作者popstarkirby (有梗的POP)
看板Mavericks
标题[外电] Carlisle's Offense Clarified
时间Thu Nov 25 16:53:34 2010
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17868
A number of Dallas Mavericks fans are having a hard time connecting the dots
this season. We hear team owner Mark Cuban and head coach Rick Carlisle talk
about how deep the team is, how they can compete with the Los Angeles Lakers
in the Western Conference, and how Tyson Chandler and Brendan Haywood combine
to form the best front court tandem in the NBA. . .
Then the team takes the court and none of that talk seems to ring true. They
lose back-to-back home games to a non-playoff team (Memphis) that was missing
their All-Star starting power forward (Zach Randolph) and a huge conference
rival (Denver) that was missing their entire front court (Nene, Chris
Andersen, Kenyon Martin).
How do we make sense of the claims about how great this Dallas team can be in
light of their repeated ineffectiveness on the court? Actually, Carlisle
himself explained it pretty well as his team prepared to play the Boston
Celtics on Monday night.
"They've been a top defensive trade since the (Garnett) trade three or four
years ago," said Carlisle. "They're extremely efficient offensively, which
helps their defense. For us, I think it's key to be really efficient
offensively, really efficient with the ball. The turnovers really hurt. They
throw a wildcard into the mix and mess up your chances to be consistent
defensively. We've got to bring those down and I'm confident that we will.
That said, our game is a little different from their game. We need to get the
ball up and down the floor a little more than they do, and that starts with
getting stops on defense and then, when we kick it out we have to take care
of it."
This is something we hear and over from Carlisle, and while those of us who
spend most of our time watching and analyzing the game of basketball
understand it, casual fans may not.
There are two key issues here: turnovers and half court sets. When the
Mavericks commit turnovers, as they have been doing in wholesale club packs
this season, they create easy baskets for their opponents. When they force
turnovers, they create easy scoring opportunities for themselves. These two
simple concepts are true for every team in the league, but unlike the elite
teams, the Mavericks have a very hard time scoring when they aren't in a
transition situation.
If you watch Mavericks basketball you've seen this. When the Mavs are stopped
and forced to run a half court set, they give the ball to Dirk Nowitzki and
then stand around and wait for him to do some of that MVP stuff. They're a
little bit spoiled in this sense, because Nowitzki is one of the best players
on the planet. He is more than capable of creating something out of nothing.
He did it on three straight plays against the Celtics, helping the Mavericks
come up with a big come-from-behind win, but is that really a championship
formula?
Hardly.
The Mavericks are a deep team, with very talented players. Nowitzki, Jason
Terry, and Caron Butler are capable of putting up big numbers on the
offensive end and Jason Kidd can still facilitate with the best of them. But
when you slow the game down and force the Mavs into a half court set you can
beat them. Part of that is a personnel issue, but the coaches have to
shoulder their share of the blame. You have to be able to use your players
and gear your game plan towards their strengths.
Right now the Mavericks coach staff is struggling to do that, and that's why
Mavs fans are finding a disconnect between the rhetoric coming out of the
Mavs' front office and the results when the team takes the court.
小牛高层不断宣称自己是支很阵容很深的球队
但是球队表现出的样子不像是如此
小牛最近几场比赛输给了不是季後赛的球队
目前表现如此的原因归咎於失误和"半场进攻模式"
相信看小牛比赛的球迷都见过这景象
小牛控球把球带过半场後丢给Dirk
然後剩下四个人就开始发呆准备看Dirk表演
Dirk可以从不可能中创造出得分机会
但是这样真的是一个想争夺冠军的球队吗?
目前小牛的教练团对此相当苦恼
当你有一群有好球员时
球队不该只是如此
终於有外电把运过半场把球给Dirk战术拿出来讨论了0.0....
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1F:推 jacksn :无限Dirk战术...把球给Dirk就对了~ 11/25 16:59
2F:推 tatata :乾脆把Dirk冰起来 看会死成怎样XD 11/25 17:08
3F:推 bokituto :反正我也不期待会有啥改变...= = 11/25 17:15
4F:推 windflye :虽然不乐见,但有效率就好,有时看到其他人空档出来 11/25 17:19
5F:→ windflye :球也传到了,却还会看到篮外空心,这不是教练的错 11/25 17:20
6F:→ windflye :虽然我也不知道教练做了什麽...XD不过最近Max有好转 11/25 17:20
7F:推 windflye :这样算是教练的功劳吗...XD 11/25 17:23
8F:推 yamete :Dirk很值得信赖,但还是希望有人能够稳定地分担他的 11/25 18:08
9F:→ yamete :得分压力,像小豪那样就做得很棒Q.Q 11/25 18:09
10F:→ F7 :照这样打下去,无限开火权的jjb会不会变成老二...XD 11/25 18:14
11F:推 kk0610 :好吧让金块有薪资空间CB+JJB+Mahinmi <-> 甜瓜 11/25 18:43
12F:→ kk0610 :有CB不至会完全没火力 明年不续有空间 JJB防枪西要走 11/25 18:46
13F:→ kk0610 :在送一个大个防K骂不打..我们就拼今年罗 11/25 18:47
14F:→ kk0610 :只是..事情有这麽简单就好罗 11/25 18:47
15F:推 awestricken :其实Howard真的不错 至少季後赛不会一直烙赛 11/25 19:02
16F:→ Hotsheep :需要一个能突破分球的後卫 11/25 19:31
17F:推 maxwellya :每次都看到DIRK很威,刷数据,其他人就是懒洋洋 11/25 19:34
18F:推 LKN555 :又到了想念小哈跟小豪的时候吗..... 11/25 19:35
19F:推 JohnnyDamon :把球给基德 他可是大三元制造机 司机不在就靠他了 11/25 19:49
20F:推 nunzio :Jones热身赛一条龙,例行赛变成开特力防守员... 11/25 19:59
21F:推 Chenwitzki :虽然防守有进步 可是这进攻@@ CB快回神阿 11/25 20:00
22F:推 dmdjjj :突破分球的两年前被丢去纽泽西了 11/25 20:05
23F:推 JohnnyDamon :阿不是有基德就好 怀念哈里斯干嘛XD 11/25 20:09
24F:→ JohnnyDamon :基德会组织进攻 也是三分射手耶! 11/25 20:10
25F:推 picaro :楼上无聊.... 11/25 20:33
26F:→ picaro :Jonny大已经好几篇这样酸了...请问这样做的必要性是? 11/25 20:34
27F:推 JohnnyDamon :我只是就我认知的说出来 偶错了吗?!偶错了吗?! 11/25 20:35
28F:→ JohnnyDamon :而且你从哪得知我是在酸?我也是基德迷阿! 11/25 20:36
29F:推 printfxd :反串失败 先爬文再来 11/25 20:43
30F:推 imkidding :我闻到水桶的味道 11/25 21:38
31F:→ rx836 :呵呵 哈哈 恩恩 11/25 22:03
32F:推 jack31335 :水桶味好重 谁散出来的!! 11/25 22:38
33F:→ windflye :突然发现我差点要被捅了..恐怖..继续低调好了... 11/25 23:09
34F:推 Taylor0820 :到底DOJO是做了什麽事,为啥被冰成这样... 11/26 00:15
35F:推 picaro :可能是比分近的比赛 卡帅比较不敢放新人吧~"~ 11/26 00:21
36F:→ popstarkirby:没有球队会把希望放在新人或二年级生@@..除非是前几 11/26 04:13
37F:→ popstarkirby:顺位@@ 11/26 04:13
38F:推 jazz123457 :大概只有老尼的勇士才敢这样操新人XD 11/26 04:29
39F:推 cj3x04gp6 :我觉得johnny说的是事实 运过半场就传给明星不但省 11/26 05:03
40F:→ cj3x04gp6 :体力又可以刷助攻 现在Kidd打法跟拓荒时期的Blake差 11/26 05:04
41F:→ cj3x04gp6 :不多 差就差在名子叫Kidd 如果把名子盖掉Kidd的表现 11/26 05:05
42F:→ cj3x04gp6 :一定一堆人鞭 但因为名子是Kidd 大家都会开始喊经验 11/26 05:05
43F:→ cj3x04gp6 :还没老之类 只是提出一个观点 希望不要太敏感 11/26 05:06
44F:推 jazz123457 :运过半场传给明星,kidd从VC到篮网後就这麽干了,他 11/26 05:24
45F:→ jazz123457 :一直都不是很强的切入型控卫,但对球场空间的敏锐度 11/26 05:26
46F:→ jazz123457 :传球的精准度,这可不是Blake之流可比的上的 11/26 05:28
47F:→ cj3x04gp6 :楼上这样说不就是小弟我说的喊喊经验 Kidd这几季都 11/26 05:36
48F:→ cj3x04gp6 :是运过半场就传给明星 何来传球精准 敏锐之有? 11/26 05:36
49F:→ cj3x04gp6 :现在问题就是Kidd这超级巨星打法像Blake之流但是因为 11/26 05:37
50F:→ cj3x04gp6 :他是巨星而没人敢值疑他这种Blake之流打法 11/26 05:37
51F:推 KingSteven :不过小哈是真的不太需要怀念 11/26 08:20
52F:→ KingSteven :留小哈更不可能有未来吧 11/26 08:21
53F:→ popstarkirby:why @@...? 11/26 08:42
54F:→ APUU :不用问why 反正他也没留下来 你也看不到未来 11/26 12:23
55F:→ APUU :其他人要怎说就都是随便他们了 11/26 12:23
56F:→ APUU :就像讨论留Nash他是否能连两届MVP 也是差不多 11/26 12:24
57F:推 dmdjjj :原来留Harris会比换来一个35岁的老将还没有未来,第 11/26 14:17
58F:→ dmdjjj :一次听到这种说法... 11/26 14:17
59F:→ KIDD7576 :还有人在争留谁好留谁不好喔= =a.....好腻~ 11/27 03:21
60F:推 happyfryegg :25岁 vs 35岁 切入 vs 等无敌空档三分(还不一定进) 11/27 04:15
61F:→ happyfryegg :切传 vs 运过半场传给Dirk刷数据 不看球员名还真的 11/27 04:16
62F:→ happyfryegg :是高下立判 争这真的满无聊~ 11/27 04:17
63F:推 picaro :25岁 vs 35岁 切入 vs 切入 切传 vs 切传 11/27 04:32
64F:→ picaro :不看球员名还真的认为小哈跟NASH同等级还比他年轻耶 11/27 04:32
65F:→ picaro :到底"怀念过去美好时光"的意义在哪里= =||| 11/27 04:33
66F:→ happyfryegg :楼上不就是说Kidd有上场价值因为他打比JJB好的picaro 11/27 05:18
67F:→ happyfryegg :奉劝你不懂的少引用 板上一堆大大可以把你电惨惨地 11/27 05:19
68F:→ happyfryegg :举Nash是想打Kidd脸??? 同样35岁一个表现的像巨星 11/27 05:20
69F:→ happyfryegg :一个表现像一个刷数据待退的替补老人 11/27 05:21
70F:→ happyfryegg :而说到怀念过去美好时光 记得是随交易带过来的风气 11/27 05:22
71F:推 dmdjjj :说老实话,拿现在的Nash比现在的Kidd只是打Kidd巴掌 11/27 06:22
72F:→ dmdjjj :而已,这不是个替Kidd说话的好方法.... 11/27 06:22
73F:→ dmdjjj :而且留Harris比现在还没未来确实挺荒谬的。XD 11/27 06:23
74F:→ waddledee :Nash>Harris>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kidd 不知道证明了什麽 11/27 06:27
75F:→ waddledee :而且怀念过去的美好不就是护Kidd最常见的方式吗..... 11/27 06:27
76F:→ waddledee :每次都是Kidd曾经怎样怎样...然後过去谁跟Kidd搭配 11/27 06:28
77F:→ waddledee :谁就打出好数据谁就变成超人 11/27 06:28
78F:推 BrentRoy :Kidd刷数据功力真的颇威...有时候看比赛他没做什麽 11/27 09:28
79F:→ BrentRoy :防守被过 助攻数字还是有 11/27 09:29
80F:推 Chenwitzki :KIDD三分把握住+把节奏调好就是他的价值了 11/27 14:31
81F:→ Chenwitzki : ^在JJB脑冲的时候 11/27 14:32
82F:推 picaro :我民国几年说过Kidd有上场价值因为他打比JJB好= = 而 11/27 16:16
83F:→ picaro :且我引用什麽了吗= = 我不就用HAPPY大的比较方式在比 11/27 16:17
84F:→ picaro :两个人而已....再而且 我没有想要电谁齁! 我不会自讨 11/27 16:18
85F:→ picaro :没趣...我本来就不会什麽分析...我只是单纯对这种比 11/27 16:19
86F:→ picaro :较觉得怪而已..还有 并没有谁一直怀念Kidd的美好过去 11/27 16:20
87F:推 dmdjjj :要说比较,似乎是某楼先说留Harris比现在更没未来 11/27 17:18
88F:→ dmdjjj :怎麽某楼说的不觉得怪,後面就觉得怪了呢? 11/27 17:19
89F:→ dmdjjj :何况把Nash拖进来比真的只是更明显看出两名过35老将 11/27 17:20
90F:→ dmdjjj :的差别而已....= = 11/27 17:20
91F:推 picaro :我也同意Nash现在真的比Kidd强阿~我又没有要辩啥= = 11/27 17:40
92F:→ picaro :阿说留小哈没未来那个 我要回的时候底下都回应说怪了 11/27 17:40
93F:→ picaro :我再回才奇怪吧= = 我只是单纯觉得只比那几项本来就 11/27 17:41
94F:→ picaro :比较粗糙一些...我也没有要说谁比较强 只能说NBA都强 11/27 17:42
95F:→ picaro :而且我回那个也不是想要表示什麽就被攻击了~我也无奈 11/27 17:43
96F:推 dmdjjj :突然拖个Nash进来其实更怪...还加了句"怀念过去" 11/27 17:47
97F:推 picaro :我知道很怪...因为前面的比较也很怪= = 那句话的意思 11/27 18:16
98F:→ picaro :只是要说交易都过了 "怀念以前球员"也没用..15句了QQ 11/27 18:18
99F:推 farewell324 :事实证明跟一群分身计较实在是陪了夫人又折兵... 11/28 22:09