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标题[转录][讨论] 一篇ESPN的优质文(喜Wade, LBJ, CP3者 …
时间Sat Mar 14 14:09:48 2009
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作者: kart (=\) 看板: NBA
标题: [讨论] 一篇ESPN的优质文(喜Wade, LBJ, CP3者必看)
时间: Sat Mar 14 04:29:54 2009
原文很长出处如下,
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=macmullan_jackie&page=Wade-090310
是在Wade在公牛2OT大发神威後写的,当然跟他最近太火也有关系
之所以说喜欢这三个球星的都可以看,是因为这篇文章可以看出他们三人友好的关系
这种形式的竞争让人感觉很舒服,另外写这篇文章的ESPN记者 Jackie MacMullan
好像也常担任场边记者,所以对於球员间的对话可信度应该不低
MIAMI -- Dwyane Wade for MVP? Admit it. You're starting to
consider it, after another stunning performance Monday night when
Miami's rejuvenated star pick-pocketed John Salmons in the final
seconds of double overtime, then hoisted a running 3-pointer as
the buzzer sounded for the win over Chicago. Wade finished with 48
points, 12 assists and 4 steals and so thoroughly controlled the
game, his friend LeBron James sent him postgame props in a text
message.
(迈阿密)典伟拿MVP?承认吧!你也不得不开始考虑这个可能性了。尤其在
礼拜一对公牛的那场两次延长赛中他令人震惊的表现,包括最後几秒的抄截
和移动中投进的三分压哨球!典伟该场比赛得了48分,12助攻和四次抄截,
并且完完全全的操控了比赛。而他的好友喇叭詹也在赛後传了一个赞美的
简讯恭喜他。
Wade continues to nearly single-handedly coax the Heat into the
thick of the Eastern Conference playoff picture, a remarkable
turnaround from last season when his team won just 15 games and it
would have been a cruel prank to suggest Wade belonged among the
league's elite.
典伟继续靠着单人之力率领热火一步一步走向东区季後赛之林,尤其在
去年他的球队整季只赢了15场,更显得这项成就价值非凡,也让他得以
属於联盟最好的球员之一。
When Wade is feeling right, he is one of the most devastating
pick-and-roll players in the game, bursting to the basket, as Kobe
Bryant described it, "like a bat out of hell that nobody can
catch.''
当典韦健康的时候,他是联盟里靠档切战术强攻篮下时最可怕的球员之一,
Kobe就这麽形容过:「就像是一支地狱冲出来的蝙蝠,没人拦的下他。」
But Bryant wasn't talking about Wade in January 2008. Nobody was.
The Miami Heat, less than two years removed from their first NBA
championship, had faltered so quickly and so thoroughly that even
their mounting losses were no longer noteworthy. As Wade struggled
to overcome a dislocated shoulder and arthroscopic knee surgery,
which stripped him of his trademark explosiveness, the Heat
dropped 15 in a row, then 26 out of 27. The NBA merely yawned.
当然Kobe说的不是2008年一月的伟得。当时无人如此认为。当时热火在夺
下他们第一次冠军後不到两年,衰败的速度快到已经没有人会注意他们到
底又输了几场比赛。而伟得也在肩伤和膝盖伤痛的侵袭下,失去了他的最
大武器:爆发力。热火去年连输15场,然後在27场里面输了26场,而整个
NBA球迷的反应也只是哈欠连连。
Miami -- and D-Wade -- had become irrelevant.
因为对他们来说,热火和伟得已经变得不是那麽重要。
"I can't believe how quickly we don't matter,'' he told
then-assistant coach Eric Spoelstra.
当时的副教练(现在的教练)说:「我真无法想像我们那麽快就变得无足轻重」
On Christmas Day last season against Cleveland, Wade maneuvered
through the key and tried to elevate over LeBron James, his
trusted friend and ardent rival. But Wade couldn't manufacture the
lift he needed, and James swatted Wade's shot away like a
nettlesome house fly.
在上一季的耶诞大赛中(2007-12-25)热火被安排对上骑士,伟得展现他
一向在禁区中的身手并且试图在喇叭詹面前灌篮--他的好朋友同时也是他
一直以来的竞争对手。然而伟得并没有办法取得他所需要的高度,而喇叭
詹则向拍蚊子一样轻轻松松把这一球拍掉。
"You all right?" James asked Wade as they ran down the court.
当攻守转换时,喇叭詹问了典伟:「你还好吧?」
"I don't have it,'' Wade said. "I'm hurt.''
典伟回答:「我没有爆发力了,我还在受伤中。」
"You gotta sit out, man,'' James told him.
喇叭詹说「那你应该坐在场边观战的阿,真是的。」
"I can't,'' Wade said. After the game, James texted him with three
words of advice: Shut it down.
伟得则回答「我不可能阿!」。
该场比赛後,喇叭詹向他的好友传了一封三个字的简讯表达他的建议,
「关机吧。」
"He wasn't D-Wade,'' James said. "You could tell by his game.''
LBJ回忆说「他根本不是我们知道的典伟,你可以从他的比赛中轻易看出。」
James paused to consider what has transpired in the 15 months
since that holiday encounter.
在距离当时比赛15个月後的今天,LBJ又被问及现在对伟得的表现时,
"Let me tell you something,'' he said. "I wouldn't want to test
him now.''
他说:「让我跟你说吧,我现在可不想去测试他的能耐。」
Ask the Toronto Raptors whether Wade is feeling better. He dropped
42 points and eight assists on them Friday, then 24 hours later
submitted 25 points, 12 assists and four steals in a loss to
James' Cavs. The week before, he had rallied the Heat from a
16-point deficit against the Knicks by torching them for 46 points
-- 24 in the fourth quarter. Factor in his 31 points and 16
assists against Detroit on Feb. 24 and his 50 points against
Orlando two days before that, and no wonder the league's top
scorer has aroused the interest of the same fan base that ignored
him a season ago.
问暴龙队伟得是否健康吧。他在礼拜五的对战时得到42分八助攻,
而24小时之後他则在对抗喇叭詹的骑士得了25分12助攻。在上个礼拜,
他带领热火从落後纽约16分的泥淖里逆转得胜并且在第四节囊括了24分
(整场46分)。当然也要算进他对底特律31分16助攻和对魔术时的50分。
这些表现成就了他现在也是mvp候选人的理所当然,很多在一季前忽视他的
粉丝群也都回笼了。
Wade isn't delusional. He knows the league MVP award has been
handicapped as a two-man race between LeBron and Kobe, but after
promising he wouldn't campaign for his own remarkable resurgence,
he finally said last week he felt he merited consideration.
典伟也没被冲昏头。他知道联盟的mvp目前是属於喇叭詹和kobe的两人竞争。
虽然如此,并且保证他没有想过去争取mvp支持,但是上礼拜他也松口说出
被列入考量让他高兴。
"It's been a long road back,'' Wade said. "I'm just grateful
people are recognizing what I've done.''
典伟说着:「回来的路是那麽漫长,我只能说我很感激人们能认知到
我有多麽努力。」
Count James among the growing number of NBA observers who believe
Wade belongs in the MVP conversation.
很多观察nba的一群人开始认为伟得属於mvp候选人之一,这群人也包括
喇叭詹。
"To me,'' James said, "the way you judge an MVP is if you take a
guy off their team, who struggles the most? Like last year. If you
took Kobe off the Lakers or Chris Paul off the Hornets, who's
struggling the most? It's the Hornets, right? But everyone has
their own set of rules. Other people look at it as an individual
thing. They go for numbers. Now, if you were looking at strictly
the team last year, then that means either Paul Pierce or Kevin
Garnett should have won it.
喇叭詹说到:「对我来说,要衡量一个MVP很简单,只要想如果此人
不在队上时,哪一队战绩会最惨?就像是去年一样。如果你把kobe或是
CP3从他们队上移除时,谁会最惨?是黄蜂,对吧?当然每个人有每个人
一拖拉酷的规则。也有些人认为是看个人表现,所以他们只看数据。而
当你只看队上成绩,则你会认为去年包皮和假奶才应该得。」
"So I don't know what the [MVP] voters want. But whatever they're
looking for, I'm pretty sure D-Wade has it.''
「说了那麽多,我的意思是不管你从什麽角度看,今年典伟都有这些投票者
想要的特质。」
"I'd make the same case for Dwyane that people used to make for me
when I was on a team that didn't have a lot of talent and we
still managed to get to the playoffs,'' Bryant said. "People don't
realize how difficult it is to do literally everything to get
your team in.''
Kobe则说「我认为伟得和我当年带领一群虾兵蟹将进季後赛是一样的,
人们不了解一个人几乎要做所有的事来带领球队有多麽困难。」
In Wade's case, that means leading his team in scoring, assists,
steals and minutes. It means corralling a young nucleus of Michael
Beasley, Mario Chalmers and Daequan Cook (with Joel Anthony and
Chris Quinn in smaller roles) that averages 22.8 years old and
flounders without him on the floor.
就典伟来说,这代表他是对上得分助攻抄截和上场时间的第一名。
这也代表他必须带一群平均年龄不到23岁的小将上场厮杀,尤其
这一群小将没他在场上就马上开始摆烂。
The night before the Heat's Feb. 21 game with Philadelphia, Wade
was watching game film and noted his energy level had slipped a
little. The tendinitis in his knee tends to flare up with heavy
minutes, so he texted Spoelstra, now Miami's head coach, and asked
the coach to consider paring his minutes back to 36-38 a game.
在2-21号一场对76人的比赛前,典韦看了一些比赛的片段并且注意到
他的能量似乎下滑了一些。他受伤的膝盖三不五时又开始作怪,尤其
是他的上场时间又开始上扬。於是他传了一封简讯给教头并且希望教
头能稍微控制他的上场时间到36-38分钟一场。
Here's why that's close to impossible. After Wade helped Miami
build a 20-10 lead over the Sixers, he took a well-deserved
breather. When he returned 3 minutes and 53 seconds later, Philly
was winning 26-22.
然而不可能的原因在此:当典伟帮助球队取得20-10的领先时,教头
也安心的给了他应得的休息喘口气。不过当他离席的四分钟,76人已经
以26-22领先了。
"Hey!'' Wade admonished his young teammates as he returned to the
court. "Get your heads on straight.''
伟得上场时对热火这一群还不挡用的年轻小子咆啸着:
「嘿!专心点!」
Wade willingly left all the speeches and the noise and the
motivational stuff to Shaquille O'Neal, Antoine Walker, Gary
Payton and Alonzo Mourning during their 2006 championship run,
even though he led the team in points, assists, steals and 3-point
shooting and was second only to O'Neal in blocks during the NBA
Finals.
2006年的伟得乐意的把场上场下鞭策後辈的工作留给大欧,Walker和
赔顿以及莫宁这干老将。即使他当年也是队上的得分、助攻、抄截和
三分球王。即使在总冠军赛也只有火锅输给大欧。
That title team was built for the moment, and when Spoelstra
walked into the gym the following September to check on the
progress of the team, there wasn't a single player there.
那只冠军球队只是暂时的。而当当时的助理教练在该年九月走进球馆
却发现没有一个球员在练球时。
"We celebrated our championship a little too long,'' Spoelstra
said.
他说:「看来我们庆祝我们的冠军太久了!」
Wade was not immune to that. He basked in the glow of his new
celebrity, frequenting the most exclusive Miami hot spots and
enjoying the buzz that comes with being the Finals MVP. He was 24
years old, and he had it all: a championship ring, a beautiful
wife and the instant respect of his NBA peers.
点伟也并非免疫。他也沈溺於他新的名人光环,常常上迈阿密当地最热
们的几个地方,享受着他总冠军mvp带来的好处。当年的他24岁,而他
已经有了全部:总冠军戒指、漂亮老婆和NBA同侪们尊敬的眼神。
The thrill was gone as quickly as it had come. He injured his
shoulder and couldn't shake the nagging tendinitis in his knee.
Miami "defended'' its title by getting swept by the Chicago Bulls
in the first round of the playoffs the following spring. Then, in
2007-08, the team unraveled as coach Pat Riley questioned O'Neal's
commitment and conditioning, and the big fella claimed Riley used
him as a scapegoat for an aging, crumbling nucleus.
不过这一切来的快去的也快。他在隔年比赛中伤了肩膀,并且膝盖的
肌腱炎也迟迟未癒。迈阿密在季後赛卫冕保卫战中第一轮以直落四被
公牛横扫。而去年因为莱理对大欧的体能保持不满而让大欧又开始炮
火四射的攻击球团及教练。
Wade attempted to straddle the thin line of pledging solidarity to
a teammate and of loyalty to the coach who had drafted him. It
was an optimal moment to exert some leadership, to take a stand,
but Wade deferred.
处於球队裂解的边缘,当时其实是伟得展现他领导能力的大好时刻,
同时也是对选中他的伯乐莱理展现忠心的良机,不过伟得却犹豫了。
"I wasn't comfortable with it,'' he said.
当时他说,「我对领导实在不在行。」
By March 2008, O'Neal was gone, the Heat were still losing and
Wade's knee was still aching.
2008年三月,大欧走人,热火却还是继续输球,伟得也继续被膝伤
困扰着。
The Heat shut him down, then flew in an OssaTron shock wave
treatment machine to increase the blood flow to his ailing knee.
They hooked him up to the machine, which, according to Quinn (who
had the procedure done on his foot), "is like putting your finger
in an electric socket and leaving it there for 30 minutes.''
热火决定让他停机,并且送他去做了热电波的疗程来增进他膝盖的
血液循环。照队友Quinn(做过类似疗程)的形容,这种治疗法就像是
把你的手指头放到电击里电个30分钟的感觉。
In late spring, Wade went to see acclaimed conditioning expert Tim
Grover, Michael Jordan's former trainer, who immediately began
bending and extending Wade's knee in ways that made him anxious.
Grover, who had worked with Wade in his rookie season, was
startled by the change in the kid's demeanor.
去年春天末,伟得决定去找知名的训练员Tim(同时也是老乔的前训练员),
Tim看到伟得,则毫不手软当下就把典伟的膝盖凹来凹去,让典伟感到非
常紧张。Tim也曾经在典伟菜鸟球季时训练过他,对於典伟的反应则是颇
为惊讶。
"He seemed to have lost quite a bit of his confidence,'' Grover
said.
Tim说:「这小子似乎失去了很多自信心。」
For five weeks, Wade toiled with Grover, doing basketball skills,
conditioning drills and rehabilitation treatment. In the sixth
week, he called James and Paul and asked them to join him in
Chicago.
在接下来的五个礼拜,典伟跟着Tim一起训练,练习篮球技能,并且复健。
而到第六个礼拜时,他打了通电话要喇叭詹和CP3到芝加哥和他一起练球看看。
"I need to see where I am,'' he said.
他说:「我需要知道我复原的如何。」
The trio of NBA stars scrimmaged with some of Grover's other
clients. Wade was initially cautious, but when Paul threw an
alley-oop lob to him near the rim, he did what came naturally.
这三个NBA明星就和Tim的一些其他球员客户一起斗牛。伟得一开始表现
的战战兢兢,然而当Paul无预警的丢了一个高抛传球给他後,他做了他
本能上会去做的事。
"He went up and got it,'' Paul said.
CP3说:「他跳起来并且完成了灌篮!」
"OK, he's back,'' James declared as D-Wade jammed the ball
through.
喇叭詹则直接了当的宣布:「OK,他回来了!」
The final test required Wade to stand on top a 4-foot box. When
Grover gave him the signal, Wade jumped as high as he could,
pulled his knees up to his chest, then landed on the floor. By
Grover's calculations, the force with which Wade landed was akin
to being dropped in a free fall from 10 feet in the air.
最後一个测试需要典伟站在四尺高的箱子上。当Tim给他指示,他需要往上
一蹦跳到最高,把膝盖驱在胸前,然後在落地。按照计算看来,这下落的力道
如同从10尺高的空中坠下。
"I knew if the muscles in his legs were strong enough to stick the
landing, he'd be fine,'' Grover said.
Tim大喇喇的说:「我知道如果他的肌肉复原完好让他能稳当落地,
应付NBA他会没问题的。」
Wade flew to Beijing, happily served as a super sub and led the
U.S. in scoring on the way to Olympic gold. He observed Bryant and
James carefully, knowing that when he returned to Miami, he would
be expected to exhibit some leadership of his own.
之後典伟飞到北京,高兴的做美国队的超级替补并且以得分王带领美国夺冠。
他同时也仔细的观察kobe和喇叭詹,知道当他回到迈阿密,他必须要展现一些
领导者的气息。
Bryant shared his knowledge by pulling players aside and quietly
discussing it one on one. Then there was James, the most vocal
leader Wade had ever seen, barking out orders on the defensive end
of the floor like a middle linebacker in the NFL.
kobe是那种属於会把球员拉到一旁默默讨论战术的类型。当然也有喇叭詹,
会用不同口气在场上指导战术,就如同美式足球里看到的middle linebacker。
而这种领导气质是典伟不曾见过的。
"I don't have that in me,'' Wade fretted.
典伟有点泄气的承认:「我可没有这种能力。」
"Then don't fake it,'' Bryant told him. "You can't be someone
you're not. There are different ways to lead. I'm not LeBron. I'm
not going to run around at 100 miles per hour. I have to do it my
way, and so do you.''
kobe则对他说「你也不需要假装,你并不能变成一个不是你自己的人。
有不同领导的方式。我也不是喇叭詹。我也不会以100mph的速度跑来跑去。
我必须要用我自己的方式,你也一样。」
When Wade returned to South Beach, Spoelstra noted a subtle shift.
Wade always had been the first one in line for drills, but now he
was calling out players who didn't toe the line. The young guys
responded. Their enthusiasm was contagious, refreshing.
当伟得回到家乡後,教练发现伟得有一点小改变了。典伟从来就是
第一个去排队练球的,然而现在他会去把那些不想排队练球的球员
叫出来。年轻的球员则有了正面反应,热情也再度点燃。
"They bring so much spirit,'' Spoelstra said. "At times we need a
bowl of Ritalin, but there's no doubt Dwyane has fed off their
energy.''
教练说球队再度充满能量,典伟居功厥伟。
Wade's future is connected to players like Beasley, who Riley (now
the team president) says could be the most offensively gifted
player he's ever seen.
典伟的未来也颇光明,尤其有必私立这位莱理称为他看过进攻能力最突出
的球员。
"If Beasley averaged 30 minutes a night, he'd score 24 points a
game,'' Riley said. "If he played 40 minutes, he'd lead the league
in scoring.
莱理曾说过「如果必私立能打30分钟一晚上,他将会平均24分,如果他打
40分钟一晚,那他就会是联盟得分王。」
"Now, he might give up 30 on the other end. There's a lot of
things right there, but a lot of things wrong, too.''
「当然他现在得分的同时,也可能会让对方得个30分,在他身上有很多
对的因子,当然也有很多错的因子。」
When Beasley's defense faltered and his minutes dwindled, Wade
quietly pulled him aside the way Bryant did with him in Beijing.
The message: Be patient.
当必私立的防守烂掉时,他的上场时间也减少。典伟这时就会学kobe把
他拉到一旁并且要他有耐心。
"I've been 'the man' my whole life,'' Beasley said. "I've never
had to take a back seat to anyone.
必私立说到:「我一辈子都是老大,我从来不曾需要隐身到任何人之後。
当典伟看到我不爽时,他就会告诉我,我需要你,有时候我需要听到这
种鼓励。」
"When D-Wade sees me getting discouraged, he tells me, 'I need
you.' Sometimes I need to hear that.''
Here's the irony: Wade really does need them. Even with his gaudy
stats and his new 225-pound frame with 6 percent body fat, this
has not been a dream season. His personal life is in shambles, the
result of a marriage gone horribly sour and embarrassingly
public.
伟得不是开玩笑的,他真的需要这群小夥子。即使他的魔人数据和他
新练成的225磅以及6%的体脂肪的身体。这个球季也没有那麽梦幻。
他的私人生活在崩溃边缘,尤其是他的婚姻变成梦靥,并且让人羞愧的被
公诸於世。
There have been accusations by his estranged wife, Siohvaughn
Wade, of infidelity, sexual misconduct and drug use, prompting
Wade to counter with a defamation suit. He remains in a bitter
custody dispute over his two young sons. He acknowledges he's made
mistakes, "but they are private things I shouldn't have to talk
about with everyone,'' he said.
他的前妻控诉典伟不忠诚,性行为不检点还用药。这些指控让伟得面临
一个毁誉的官司。他也还在为两个儿子的监护权争执。他承认他做了一
些错事,不过他说:「这些都是私人事件,而我并不想跟大家说。」
The effect it's had, Riley said, is obvious, but the mental
resolve Wade has demonstrated has allowed him to play on. Being a
franchise player, Riley reminded him, means owning up to your
actions.
莱理也说到这些场外纷争对他绝对有明显的影响,不过心理素质坚韧的
典伟则让他继续得以打下去。莱理也提醒典伟,作为一个看板球星,
你必须要以身作则才行。
"He feels he's been wronged by a lot of what's been said," Riley
said. "These kinds of stories can be insidious. But I told him he
also needs to take responsibility for the things he is culpable
for.''
莱理说到:「他认为记者对他绘声绘影的描述很多都是错的,的确,
记者常常都会编故事,不过我也对他说,他必须对他造成的一些事情
负责。」
Before Riley acquired veteran center Jermaine O'Neal from Toronto,
he flew the player in for a private meeting and said he expected
a commitment to the low-post game and a rededication to
conditioning. Then Riley asked Wade what he thought.
在莱理交易小欧来之前,他要小欧飞来跟他会面,并且跟他保证他还有
低位的能力并且维持良好的体态。之後莱理问了典伟的意见。
"Bring him in,'' Wade said. "We'll make it work.''
伟得说:「把他带过来,我们会打出成绩来的。」
"It was a great show of his leadership,'' Riley said. "Reminded me
of Magic [Johnson].''
莱理满意的说:「他展现了他的领导能力,让我想起魔术强森。」
With Jermaine O'Neal in the lineup, the Heat present a more
balanced offense that opens up possibilities for Wade that haven't
been there since Shaq was at his peak with Miami.
小欧的到来让热火的进攻在大欧离开後,更加的平衡了。
A year ago, if you had elicited an honest response from Wade, he
would have told you it was time to seriously contemplate a change
of scenery when his contract expires in 2010. While he'd be
foolish to eliminate that as an option, he clearly has been
rejuvenated by his teammates. They are young and loose and free --
just like his game again. Along with being healthy, Wade has
honed his midrange game and his ball distribution.
一年前如果问典伟有关交易的意见,他往往会只巫其词,并且拿着
2010年要过期的合约来做挡箭牌。然而现在的点伟已经浴火重生,
就如同他年轻洋溢的队友般。健康的点伟在中距离和传球上也有进步。
"It used to be, 'OK, let's take away his drive and let him shoot
it,''' Cleveland coach Mike Brown said. "Now it's, 'Hey, let's
take away his drive and pray he misses it.'''
骑士队的小胖教练说:「以前对付伟得,只要尽量挡住他切入的路径,
让他拔起来投,现在则是挡住他的切入,然後祈祷他不要投进。」
The young Heat players have helped Wade set up a return to the
postseason, but the MVP hardware might have to wait until the Heat
mature into contenders.
年轻的热火球员帮助典伟回到季後赛,不过要拿到MVP可能要等到
热火能冲击冠军在说。
"It's all right,'' Wade said. "I've always said the only MVP I
really care about is the one you get in the Finals.''
伟得说:「没差,我总是说我唯一在意的mvp是总冠军那一座。」
Wade already has been there, done that, yet he is no longer a
wide-eyed kid content to lead by example.
"This time,'' D-Wade said, "it's on me.''
诚然,典伟已经做到过,然而他已经不是之前那个靠着大欧和老将们的领导力
就满足的小孩子。
典伟说:「这一次,全队都靠我了。」
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1F:推 hllwolfkhan:老实说这季MVP应该换喇叭詹拿了~~~ 03/14 04:30
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17F:推 dscndg:苏胡 CP3:我觉得我有点被忽略 XD 03/14 10:38
18F:推 dwyanelin:太累了眼残= = 想说怎麽这麽扯 03/14 10:39
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24F:推 clkdtm32:不看先推 03/14 15:18
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26F:推 jacktsaila:毕斯利那段 "当他看到我不爽"? discourage是"不爽"的 03/14 16:07
27F:→ jacktsaila:意思吗? (我不是来乱XD 是问真的啦) 那小毕真的还满屌 03/14 16:08
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