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新闻来源:https://reurl.cc/Wxyeqe 删减掉完全与五月天无关部分 Taiwan celebrities in crossfire of political battle as tensions with China rise By Nectar Gan, CNN Published 11:57 PM EDT, Mon June 3, 2024 Taiwanese singer Ashin Chen of Mayday performs at the Bird's Nest stadium in Beijing, China on May 27, 2023. Fred Lee/Getty Images -- CNN — As Taiwan’s biggest rock band took to the stage in Beijing late last month, their home island was reckoning with the latest act of Chinese aggression. For two days, the self-governing democracy was encircled by Chinese warships and fighter jets in the largest military exercises in over a year. Addressing the tens of thousands of fans at the sold-out Bird’s Nest stadium, Mayday’s lead singer Ashin did not mention the aggression. But what he did say has since caused no less friction. “We Chinese people must eat roast duck when we come to Beijing!” he said. It may sound like an innocuous travel tip, but his choice of words was freighted with political meaning. Ashin – one of Taiwan’s biggest music stars – had referred to himself as Chinese, instead of Taiwanese. The choice of words delighted the crowd, but sparked immediate anger back home – reflecting the precarious position of Taiwanese stars with mainland appeal. Growing numbers of people in Taiwan – especially the younger generation – view themselves as distinctly Taiwanese. Many have no desire to be part of China, whose authoritarian ruling Communist Party views the self-ruled island as its territory, despite having never controlled it. Beijing has long sought to bolster its claims by emphasizing the cultural and historical ties between the two sides, but polls show only 3% of Taiwan’s population identify primarily as Chinese – while 67% see themselves as primarily Taiwanese, and less than 10% now support an immediate or eventual unification with China. Under the leadership of Xi Jinping, Beijing has become more aggressive toward Taiwan, and has abandoned official ties since the island’s ruling Democratic Progressive Party came to power in 2016. But there is still considerable cultural overlap. Both sides speak Mandarin, meaning musicians from Taiwan – population 23 million – often seek to enter the lucrative market of 1.4 billion across the strait. As Beijing and Taipei have drifted further apart politically, these artists have come under increasing pressure to toe Beijing’s political line. The same evening that Mayday was playing in Beijing, Taiwanese pop queen Jolin Tsai proclaimed on stage that fans in “our Chinese city of Nanchang” were the most passionate, as she performed in the southern city. The phrase was taken by some Chinese fans as implying she and her audience were compatriots. -- CNN has reached out to Tsai for comment. On Saturday, CCTV publicly endorsed Taiwanese celebrities who shared its post, sharing the screenshots of 36 such reposts – fueling a further backlash against those who hadn’t. “Those who didn’t endorse and take a stand, can you not come to the mainland to make money?” said a top comment with 55,000 upvotes. Lin Chen-yu, a lecturer at Cardiff University who specializes in China’s censorship of Taiwanese music, said acts such as Tsai and Mayday were facing problems because “both the government and private sectors are increasingly reacting to and engaging with digital nationalism.” And the marketing apparatus that can launch mainland careers is equally set up to avoid upsetting Beijing authorities. “For instance, management or touring contracts for activities in China increasingly include clauses that ban celebrities from making statements against the ideologies of the Chinese state,” she said. “This, of course, includes any pro-Taiwan statements.” Celebrities deemed as crossing Beijing’s political red lines are often blocked from the Chinese market, with their names and works erased from television and online platforms. “For example, musicians’ work can be easily removed from streaming platforms (in China), often automatically, if their names become keywords for censors on these platforms and media,” Lin said. -- Backlash at home Mayday appear to have avoided upsetting officials in China during their Beijing show, but many Taiwanese fans say they are deeply disappointed. A whole generation of Taiwanese people grew up listening to the band’s happy-go-lucky, pop-infused rock songs about the hope and heartbreak of youth, so much so that the 25-year-old band is sometimes dubbed the “Asian Beatles.” “As much as I used to like you, now I’m just as disappointed,” said a comment on Mayday’s Facebook page, after the Beijing concert. “I’m Taiwanese. Goodbye.” a fan said on Ashin’s Facebook page. CNN has reached out to Mayday’s record company B’in Music for comment. On Monday, Taiwan’s Mainland Affairs Council weighed in, accusing the Chinese Communist Party of requiring Taiwanese artists to express a political stance. “Such political maneuvers will not win over the hearts and minds of Taiwanese people, and will only deepen Taiwanese society’s resentment towards the Chinese Communist regime,” the council said in a statement. The remarks and retweets by Taiwanese artists of the CCTV unification post came against the backdrop of China’s largest show of force around the island in more than a year. The Chinese military called the drills a “strong punishment” for Taiwan’s so-called “separatist acts” and said they were designed to test its ability to “seize power.” That military muscle-flex was sparked by the inauguration of Taiwan’s new President Lai Ching-te, who is openly loathed by Beijing for championing the island’s sovereignty and distinct identity. -- As the backlash mounted in Taiwan against the musicians, Lai struck a conciliatory tone. “This is not the first time, and probably not the last, that Taiwanese artists are forced to make a political stand in China,” said the leader. “Under the roof of others, it’s one thing what our artists say, but what’s more important is what they truly feel in their hearts. We should offer them understanding and empathy.” Beijing officials said the Taipei administration was wrong to say artists were being coerced. Zhu Fenglian, a spokesperson for the Taiwan Affairs Office, said Taiwanese celebrities who reposted the Weibo “reunification” message wanted “to express that both sides of the Taiwan Strait are both Chinese.” “These are natural expressions of true feelings,” Zhu said. Taiwanese acts in the Chinese market will continue to endure an invidious position, said Lin, of Cardiff University. “However, it is time for the industries in Taiwan to re-evaluate what this means for our society,” she said. “The circulation of these works comes with a price – a significant loss of freedom and autonomy.” 希望五月天也能看得懂 --



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1F:推 kingbob: 帮翻译:我有多喜欢你,就对你有多失望 06/04 22:02
2F:推 MaydayExile: 帮忙画线「发展的代价是自由和自主权的重大丧失」 06/04 23:19
3F:→ MaydayExile: 因为表态上国际新闻的五月天是不是第一人?创纪录了 06/04 23:19
4F:→ MaydayExile: 相关的报导接下来还会继续有 06/04 23:20
5F:推 igundam: 推 连国际新闻都注意到了 06/04 23:50
6F:推 tingchou909: 五月天啊,你们到底有没有看到你们一句话影响到的层 06/05 00:48
7F:→ tingchou909: 面有多多...... 06/05 00:48
8F:推 ccs97a17: 而且撰写这篇新闻的是驻香港的中国记者 06/05 00:53
9F:推 mymayday5: 当我们觉得为了这种事上国际新闻很丢脸 甚至害怕国际因 06/05 01:06
10F:→ mymayday5: 此误会台湾人民的意志 但中国主唱会这麽想吗? 06/05 01:06
11F:→ mitsurino: 他会想泡在treads跟小红书就世界和平了 06/05 01:07
12F:推 wanting0314: 读这一篇BGM可以点九号球 06/05 01:19
13F:推 chu3: 背刺感满满 真的很无言 06/05 05:37
14F:推 chehao: 五月天真棒 让世界看到台湾。 06/05 07:12
15F:推 morila: 用这样方式让人看见台湾,好丢脸 06/05 08:24
16F:推 chieh31: 五月天曾经有机会用别的议题上国际的 06/05 09:58
17F:推 takay: 竟然还敢提亚洲披头四,以後别提了,根本比不上 06/05 10:17
18F:推 yaki049: 竟然因为这种原因上国际新闻 真的呵呵 06/05 11:26
19F:推 snoopy63: 变成中国人後红到国际欸! 06/05 11:33
20F:推 weitn29: 首次觉得喜欢五月天是一件丢脸的事,我连安全帽上的贴纸 06/05 11:34
21F:→ weitn29: 都撕下来了!唉 06/05 11:34
22F:推 tenlove: 晚节不保 06/05 11:45
23F:推 chieh31: 突然庆幸329太忙赶不及刺青 06/05 12:17
24F:推 kitty7366: 最近下雨临时拿备用雨衣也犹豫一下到底要不要穿上去… 06/05 12:43
25F:→ kitty7366: 唉 06/05 12:43
26F:推 phoebe147: 全新的历史定位 唉 06/05 12:46
27F:推 tingchou909: 把雨衣後面MAYDAY字样打X就可以穿了 06/05 12:49
28F:→ snoopy63: 我手上有20几件雨衣... 06/05 12:52
29F:推 mickeybo: 我也有20几件雨衣!我没想过五月天会这样上CNN...... 06/05 12:58
30F:推 chieh31: 好险雨衣之前捐出去大部份了(? 06/05 13:02
31F:推 coru: 看到脆友说他台中的朋友刚改装完五月天复康巴士,大概是年 06/05 13:06
32F:→ coru: 初捐的… 06/05 13:06
33F:推 sdf753: 唉!好感叹….. 说不出其他的话 06/05 14:09
34F:推 tenlove: MAYDAY改成MONEYDAY 06/05 14:16
35F:推 snoopy63: 还是谢谢五月天的善举,但就这样了... 06/05 14:38
36F:推 bigaltis01: 想当年上BBC上CNN 都是光荣的里程碑 06/05 14:45
37F:→ bigaltis01: 如今却是因为这样登上国际 只能说不胜唏嘘 06/05 14:46
38F:推 xbp: 唉! 真的失望 06/05 16:05
39F:推 Kunimoto: 让世界看到台湾也有披头四 06/05 16:14
40F:推 tenlove: 商业团体狂想办法赚粉丝钱 06/05 16:17
41F:推 Miyanishi25: 不胜唏嘘.. 06/05 20:26
42F:推 jackyzhes: 约翰蓝侬??????????????? 06/05 22:33
43F:推 wenkaishui: 雨衣无罪啊XD,最近常下雨,可以穿一次就直接丢了, 06/05 23:44
44F:→ wenkaishui: 不是很刚好吗XD 06/05 23:44
45F:→ wenkaishui: 身体健康最重要,每个人都是 06/05 23:44
46F:推 syrien: 比较糟的是声量高的艺人是有影响力的,如果对年轻人产生不 06/06 00:09
47F:→ syrien: 好的影响,那真的很不妙。可能连自己是哪里人都认知出问题 06/06 00:10
48F:→ syrien: 对,台湾是民主国家能包容这些脱序行为,但真的很不鼓励 06/06 00:12
49F:推 ariel0829: 约翰蓝侬:喂喂,气到从棺材里弹出来罗 06/06 09:44
50F:推 whitefire: 刚刚看日本节目也报导了 06/06 10:17
51F:→ weitn29: 成为全世界的五月天,却是负面的呈现,不胜唏嘘... 06/06 11:49
52F:推 EURISKO: 泪推MoneyDay 06/06 12:14
53F:推 kathysnow: 唉~只能说 自己选择的 自己承担~ 06/07 01:31
54F:推 tenlove: 2014已经体谅一次 2024他们自找的 06/07 07:00
55F:→ bonneluck: 脸书上很多小孩在红菜头脸书下觉得阿信说的也没有什麽 06/07 09:42
56F:→ bonneluck: 不对,就像我小时候相信五月天而被影响那样,如果五月 06/07 09:42
57F:→ bonneluck: 天对於台湾社会的小孩造成这样的领导效果,我此生真的 06/07 09:42
58F:→ bonneluck: 很难原谅五月天,或许每个人都觉得五月天不可能出来回 06/07 09:42
59F:→ bonneluck: 应,但对我而言这件事如果不能被正面回应,我此生都没 06/07 09:42
60F:→ bonneluck: 有办法再相信五月天的人格与音乐 06/07 09:42
61F:→ bonneluck: 如果阿信或五月天还是抱持着那种以为捐点钱就能洗掉这 06/07 09:46
62F:→ bonneluck: 些价值理念上无法容忍的参差你大错特错了,事情的发酵 06/07 09:46
63F:→ bonneluck: 与後续红菜头让人恶心的操作更是把这件事推向没有挽回 06/07 09:46
64F:→ bonneluck: 空间的境地 06/07 09:46
65F:推 chieh31: 真的越来越没有办法挽回QQ 06/07 09:49
66F:推 chu3: 他们不可能回应的啦!一解释就表示他们其实不是中国人,小 06/07 10:22
67F:→ chu3: 粉红又要暴怒了 06/07 10:22
68F:→ chu3: 所以绝对装死到底 反正还是很多人支持 06/07 10:22
69F:→ snoopy63: 前仆後继加入五月天的新粉那麽多,谁管你老粉...认清吧 06/07 10:25
70F:→ snoopy63: 大家 06/07 10:25
71F:推 askacis: 韭菜可割可弃,反正年底还是乖乖入场 06/07 14:03
72F:→ suba1121: 推bonn大 这影响真的很可怕 我只能说现在的小孩出生的年 06/07 19:49
73F:→ suba1121: 代跟阿信那个年代所接收的教育资讯是有差异的 06/07 19:49
74F:→ suba1121: 华国教育可以拿来用 而现在的话希望年轻人自己能分清楚 06/07 19:51
75F:→ suba1121: 反正简单讲就是民主自由以及共产社会要慎选内 06/07 19:51
76F:推 mayuuuday: 说不定陈信宏现在看到时代广场刻上台湾的标志,他还会 06/07 20:34
77F:→ mayuuuday: 觉得台湾人有必要这样吗 06/07 20:34
78F:→ suba1121: 他如果这样想的话就很让人无言了 我觉得中国人也是很多 06/07 20:37
79F:→ suba1121: 喜欢自由民主的 之前不是也有板友说有部分的人其实也... 06/07 20:38
80F:推 tingchou909: 中国有些人是有民主思想的没错,虽然不少,但不算多 06/07 20:49
81F:→ tingchou909: 真的遇到两国问题的时候选择回避的还是居多 06/07 20:49
82F:推 riss: 我都问我中国同学对岸那麽好你们怎麽不回国工作 06/07 21:10
83F:→ riss: 他们就闭嘴了再也不会讨论统独话题XD 06/07 21:10
84F:→ riss: 多半口嫌体正直 有呼吸过自由空气的是不会待在中国「生活」 06/07 21:12
85F:→ riss: 20年前同学去中国工作领的薪水一样 只是他是RMB我是NTD XD 06/07 21:15
86F:→ riss: 赚饱了就退休离开 06/07 21:16
87F:→ suba1121: 选择回避可以理解 彼此尊重 06/07 21:16
88F:推 volcom: 用垫音大法狂开不用CD的演唱会,然後再跟大家说,我有捐 06/08 06:59
89F:→ volcom: 很多钱喔! 06/08 06:59
90F:→ volcom: 我现在超期待五月天在台湾票会卖的多烂,只能期待年底了 06/08 07:00
91F:→ volcom: ,反正跨年又会海薛一笔 06/08 07:00
92F:推 Qmmm: 台湾人很乡愿,一捐钱就好棒棒,而且阿信开始留言一句毕业 06/08 08:20
93F:→ Qmmm: 快乐养,没出过社会的高中新粉 06/08 08:20
94F:→ tenlove: 真的觉得台湾人太心软 06/08 11:07
95F:推 MaydayExile: 10年後彻底装死装可爱真的太棒了 06/08 12:22
96F:推 phoebe147: 年底应该还是会卖的不错啦,看看脸书唉居里的留言,还 06/08 13:12
97F:→ phoebe147: 有海外中国人也能来参加 06/08 13:12
98F:推 ffishyu: 海外中国人迫不及待准备占满摇滚区吧 06/08 16:25
99F:→ bonneluck: 为什麽?中国有开放他们人民来台湾吗? 06/08 16:30
100F:→ ffishyu: 在海外的中国人可以来台湾 06/08 16:35
101F:推 newsnp: 上次高雄最终场A9A10就坐了非常多海外粉,我有遇到新加坡 06/08 17:28
102F:→ newsnp: 、香港、中国,台湾人反而少 06/08 17:28
103F:→ tingchou909: 中国本地人没办法过来自由行,但如果人本来就在国外 06/08 17:35
104F:→ tingchou909: 是可以来的,不过高雄场我没看到太多中国人耶,香港 06/08 17:36
105F:→ tingchou909: 朋友倒是不少 06/08 17:36
106F:→ bonneluck: 高雄场周边都台湾人,舒服 06/08 17:38
107F:推 smartkuei: 以前引以为傲的雨衣,这次带去旅游冲绳旅游,我完全不 06/10 23:36
108F:→ smartkuei: 敢拿出来穿,我怕被来自台湾的游客贴标签,我情愿全身 06/10 23:36
109F:→ smartkuei: 淋湿 06/10 23:36
110F:推 igundam: 我出国也都带他们的雨衣,但现在也准备送掉了 06/11 00:11
111F:推 mayuuuday: 一切都是事与愿违 06/11 04:03
112F:推 beurwind: 上周刚回收了近30件雨衣,原本都好好珍藏着,现在真的无 06/11 09:51
113F:→ beurwind: 法再穿上了 06/11 09:51
114F:推 wenfei: QQ 06/11 23:22
115F:推 allan0926: 还好啦,最近常下雨,雨衣蛮好穿的 06/13 06:15
116F:推 tenlove: 真的没办法穿觉得有文字改一下 雨天还是能用 06/14 08:36







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