作者GUILLEN ()
看板Mariners
标题[讨论] Carlos Peguero
时间Sat Jun 18 20:25:29 2011
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Suffice to say that, when the Mariners brought up Carlos Peguero and stuck
him in an outfield platoon, most of us were fairly skeptical. We were excited
to watch Peguero, because Peguero was a new young player and new young
players are always exciting, but our hopes weren't very high, because as
strong as Peguero is, he didn't exactly come with much of a minor league
track record. In high-A, he struck out more than four times as often as he
walked. In AA, he struck out more than three times as often as he walked. In
AAA, he struck out nearly four times as often as he walked. Peguero was
strong, but he was undisciplined and unpolished, and he looked like the kind
of guy who'd come up, post an OBP around .220, and head back down, a
discouraged shell of a man.
我只想说,当水手队拉上屁股肉进入外野位置,大部分的球迷都对他有些怀疑,青春
肉体总是令人兴奋,但我们对他的期待可没有太高,虽然他很强壮,但他小联盟的纪
录倒是不让人惊艳。在高阶 A,他的被三振数超过保送数的四倍,在AA,他的被三振
数超过保送数的三倍,在 AAA,他的被三振数则是接近保送数的四倍。他很强壮,但
是没有选球也尚待琢磨,感觉他会上来一下,交出.220左右的上垒率,然後就会回去
Tacoma。
And for some time, Peguero fulfilled our expectations. He hit a couple home
runs, including a big one out of nowhere against Fausto Carmona that broke up
a no-hitter, but at the end of May, his OBP was .210, and he had 22
strikeouts in 62 Major League trips to the plate. Peguero looked lost, and he
looked like he was on the verge of returning to Tacoma, perhaps in exchange
for Mike Carp.
有的时候,屁股肉达到了我们对他的期待,干了几炮、坏了 Carmona无安打的好事,
但到了五月底,他的上垒率是.210,62个打席里被K掉22次,他看起来有点迷惘,一
副要回 Tacoma 跟 Mike Carp 交换工作的样子。
Then things turned around a little bit. Peguero went deep twice against the
Rays on June 2nd. Soon thereafter he posted a three-game hit streak, which is
notable for a guy like him. And he started looking better to the eye. Over
the past few weeks, Peguero has not only been a more successful hitter - he's
looked like a more selective hitter.
但接着峰回路转,6/2 屁股肉对上光芒队双响,接着连三场安打,这对他来说可是值
得大书特书的事情,然後他的眼睛好像变利了,过去几周,屁股肉不仅是个更为进步
的打者,也是个更为有耐心的打者。
And it shows up in the numbers. Let's ignore Peguero's brief time with the
team in April, and focus on his time as a semi-regular in May and June. Data
comes courtesy of Fangraphs, with OSwing% referring to Peguero's rate of
swings at pitches out of the zone, ZSwing% referring to Peguero's rate of
swings at pitches in the zone, and Contact% referring to Peguero's rate of
hitting the ball when he swings.
这东西在数据上显示了出来,
先略过短暂的四月不谈,把焦点放在他较为固定出赛的五六月。
Month O-Swing% Z-Swing% Contact%
May 55% 79% 68%
June 41% 75% 73%
The first thing to know is that we're limited by the quality of the data, and
the data isn't perfect. These numbers aren't necessarily 100% accurate. But
they're close, and the sample sizes aren't tiny.
这数据有其限制亦非完美,但它们已经接近准确,样本数也不是太小。
And what we see is that Peguero has improved. The recent version of Peguero
is still aggressive. He still has some of the higher swing rates in baseball.
But in May, his O-Swing% was the highest. His overall Swing% was the highest.
His Contact% was third-lowest. His June numbers don't stand out so much. His
O-Swing% is high, but reasonable. His Contact% is low, but reasonable.
屁股肉进步了,最近的他出棒依旧积极,五月他的坏球出棒率(O-Swing%)跟出棒率
(Swing%)都是联盟最高、击中率(Contact%)则是倒数第三,六月他的数字就没那
麽扯了,O-Swing%很高但不吓人,Contact%还是很低但不会被人笑。
Carlos Peguero looks like he's learning, which goes along with the coaching
staff's statements that he's proven to be coachable. Over the past few weeks,
he has not been the mess that he was.
屁股肉看来正在学习,从教练团言论中屁股肉似乎颇为受教,过去几周,他不像先前
那样一团糟。
How much does it all mean? We'll have to see if this sticks, first of all.
Improvements must not only be made, but sustained. Additionally, Peguero's
still in a platoon, so it's not like he's suddenly emerging as a top young
player. But we're looking at an aggressive, powerful 24-year-old who struck
out 33% of the time in May, and 23% of the time so far in June. That's
exciting, because Peguero's gotten better, and the improvement suggests he
could get better still.
这代表什麽呢?我们得看看这现象能否维持。
屁股肉不是只有进步就好,还要持续进步,另外他仍受到 platoon 的保护,还不是个
突然冒出头的顶级年轻好手。但我们可以看见这个24岁的重炮手五月被三振率是33%,
六月则是降到了23%,这很令人兴奋,屁股肉的进步显示他可以越来越屌。
I'm not wild about Carlos Peguero, and I'm not convinced he has a great
future in the Major Leagues, but I like him now more than I used to. There's
a good player in there, and there are signs that the Mariners may be tracking
him down.
我不是屁股肉的粉丝,也不觉得他为未来会吓吓叫,但我现在喜欢他更甚以往。水兵可
以好好盯着这个好手的发展了。
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1F:推 Kitsu:出棒率联盟最高但击中率倒数第三..我笑惨了~"~ 06/18 21:03
2F:→ Kitsu:太可爱了~屁股肉!!! 感谢翻译推~ 屁股肉魂!!!! 06/18 21:03
3F:推 mizuhala0130:推 好文~~ 06/18 21:10
4F:推 jshuang:大概长成 A.Soriano 就算有赚了 06/18 21:11
5F:推 fleurami:大家怕被屁股肉猫到 但是都觉得苦主应该不是我 06/18 21:33
6F:推 ILER:不得不推楼上那句XDDDD 今天推土机就差点被猫出去 06/18 21:39
7F:推 delta33:Peguero以他的态度是值得肯定的,从他有一次平飞球跑垒就可 06/18 22:15
8F:→ delta33:以看得出来,Saunders天分比他更棒,但这阵子打不出来除了 06/18 22:17
9F:→ delta33:姿势被改,和攻击策略出了问题,态度也跟Peguero有点落差 06/18 22:18
10F:→ delta33:Jack Z在休季点名的那几个,真的不像空穴来风 06/18 22:18
11F:→ delta33:但Peguero扛中心棒次似乎还有点太早了 06/18 22:21
12F:推 BatmanII:长成 A.Soriano赚死了吧 06/18 22:50
13F:推 pjharper:坏球出棒率~~~~XD 06/18 23:01
14F:推 ILER:JZ 说了啥= =? D大话不要讲一半XDDDD 06/18 23:09
15F:→ delta33:5268篇 06/18 23:11
16F:推 Epsilon:楼上不知道吗?这事季前闹很大,爬个文说不定可以爬到。 06/18 23:11
17F:推 Tornadola:屁股肉风力虽然有点强,至少有时能把球吹出墙! 06/18 23:14
18F:推 tanaka0826:推翻译XDD 06/18 23:21
19F:推 yyoung:回去看5268感觉真是先知 06/18 23:45
20F:推 Atropos0723:我个人还是觉得小三很有希望,他应该是可以接先发OF的 06/19 00:49
21F:→ Atropos0723:虽然今年打成这鬼样子...... 06/19 00:49
22F:推 ILER:喔喔= = 这篇有看过 但是已经忘记了Orz 06/19 01:26
23F:推 Tornadola:小三现在要再上MLB,不太容易,这两年给的打数很多了 06/19 03:48
24F:推 BMHSEA:JZ应该没想到当初签Olivo,现在变捕手炮!!! 06/19 04:00
25F:推 casablanka:推翻译!!看到水兵小将有所成长真令人开心! 06/19 09:01
26F:推 aibakoji:小三再上来目前来看只是时间问题,如果Guti继续低潮 06/19 09:03
27F:推 Tornadola:Guti低潮,手套也比小三好... 06/19 09:04
28F:推 aibakoji:那好是多少?顶多就一场一两个SUPER play而已 06/19 09:09
29F:→ aibakoji:现在Guti没被检讨是因为大家体谅他生病 06/19 09:10
30F:→ aibakoji:如果他持续低潮到七月甚至八月,光酸Figgy不酸他就很不 06/19 09:11
31F:→ aibakoji:公平,要知道在Guti回来前,球队手套最好的三个位置 06/19 09:12
32F:→ aibakoji:刚好就是CF,3B和SS,小三是比不上Guti,但那个差距 06/19 09:13
33F:→ aibakoji:很有限,小到只要小三打击打出Guti生涯的水准就可以逆转 06/19 09:13
34F:推 Tornadola:小三今年吃了152 PA,要是打击有一定水准,也不会被下放 06/19 09:19
35F:→ Tornadola:多一两个Super play,看比赛至少也比较爽 06/19 09:20
36F:推 Atropos0723:降3A就是要调整的,而目前在Tacoma的成绩还不错...... 06/19 09:21
37F:推 aibakoji:这个吗Guti现在已经打了大概小三60%的PA了,两个人的OPS 06/19 09:21
38F:→ aibakoji:几乎是一样的,都比被酸爆的Figgy差,而且小三的美技 06/19 09:22
39F:→ aibakoji:在Guti受伤期间也没少到哪里去 06/19 09:22
40F:推 Tornadola:要是只能打出Guti生涯水准,请给更好的理由把Guti换掉 06/19 09:27
41F:→ Tornadola:不然手套没比较好,打击最多一样,有这麽容易就放板凳? 06/19 09:29
42F:→ Tornadola:guti的约至少到2014 06/19 09:30
43F:推 aibakoji:能打出Guti生涯水准就大胜现在的Guti了 06/19 09:30
44F:→ aibakoji:而且小三打好谁说一定要放CF,LF还空着呢 06/19 09:31
45F:→ Tornadola:"现在",之前的小三自己没把握好..... 06/19 09:31
46F:→ aibakoji:现在竞争LF那几个都不见得能站稳,说小三没机会太武断了 06/19 09:32
47F:→ Tornadola:你前面说的很像是小三顶Guti的位置呀 XD 06/19 09:32
48F:推 ILER:说的是小三顶Guti位置+1= = 怎麽最後一句变LF..... 06/19 11:10
49F:推 wtt168:感觉像左打的Sexson 06/19 11:15