作者lovejeely (Wedge Sucks!)
看板Mariners
标题Trader Jack?
时间Thu Jul 31 01:02:00 2014
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Trader Jack? As Seattle's GM struggles to complete deals, some rival
executives wonder
The Mariners already have completed one trade, acquiring designated hitter
Kendrys Morales from the Twins last week. General manager Jack Zduriencik
could make one or two more deals before the non-waiver deadline Thursday at 4
p.m. ET, maybe even a blockbuster.
To hear rival executives tell it, though, Zduriencik mostly has exasperated
trade partners with his negotiating style while trying to guide the M’s to
the postseason for the first time since 2001. Those executives say the
Mariners frequently inquire on a number of players, only to shift direction
when a deal appears within reach.
Such conduct is not unusual for teams navigating the complex trade market.
But in numerous conversations, executives from other teams have singled out
Zduriencik as one of the most difficult GMs in the sport with whom to do
business. Zdurincik’s peers express frustration with his methods – and
their complaints are not new.
The rival executives spoke on condition of anonymity because of tampering
rules and the ongoing nature of trade conversations. And while Zduriencik is
free to conduct business however he sees fit, his peers say the trade market
is clogged in part due to the Mariners’ stalled pursuits of players such as
the Rays’ David Price, Rangers’ Alex Rios and Phillies’ Marlon Byrd.
Meanwhile, the situation is turning urgent for the Mariners, who are 3-7
since the All-Star break and now just three games above .500. Zduriencik, who
reportedly is unsigned beyond 2014, also is in a delicate spot. The M’s
went 85-77 in ’09, his first season, then produced losing records in each of
the past four years.
Some GMs turn aggressive when their jobs seemingly are at stake. Zduriencik,
on the other hand, baffles rival executives with his inability to close deals.
“He has made offers and then pulled back after we have said, ‘This is
something we would do,”’ one executive said. “He responds (by saying) it
wasn’t an offer and that he will need to discuss it with his guys.”
Another executive added, “I don’t always get the sense that he knows what
he wants to do. One day, he’s interested in one thing. The next day, he’s
interested in another. That’s what makes it challenging.”
A third executive said, “They (the Mariners) don’t set out on a trade
saying, ‘Here’s what we need. Let’s do what we can to get him.’ They
think, ‘Who can we give up that will never be any good?’ They don’t want
to give up anyone who will haunt them. That’s just flat-out fear.”
Zduriencik, in a lengthy E-mail to FOX Sports, responded by saying that the
in-and-out nature of his trade conversations are typical of those that occur
throughout the industry.
“There are many discussions that take place throughout the year, and I am
open in my dialogue and intent,” Zduriencik said. “I have not had an offer
on the table and pulled it back. I have been clear in my discussions and
often express my intentions.
“I have done enough deals, signed enough players in my history, that this
alone should speak to this subject. Inquiries, discussions, dialogue, and
even the exchange of names does not mean a deal will get done, and all GMs
realize this. Many times there are varying points as names go in and out from
both parties. There are so many factors that go into any trade that most
clubs realize how hard and sensitive this subject can be.
“If any trade or discussion does not get consummated, it is simply that we
did not agree on the exchange. As a general manager, I have had my share of
deals turned down, and I have turned down deals as well. It simply works both
ways.”
Zduriencik added, “As far as the fear factor of a player doing well
elsewhere, that comment is ridiculous! I would hope that every GM wishes his
players the very best and success as they move on to other ballclubs. It’s
just part of the business of baseball. It is my job to do what is best for
the Seattle Mariners.”
The Mariners are drawing increased attention from other clubs not only
because of their emergence as a surprise contender but also because of their
reservoir of young talent. Teams view Seattle as an attractive trading
partner, and the M’s have an obvious need for offense – they lead the
American League in ERA but are next-to-last in runs scored.
The AL West title is all but out of reach for the Mariners, who trail the
Athletics by 11 games, the Angels by 9½. The second wild card is a more
realistic target – the M’s are a mere 1½ games behind the Blue Jays in
that race. But the only assurance that a wild card offers is a one-game
playoff, with the winner advancing to the best-of-five Division Series.
Rival executives view even the one trade that Zduriencik has made thus far as
curious. The Mariners not only gave up right-handed reliever Stephen Pryor
for Morales but also agreed to pay the remainder of the approximately $4.33
million remaining on Morales’ contract. This for a player who was batting
.234 with a .584 OPS – and since has gone 1-for-10 in his first three games
with the Mariners.
The trade did squelch the notion that the Mariners were operating without
payroll flexibility – a notion Zduriencik himself perpetuated, rival
executives say.
“I have an ownership group that’s as tired of losing as our fan base is,”
team president Kevin Mather told FOX Sports last week. “I get tired of
reading that our player payroll is $89 million or $90 million. We’re well
over $100 million, and we just added Morales. We feel good about where we
are, and we do have some flexibility.”
The question now is whether Zduriencik can capitalize on that flexibility –
and whether Mariners ownership is influencing the GM’s stop-and-start
behavior. Former club officials have accused ownership of meddling in the
past.
Zduriencik, who took over as GM on Oct. 22, 2008, was an assertive deal-maker
in his early years, completing a three-team, 12-player trade at his first
winter meetings and acquiring left-hander Cliff Lee from the Phillies at his
second. But he got a poor return for Lee from the Rangers the following July,
then sent right-hander Doug Fister to the Tigers in another ill-conceived
deal the next year.
Since then, Zduriencik’s trades mostly have brought low-impact returns.
Second baseman Robinson Cano, the Mariners’ biggest acquisition last
offseason, was a $240 million free-agent signing. The team’s only trade of
consequence was pitcher Carter Capps for first baseman Logan Morrison. Their
only trade last July sent infielder Robert Andino to the Pirates for a player
to be named.
The next four days, then, could amount to the most significant test of
Zduriencik’s tenure in Seattle. He will either defy the criticism of him
within the industry or spark renewed questions about whether he is fit for
the job.
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1F:推 cd12631:感觉大家都讨厌JZ XD 07/31 01:20
2F:推 ryvius0723:我看成Trade JZ 07/31 02:03
3F:推 nifanliu:猪头B:你们这些人开始怀念我的豪爽了吧! 07/31 03:14
4F:推 nifanliu:JZ这种操作方式先前就已经在Lee交易时搞过洋基.逼洋基出 07/31 04:15
5F:→ nifanliu:肥铁洛.再用这条件逼条子拿JZ更想要的娘娘出来.然後直接 07/31 04:15
6F:→ nifanliu:将Lee换给条子.JZ後来说从未和洋基达成任何协议.但洋基认 07/31 04:15
7F:→ nifanliu:为JZ已经口头协议成交,事後超不爽.後来这交易配菜之中的J 07/31 04:15
8F:→ nifanliu:osh Lueke罗生门当然也被拿来挖苦JZ一番. 07/31 04:15
9F:推 Guillen:发原文不附翻译,此风不可长。(喂) 07/31 08:11
10F:推 keniori:老实说这几年JZ做的交易都不怎样 感觉啦 07/31 11:32
11F:推 cd12631:我想今年731前大概没人会和JZ再做交易了 双城今天也传出消 07/31 12:03
12F:→ cd12631:息说Josh Willingham不太可能在交易截止日前被卖掉 07/31 12:03
13F:推 keniori:这样也不错阿 说不定JZ又会拿什麽鬼东西去换 07/31 12:14
14F:推 shoting:JZ这几年做的交易的确都不怎样, 尤其是 7/31 前的交易 07/31 12:37
15F:推 aibakoji:Z最大的优点大概是对还没上MLB的农场球员估的很准 07/31 15:50
16F:→ aibakoji:只要是在还没上到MLB之前就被当交易筹码送出去的 07/31 15:51
17F:→ aibakoji:几乎都在MLB缴不出成绩,不过如果有在水兵本队交出 07/31 15:52
18F:→ aibakoji:合格(联盟平均),出去几乎是毎一个都打JZ的脸打超爽 07/31 15:53
19F:推 shoting:Morrow算吗?Morrow这笔看起来越来越不觉得有亏到了 07/31 15:56
20F:→ shoting:Fister应该是打脸打最大的例子 XD 07/31 15:58
21F:推 aibakoji:Morrow在这边成绩很好阿,去蓝鸟至少也还有像个三号 07/31 16:10
22F:→ aibakoji:而且他换回来的,力哥(胜利告别式)+空气小联盟球员 07/31 16:11
23F:→ aibakoji:蓝鸟怎麽算都是大胜 07/31 16:11
24F:推 cd12631:Morrow是太痛 感觉在蓝鸟那边要投出来了就受伤 07/31 16:13
25F:推 cd12631:Fister←→佛不许... 不堪回首 07/31 16:18
26F:→ cd12631:还有大喇叭那几笔 换来一堆人冰在AAA不知道要干嘛 07/31 16:19
27F:→ cd12631:最赛的应该是一朗那次 捡到一个法垮XD 07/31 16:20
28F:推 shoting:Fister那笔佛布希不算主菜,我记得好像TOP10拿了4个来 07/31 16:37
29F:→ shoting:结果全乱掉,Morrow 痛成那样,实际上只有12年算是不错 07/31 16:38
30F:→ shoting:力哥在被操挂前也算是合格的CL拉 07/31 16:39
31F:推 keniori:与其去跟人家换有天分的棒子 不如还是花钱去签一只 07/31 16:40
32F:→ keniori:我们家养棒子的能力真的是烂到掉渣的等级 07/31 16:41
33F:推 shoting:签来会变公务员阿 XD 07/31 16:48
34F:推 keniori:至少比殭屍好 07/31 16:58
35F:→ Pennyjr:Morrow怎麽看都是亏阿,力哥也只有猛一阵子 08/01 11:24