday, the content was taken down from gitorious.org
yesterday at 3.18PM CET.
Your claim made reference to US law, which is not applicable in
Norway. When removing the content from our server placed in Norway,
we did so to avoid being in violation with Norwegian law, to the
degree that Norwegian and US copyright law is compatible.
贵公司的主张乃基於美国法律,但在挪威这里美国法律并不适用。我们配合移
除是因为考量到挪威法跟美国法相同的部份。
However, it is unreasonable, and in conflict with basic legal
principles, to assume someone as guilty until proven innocent.
Allowing any third party to demand the removal of content on
gitorious.org based on unproven claims of copyright infringement
would assume any gitorious.org user would need to prove his innon-
cence under Norwegian law. This is unacceptable to us.
但是,这种「有罪推定」的原则并不合理,且违反法律的基本原则。我们不能
因为第三人提出要求就除相关的程式。提出要求的人要能够证明这些程式确实
侵权,而不是反过来要求原来分享的人想办法证明自己的清白。因此贵公司的
要求恕难从命。
Our Infringement Notice Policy (Infringement Notice Policy) requires
any Infringement Notice to include:
根据我方的侵权处理规定,要提出侵权指控必须有如下要件:
- An identification of the intellectual property right claimed to have
been infringed
必须指明有哪些智慧财产全力遭到侵犯
Since your letter of yesterday contained no reference to Norwegian law
we kindly ask that you prove that the content is in fact in violation
of Norwegian law. We will not act on further Infringement Notices
related to this content until SCEA provides a Norwegian court order
that deems the content in question as being in violation of Norwegian
law.
既然贵公司昨日的来函中什麽都没附上,我们恳请贵公司将相关违反挪威法律
的内容附上,不然除非$QNY能够取得挪威本地的法院命令,我们不会配合。
Gitorious wants to make it absolutely clear that we have no agenda
relating to the repositories in question. Our initial response to this
notice was motivated by the fact that Gitorious could possibly be held
accountable for not responding should this content be deemed illegal
(with reference to "Ehandelsloven" §18). We object deeply to any
violation of the basic legal principle of being innocent until proven
guilty. This is why we have passed the ball back to Sony.
We hope you understand that it is not in Gitorious', or the majority
of its users', best interest to pick this fight. We don't have the
resources nor necessary domain knowledge to assess the legality of all
of our projects, which is why we have terms of service that state that
users carry this responsibility.
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1F:推 atlassys8:愈来愈精采了 XD 02/05 00:52
2F:→ cassine:我是觉得越来越无聊了,反正$QNY只是想牵制住geohot好争取 02/05 01:01
3F:→ cassine:时间而已。 02/05 01:01
4F:推 todotaurus:从国外的消息指出,SONY扩大了解释权,把对象扩及所有 02/06 13:59
5F:→ todotaurus:破解PS3的hacker们,psx-scene似乎也收到sony的律师函~ 02/06 14:00