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by John Sickels on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM EDT This is a review of the 2011 Pre-Season Top 20 list. IT IS NOT A NEW LIST. The 2012 list and new grades won't be ready until the season is over and I start writing the book. 1) Michael Pineda, RHP, Grade A: 3.53 ERA, 133/43 K/BB in 130 innings for the Mariners, 97 hits. An outstanding rookie campaign. 2) Dustin Ackley, 2B, Grade A-: Hit .303/.431/.487 in 271 Triple-A at-bats. So far, .293/.360/.516 with 17 walks, 23 strikeouts in 157 major league at-bats. As with Pineda, he's been everything the Mariners could have hoped for. 3) Nick Franklin, SS, Grade B: .275/.356/.411 with 31 walks, 56 strikeouts, 13 steals in 14 attempts for High-A High Desert. 9-for-15 in Double-A until sidelined by jaw injury and food poisoning. Although I thought he would hit better at High Desert, at age 20 he still has plenty of time to develop on both offense and defense. 4) Taijuan Walker, RHP, Grade B-: 3.04 ERA with 110/38 K/BB in 92 innings for Low-A Clinton, 65 hits, 1.48 GO/AO. Excellent stuff, more polish than expected, among the elite pitching prospects in the game now. Superb K/IP, H/IP and grounder combination. 5) Mauricio Robles, LHP, Grade B-: 8.91 ERA with 23/33 K/BB in 32 innings between High-A, Double-A, and Triple-A. Season crippled by elbow problems and command collapse. 6) Alex Liddi, 3B, Grade B-: Hitting .263/.335/.506 with 25 homers, 50 walks, 141 strikeouts for Tacoma. Defense has improved, power looks good, but strikeout rate is too high for comfort. 7) Guillermo Pimentel, OF, Grade C+: Hitting .275/.321/.450 with eight homers, 11 walks, 52 strikeouts in 171 at-bats for Pulaski in the rookie-level Appalachian League. Walk rate has doubled compared to last year, still strikes out a lot, lots of power, young at age 18. 8) Johermyn Chavez, OF, Grade C+: Hitting .216/.304/.363 with 12 homers, 37 walks, 106 strikeouts in 375 at-bats for Double-A Jackson. It looks like 2010 was a High Desert illusion but he is still young enough at 22 to figure things out. 9) Kyle Seager, 3B-2B, Grade C+: .312/.381/.459 with 26 walks, 38 strikeouts in 266 at-bats for Jackson, .387/.444/.585 with 11 walks, 12 strikeouts in 106 at-bats for Tacoma, went 5-for-34 (.147) in 11 major league games. Pure hitting skills will get him more chances. 10) James Jones, OF, Grade C+: Played better after a slow start, up to .247/.347/.378 with 42 walks, 92 strikeouts, 16 steals in 296 at-bats for High Desert. Went on disabled list July 23rd, unfortunate given he was on a hot streak (.359/.446/.538 in July). 11) Dan Cortes, RHP, Grade C+: 5.35 ERA with 45/27 K/BB in 37 innings for Tacoma, 43 hits. Has walked three in three major league innings, with four hits and two runs. Has always had the stuff, command is the issue. 12) Marcus Littlewood, SS, Grade C+: Hit just .158/.236/.211 in 27 games for Low-A Clinton. .227/.333/.374 in 163 at-bats for short-season Everett, 25 walks, 54 strikeouts. Error-prone on defense. So far, not living up to expectations, but it is early at age 19. 13) Ramon Morla, 3B, Grade C+: .312/.375/.473 in 93 at-bats for Everett, .170/.196/.255 in 106 at-bats for Clinton with four walks and 28 strikeouts. Good range at third base but error-prone. At age 21, he has less slack than Littlewood. 14) Nate Tenbrink, 3B-OF, Grade C+: .218/.337/.403 with 34 walks, 60 strikeouts, 11 steals in 211 at-bats for Jackson. On DL since late June. 15) Ji-Man Choi, C-1B, Grade C+: Has been out all season with back and shoulder problems. 16) Blake Beavan, RHP, Grade C+: 4.45 ERA with 64/20 K/BB in 93 innings for Tacoma, 2.83 ERA with 17/6 K/BB in 41 innings for the Mariners, 39 hits. He's efficient but hittable, must have a good defense and a friendly park behind him. 17) Vince Catricala, 3B-1B, Grade C+: .351/.421/.574 with 33 walks, 45 strikeouts in 282 at-bats for High Desert, .354/.412/.592 in 147 at-bats for Jackson, 13 walks, 28 strikeouts. Has also stolen 13 bases. Not great at third base, but the bat looks real, 18) Esteilon Peguero, SS, Grade C+: Hitting .282/.309/.394 in the Arizona Rookie League, four walks, 19 strikeouts, 17 steals in 142 at-bats. Error prone on defense, but that's hardly critical at age 17. Needs to improve plate discipline. 19) Stephen Pryor, RHP, Grade C+: 7.67 ERA with 34/26 K/BB in 27 innings for High Desert. He was promoted to Jackson anyway and has been excellent there, 1.29 ERA with 20/5 K/BB in 14 innings, four hits. Very interesting that he struggled so badly in the Cal League but has been terrific in Double-A. 20) Josh Lueke, RHP, Grade C+: Effective in Triple-A, 2.76 ERA with 35/12 K/BB in 42 innings, 11 saves. Horrible in the majors, 18 hits and 15 runs allowed in 13 innings, with 15/8 K/BB. Arm strength remains intriguing. Pineda and Ackley are the headliners of course, and Walker has developed rapidly into one of the top pitching prospects in the game. The rest of the list is mixed, but when you successfully graduate two impact players to the majors in one year, and both adjust well, it's a good year. --



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1F:推 show431389:Liddi加油阿ˊˋ 突破我门家三垒的诅咒 08/13 22:43
2F:推 DIorShi:3) Nick Franklin, SS, Grade B 私心希望他可以和Ackley 08/13 22:45
3F:→ DIorShi: 一样跳到A- =_=有梦最美啊!!!! 08/13 22:45
4F:→ BMHSEA:Franklin是吃什麽东西可以下巴受伤+食物中毒 = =.. 08/13 22:47
5F:推 Pennyjr:希望前六个都能好好长大,这样就不太需要担忧未来 08/13 23:05
6F:推 lovejeely:我必须插播一下某个在AA抓狂的家伙,就在大家觉得今年选 08/13 23:10
7F:→ lovejeely:进的Danny Hultzen会成为水兵轮值左投第一号,升上AA的 08/13 23:11
8F:→ lovejeely:James Paxton在最近这两场六局跟七局的先发各丢出10K 08/13 23:12
9F:→ lovejeely:升上AA後的六场先发,在39 IP里丢出了51K,原本BB过多的 08/13 23:12
10F:→ lovejeely:情况也改善不少,39IP丢出13个BB,对手AVG是0.201 08/13 23:13
11F:→ lovejeely:他如果能这样丢到小联盟球季结束,他可能会杀上水手体系 08/13 23:14
12F:→ lovejeely:农场前五名(扣除掉今年升上来的Pineda跟Ackley) 08/13 23:15
13F:推 tigertiger:如果他这样丢到季末 Walker再来就他了 08/13 23:26
14F:推 mika0120:请问一下今年选秀签的怎样啦? 08/13 23:26
15F:→ mika0120:我知道咱们榜眼还没签下就是 08/13 23:27
16F:推 aibakoji:第三轮的Kevin Cron大概签不下来了,据说他已经跟TCU提出 08/14 00:10
17F:→ aibakoji:就读意向书,应该会去念大学= = 08/14 00:11
18F:→ aibakoji:Paxton再观察一下比较好,他到目前为止没有遇上 08/14 00:11
19F:→ aibakoji:Southern League打击比较强的几支球队,对成绩要稍微 08/14 00:13
20F:→ aibakoji:保留一点,不过以现阶段而言已经很好了 08/14 00:13
21F:→ aibakoji:Hultzen签下来应该没问题,留到明年他也不会有更好的 08/14 00:14
22F:→ aibakoji:身价了,没意外的话应该会比照Ackley给他一张大联盟约 08/14 00:15
23F:推 ILER:Paxton是吃到仙丹嘛= = 08/14 00:15
24F:→ aibakoji:他本来就有第一轮的实力,只是价码谈不拢才会多拖一年 08/14 00:16
25F:→ aibakoji:也掉到第四轮 08/14 00:16
26F:推 lovejeely:Kevin Cron没拿下来很亏,他的天份可能比他老哥高Orz 08/14 00:19
27F:→ lovejeely:然後又是TCU,前年Purke也是跑去TCU....-_- 08/14 00:20
28F:→ lovejeely:看球探长最後这三天能不能想办法扭转吧,本来Cron一度接 08/14 00:21
29F:→ lovejeely:近谈成要签了,结果TCU那几间学校又杀进来乱-_- 08/14 00:21
30F:→ lovejeely:然後都没有人在意第二轮那一个到底签不签得下来XD 08/14 00:22
31F:推 aibakoji:MI老实讲农场量很多,只是除了Franklin以外没有能让人 08/14 00:25
32F:推 lovejeely:然後我另外好奇的一点是投手养成这个样子,Rendon的情况 08/14 00:26
33F:→ aibakoji:安心的,不过这麽多洗出一两个不是问题 08/14 00:26
34F:→ lovejeely:到底是多惨才会让JZ在今年舍弃他选了Hultzen? 08/14 00:26
35F:→ aibakoji:我的猜测应该不是打击因素,防守上的问题成分比较大 08/14 00:27
36F:→ lovejeely:Hultzen再快顶多就是13年上来顶轮值,Paxton按照这速度 08/14 00:28
37F:→ aibakoji:Z可能认为他的伤会让他最终要转往一垒或二垒 08/14 00:29
38F:→ lovejeely:说不定明年九月就上了,投手轮值其实还满够用 08/14 00:29
39F:推 Pennyjr:Cron如果签不下来真得是蛮亏的,不然C这个位置说不定就不 08/14 00:29
40F:→ Pennyjr:用烦恼,TCU不要跟我们抢人啦 08/14 00:29
41F:→ lovejeely:他的守备横移速度好像不快吧?加上脚踝伤,守2B难度不低 08/14 00:30
42F:→ lovejeely:Cron他老哥今年进来马上屠杀SS,结果受伤Otz 08/14 00:31
43F:→ Pennyjr:如果真的有伤,我看Rendon最後应该只有1B可以站 08/14 00:31
44F:推 aibakoji:C.J. Cron签约前天使就知道他有伤了,本来预定打完这季 08/14 00:32
45F:→ Pennyjr:动用亲情攻势,好兄弟不同队吗? 08/14 00:32
46F:→ aibakoji:才去开刀,没想到天算不如人算 08/14 00:32
47F:→ lovejeely:说到食物中毒,我们家今年是怎样啊?从Guti开始大家肠胃 08/14 00:32
48F:→ lovejeely:都不好是怎样啊?Orz 08/14 00:33
49F:→ lovejeely:我觉得挖他老爸比较快,他老爸是白袜补教 08/14 00:33
50F:→ lovejeely:挖老爹过来顺便升个官,看能不能把儿子价码算便宜点 08/14 00:34
51F:→ aibakoji:其实看今年的交易可以看出Z可能会在季末大干一票,也许 08/14 00:34
52F:→ lovejeely:其实这条打线就缺两个:一个开路先锋,一个稳定大棒子 08/14 00:35
53F:→ aibakoji:同时补上DH和LF位置,反正现在2,3A野手爆满,拿一些出去 08/14 00:35
54F:→ lovejeely:DH应该就是瞄准小王子了,普神我是觉得免肖想=__= 08/14 00:36
55F:→ aibakoji:弄支大棒子很值得,如果FA也肯花钱的话,一次补完有可能 08/14 00:36
56F:→ lovejeely:LF如果Carp能维持这样的打击手感,给他没差,反正他左边 08/14 00:36
57F:→ lovejeely:那个是超人可以cover他一点 08/14 00:37
58F:→ lovejeely:一朗明年最好把他出赛压在140场内,要不然第一棒也欠人 08/14 00:38
59F:→ aibakoji:我猜可能会被摆上交易桌的:小三,Halman,Triunfel 08/14 00:39
60F:→ lovejeely:压上Triunfel的话,代表JZ把所有MI希望压在Franklin身上 08/14 00:39
61F:→ aibakoji:Liddi,Vasquez,Laffey,Poythress 08/14 00:40
62F:→ lovejeely:丢Liddi?这也赌太大了,这是目前离3B最近的一个解答Orz 08/14 00:41
63F:→ aibakoji:Triunfel的问题在他今年要摆进40人了,但他的成绩没明显 08/14 00:41
64F:→ aibakoji:提升,防守上问题也不小 08/14 00:42
65F:→ aibakoji:Liddi只是可以谈,除非能拿到即战力补上3B,LF,DH之一 08/14 00:43
66F:→ aibakoji:不然Z应该不会轻易放手 08/14 00:43
67F:→ delta33:我还是觉得跟老虎那笔交易很烂,我们不缺LF,Fister应该可以 08/14 07:33
68F:→ delta33:c,或cf的新秀,虽然wells也可以守cf,至於martinez我觉得 08/14 07:36
69F:→ delta33:跟我们家那个martinez比,我并不觉得会差到那里去 08/14 07:37
70F:推 okinawa8:现在下面唯一能顶LF的应该只有Saunders吧,後门、屁股肉 08/14 08:32
71F:→ okinawa8:和Wilson根本不成气候,鲤的守备也会不是LF长期方案 08/14 08:33
72F:→ okinawa8:我是觉得我们OF深度没有想像中的深,反而已经敲响警钟了 08/14 08:34
73F:→ okinawa8:LF长年来是个洞,Guti状况又是未知数,Ichiro最多也就打 08/14 08:35
74F:→ okinawa8:到明年,如果明年Guti还是摆烂的话後年OF三格都开天窗 08/14 08:36
75F:→ delta33:还有cartricala可以顶一下,一朗退化和古提肚子痛已成事实 08/14 08:46
76F:→ delta33:他的打击没啥问题,守备要比carp差大概很难,我是比较希望把 08/14 08:48
77F:→ delta33:wells和martinez换一只比较优秀的cf,rf,或c而不是可能变 08/14 08:50
78F:→ delta33:成泡沫的希望,这个东西水手农场已经够多了 08/14 08:50
79F:→ delta33:今年JACK Z给我的感觉是急了点,虽然农场投手还够,但可以 08/14 08:53
80F:→ delta33:不用那麽赶,以731这个我们占优势的时间点,大概那个平手 08/14 08:54
81F:→ delta33:的局面,应该是很多人会有点失望 08/14 08:55
82F:推 aibakoji:Cartricala的防守可能和WMP有得拼,Carp搞不好会完胜他 08/14 09:00
83F:→ aibakoji:他的打击看来是真货,但是要转外野很难,大概还是1B/DH 08/14 09:01
84F:→ aibakoji:的料,至於捕手,我想Z应该很想要Smyly,但是老虎不肯给 08/14 09:02
85F:→ aibakoji:Fister也没有好到可以让老虎把农场开给你挑 08/14 09:04
86F:→ aibakoji:我不觉得Z在这交易里有甚麽失败的,反而是Bedard那笔交易 08/14 09:04
87F:→ aibakoji:拿的有点少 08/14 09:05
88F:推 delta33:Cartricala的防守这麽惨喔= =,感觉他腿比较快应该比几乎 08/14 09:06
89F:→ delta33:没再守外野的carp会好一点,救援投手等再回神的pryor,和 08/14 09:07
90F:→ delta33:moran应该是够用的,fister留到季後也很好卖,大多数人会 08/14 09:08
91F:→ delta33:希望拿一个比较好的就好,也不用一捆送过来 08/14 09:09
92F:推 aibakoji:Carp在3A好歹守了一季以上的LF,至少有足够经验 08/14 09:10
93F:→ delta33:我倒是希望这两个交易连发生都不用,等季後再说就好 08/14 09:10
94F:→ aibakoji:Cat现在的问题就是没个守比较好的位置,目前是暂时摆LF 08/14 09:11
95F:推 delta33:cat应该是LF定了,一般原守位没守好,就有可能根据球队的策 08/14 09:25
96F:→ delta33:略运作 08/14 09:26
97F:推 tunababy:Cron的原来的伤跟现在让他进DL的伤是不一样的.. 08/14 12:50
98F:推 aibakoji:我知道,我的意思是你们的运气不太好,事情没有办法 08/14 12:57
99F:→ aibakoji:照计画走 08/14 12:57







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