作者doraemon0209 (哆啦A梦)
看板MMA
标题Re: [情报] UFC 210 Weight-in
时间Fri Apr 28 06:17:07 2017
原文恕删
其实b大在上一篇已经讲得很清楚了
只是小弟今天刚好看到'Big' John McCarthy针对这件事又做了评论 很多论点我蛮赞同的
所以决定简略截录几段给大家参考(只会讲述大意 不会逐字翻)
不过在这之前 先让我们厘清一下观念:
只有在你的"拳头"或/和"手掌"碰触地面才会构成非法膝击的条件
至於为什麽会这样规定 等会後面会提到
Brian Stann之前在影片中也有提到
(我觉得这影片也非常值得拿来一起参考 只是本文会着重在Big John的论点)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf2ahuYgA7o
@0:16
"The rules are clear, and there is no excuse for this thing to be so confused.
It is fists, or palms, or the combination fo the two. Period. There are no
figertips. There's no just touching the mat with both hands."
回到正文 接下来让我们来听听Big John的见解
(建议可以有时间可以把它看完 里头也有帮Dan Miragliotta抱屈
说他是因为角度问题而无法看到事情的全貌而有误判的情形
但本文重点会放在fighter本身的心态上
以及如果之後遇到这种局面最佳的应对方法为何)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHTBfKidf4I
@3:03
"We want a fighters to get away from what they are doing. In that stuation, we
want Chris Weidman (to) put your knee to the ground. Use your hands to defend
yourself. That's what they're there for. We don't want you to put your hands on
the ground. You're open to get your head to get uppercut in the first role."
@4:29
"Mousasi is the guy who got screwed over except for the ending. Because Mousasi
does things that are all legal for him to do. ... Chris will say 'I'm hurt' ...
and now they're taking him away from you to hurt you more and giving you time
to recover for something that was legal. That's bad."
@6:03
"If you're on your feet, and you want it to make yourself grounded by putting
your hands down, you'll have to put both hands--palms down or fists down
bearing weight--to make yourself grounded. So what I'm telling you is that:
don't ever f*cking do that."
@6:34
"And we did that in putting that rule in place because we didn't want someone
that was hurt falling forward and have a guy be able to come up and sucker kick
upon them to the face."
@7:48
"And Chris's corner is telling him 'Chris, you have time; Chris, stay down.'
They're milking something for their fighter ... And Chris is listening to them"
@8:24 (这个超好笑XD)
"He (ringside physician) said, 'what month is this?' And Chris said, 'Febuary.'
... But right away when they came back and said, 'Hey, that's good.' He said,
'It's April 8th.' ... He played himself into a loss."
@9:23
"If you're not hurt, don't play hurt. ... And if you're not hurt, get ready to
fight. Be there for what you're there for."
简单来说
会有拳头或手掌触地的情形 通常是因为某位选手在受到伤害时(ex: concussion)
因为晕眩或是生理上的痛苦而"自然地"往前倒
这项规则是为了防止选手受到二次伤害而订下的
绝对不是为了让选手刻意用这条规则来躲避伤害或是让对方lose by DQ
当你遇到像Chris那样的情况 本能的反应应该是赶快用双手挡住自己的脸防止被膝击
而不是刻意用你的指尖轻触地面 然後诈伤 试着利用这些外在因素来让自己获胜
有些人觉得裁判不应该改变判决 这样对Chris不公平
但其实真正受害的是Mousasi 因为他被夺走了一个clean TKO win
如果Chris真的一开始被膝击到月份都分不清楚 而且那个膝击最後证明是合法的
那Mousasi win by TKO完全没问题
医生在基於相信你的情况下 当然要保护你免於更进一步的伤害
而且让你直接继续比赛更是对对方不公平
因为你额外多了5min的时间来恢复体力并且重新调整状态 而这5min本来一开始就不该有的
这就好像提供每个被KO的选手5min看能不能站起来 可以的话就继续比赛是一样的道里
"Be there for what you're there for."
我觉得是Big John想传达给大家一个很重要的观念
MMA是一个非常危险的运动 绝对不是一般人随随便便就可以踏进的领域
除了比赛前宛如魔鬼特训般的training camp + dieting + weight cut
比赛时的mentality也很重要
"Kill or be killed"
我觉得是一个true warrior在踏进octagon前就要有的觉悟
这也是为什麽我们在看Lawler vs Condit会有种莫名的感动
尤其是他们最後都累到趴在墙边时 可以感受到他们真的left everything in the octagon
一点小小的心得与大家分享~
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