Catherine Herridge 就是加拿大媒体CBS哥伦比亚广播公司的记者 https://i.imgur.com/plRiqJF.jpeg 访问时间大约40分钟 https://x.com/c__herridge/status/1892766345760014657? 完整逐字稿https://reurl.cc/p9kRWr 记者几乎把目前几乎世界上的重点局势都问过一遍 哈玛斯以色列 乌克兰俄罗斯 以及台海 加拿大 媒体方面都有 简单撷取部分内容 Herridge：美国代表团是否向俄罗斯明确表示 不保证保留他们（俄罗斯）从乌克兰吞并的领土？ Did the U.S. delegation make clear to the Russians that there are no guarantees about the retention of territory they have annexed from Ukraine? Rubio：我们没有讨论任何有关领土方面的具体问题 因为这不是那次会议的目的。 会议的目的是确定是否真正有兴趣讨论和平。 如果有的话那麽这个过程就可以开始了。 我还认为，说「乌克兰人将被排除在外」或「欧洲人将被排除在外」是愚蠢的。 如果没有双方的代表以及他们的观点得到体现，你就无法停止战争。 他们两个都必须同意。 如果乌克兰不同意，俄罗斯就不能同意停火或结束敌对行动。 这必须是双方都能接受的条件。 We didn’t engage in any specifics about territories, none of these, because that wasn’t the purpose of that meeting. The purpose of the meeting was to determine whether there was a real interest in discussing peace or not. If there is, then it’s a process that that can begin. And I also think it’s silly to say, well, the Ukrainians are going be cut out or the Europeans are going to be cut out. You can’t – you can’t find a stop to a war unless both sides and their views are represented. They both have to agree to it. Like, Russia can’t agree to a ceasefire or to an end of hostilities if the Uk rainians don’t agree to it. It has to be on terms acceptable to both sides. Catherine Herridge：那麽国务卿Rubio 有什麽讯号显示俄罗斯是认真对待和平的呢？ So, what’s the signal, Secretary Rubio, that the Russians are serious about p eace? Rubio：嗯这个讯号 我还不能回答他们是否认真对待和平。 这将取决於他们今後采取的态度。 我们唯一达成共识的是我们将谈论和平。 他们提供什麽、他们愿意让步什麽、他们愿意考虑什麽 将决定他们是否认真对待和平。 我们只是还没到达那个阶段。 Well, the signal – I can’t answer whether they’re serious about peace or no t yet. That will have to be determined by the attitude they take moving forward. The only thing we agreed upon is that we’re going to talk about peace. What they offer, what they’re willing to concede to, what they’re willing to consider will determine whether they’re serious about peace or not. We’re just not at that stage yet. 节录2 Catherine Herridge：如果中国对台湾采取行动，美国会保卫台湾吗？ Will the U.S. defend Taiwan if China moves against the island? Rubio：我只想说， 我认为我们对台湾的承诺是明确的， 而且多年来一直由多届政府表达出来。 我们反对任何形式的强迫、强制改变地位。 这是我们的政策；这仍然是我们的政策。我们并不想引发冲突。 我们不想看到冲突。 但我们透过多年的政策——「六项保证」、「台湾关系法」—— 明确表示我们反对以武力、威胁或胁迫改变台湾地位， 这仍然是我们的政策。 这就是我们通常采取的措施，这也为我们提供了稳定性， 我希望它能够继续提供稳定性。 我认为，无论中国人和习近平主席是否同意这一观点，且仍然存在疑问， 但我们不会放弃支持台湾参与国际论坛， 因为目前大陆还不能代表台湾的观点和利益。 因此我们将履行我们所做的所有承诺，但最重要的是 我们要明确表示我们反对任何形式的强制改变地位的行为。 Let me just say that I think our commitments to Taiwan have been clear, and they’ve been expressed through multiple administrations for multiple years. We are against any sort of compelled, forced change of status. That’s been our policy; that remains our policy. We’re not seeking to trigger a conflict. We don’t want to see a conflict. But we have made very clear through years and years of our policies – the Six Assurances, the Taiwan Relations Act – that we are against any sort of change in status by force or by threat or by coercion,and that remains our policy. And that’s generally how we’ve left it, and that’s what’s provided stability, and I hope it continues to provide stability. Whether the Chinese and President Xi shares that view, I think there’s real doubts about it, but we are not going to walk away from, for example, supporting Taiwan being involved in international forums where their views and their interests are not represented by the mainland at this point. So, we’re going to keep all the commitments we’ve made and – but the most important one is to make clear that we are against and oppose any sort of forced change in status. — https://i.imgur.com/hDHgDA2.jpeg --

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