作者hunterqiji (hunter)
站内MLB
标题[情报] Donaldson to blue jays
时间Sat Nov 29 10:51:19 2014
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The Blue Jays have struck a deal to acquire third baseman Josh Donaldson from the Athletics, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter links). Infielder Brett Lawrie, righty Kendall Graveman, and shortstop Franklin Barreto are part of the package going back. Prospect Sean Nolin is also in the deal, Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports tweets.
This deal’s franchise-changing implications are evident on its face. Donaldson, 28, and Lawrie, 24, have each been viewed as cornerstone third basemen for their respective clubs.
MLB: Oakland Athletics at Toronto Blue Jays
Donaldson is, of course, the best piece moving in this swap and one of the more valuable commodities in all of baseball. A late bloomer, he had emerged as one of the game’s very best position players over the last two seasons. Collectively, he has slashed .277/.363/.477 with 53 home runs and 13 stolen bases over 1,262 plate appearances since the start of 2013. With stellar defense included, Donaldson has racked up 15.4 rWAR and 14.1 fWAR in that span.
Projected by Matt Swartz/MLBTR to earn $4.5MM in his Super Two season of arbitration eligibility, Donaldson was just starting off on a track to become rather pricey. But he comes with four seasons of control, and will unquestionably be paid less than his anticipated worth on the diamond.
Though significantly younger, Lawrie comes with one less year of control. He is, however, projected to take home just $1.8MM this season and will therefore also have a much lower starting point for his next two seasons of earnings.
On the other hand, he has yet to match Donaldson’s output in spite of his own, oft-noted ability. Over his first three-plus seasons in the bigs, Lawrie owns a .265/.323/.426 slash (good for a 104 OPS+) and has generally drawn solid-to-outstanding reviews on his defensive work. Injuries have limited his time on the field over each of the last two seasons, but Lawrie has generally performed at a well-above-average clip when healthy.
The other pieces involved are, of course, responsible for making up the gap in value between Donaldson and Lawrie. Barreto could be the hidden gem in the package, with Ben Badler of Baseball America noting on Twitter that the 18-year-old was the top July 2 prospect of two years prior and is probably at top-100 level player at this point.
豆爷送出Donaldson,拿到Lawrie+右投Graveman+SS Barreto+左投Nolin.
Graveman名列BA 2014 all-star team.
Barreto是2014季前蓝鸟农场排名第5.
Nolin是2014季前BA蓝鸟农场排名第10.
不知道这个交易moneyball是如何考虑的呢?
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1F:推 ppphantasy: 真假!!!大惊!!!豆爷之前还说不会动到Donaldson 11/29 10:52
2F:推 whalespirit: Lawrie在加拿大的高人气也以为不会动到QQ 11/29 10:53
3F:推 cd12631: wow.... 11/29 10:54
4F:推 ppphantasy: 好像是因为Donaldson有很大的机会拿到Super2? 11/29 10:54
5F:推 porten812: ............. 11/29 10:55
6F:→ ppphantasy: 为了省钱?? 11/29 10:55
7F:推 popso1217: Lawrie加拿大人耶 以为他地位最稳.. 11/29 10:55
8F:嘘 Eddward: 呃…豆爷 心里实在不能接受 有网友可以分析一下这走什麽 11/29 10:57
9F:推 bgp915117: ......................... 11/29 10:57
10F:→ Eddward: 步吗? 11/29 10:58
11F:推 yankees733: 别让豆爷不高兴 11/29 10:58
12F:推 msekili: ... 11/29 10:58
13F:→ popso1217: 而且他还可以转2垒不是吗 11/29 10:58
14F:推 cena0605: ???????????????????????主炮就这样走了??? 11/29 10:59
15F:推 Pandazov: WTF…… 11/29 11:00
16F:→ searoar: 小市场想要常胜不衰的方法 有价值的东西换更多更有价值的 11/29 11:02
17F:推 idioteque: 蓝鸟还送出Sean Nolin 11/29 11:02
18F:推 h2526bc: 再把先发轮值交易出去换打者回来!? 11/29 11:03
19F:推 qw6789q: 罗莉 QQ 11/29 11:05
20F:推 Levelmax99: 绿帽的脸........ 11/29 11:06
21F:推 mess0706: Lawrie不错啦 而且Donaldson算交易在高点吧? 11/29 11:07
22F:→ mess0706: 绿帽的脸就是豆爷啊 XD 11/29 11:07
23F:推 nobodyknow: 唉 帅哥还是离开了 Jed Lowrie没走 绿帽就有两个萝莉 11/29 11:10
24F:推 Werth: 可以不用看眼镜哥先发2B了吗 11/29 11:10
25F:推 albertlaw: Lowrie在蓝鸟人气很高说 继Dickey那次交易又被噱农场了 11/29 11:14
26F:→ albertlaw: Lawrie 11/29 11:14
※ asd831129:转录至看板 Blue_Jays 11/29 11:14
27F:嘘 coutji3184: 全队最喜欢的就是Donaldson...怎麽这样... 11/29 11:16
28F:推 ualileigod: Lawrie不要痛的话可以期待 11/29 11:16
29F:推 boston31: 明年美东 火药库更上一层楼 11/29 11:18
30F:→ albertlaw: Lawrie是本职二垒手 上大联盟才转三垒 11/29 11:20
31F:推 porten812: 话说Lowrie有要签回来吗 11/29 11:20
33F:→ DM24Tim: 虽然说迟早的事 但没想到是今年... 11/29 11:23
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34F:推 cliff02468: QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ我难过 11/29 11:25
35F:→ EEERRIICC: 水啦!! 这交易我喜欢 11/29 11:26
36F:推 watermelon20: 竟然把脸交易掉了XDD 实在太魔了~~ 11/29 11:29
37F:推 Sindush: 我订的Donaldson球迷版球衣还在半路… 11/29 11:32
38F:→ Sindush: 还没收到就变纪念衣了…… 11/29 11:32
39F:推 acd51874: 楼上拍拍 蓝鸟球衣可以顺便多买件40号 看有没有打 11/29 11:35
40F:→ acd51874: 折 11/29 11:35
41F:推 takuno: 加拿大的脸就这样被交易走了Q__Q 11/29 11:35
42F:推 alex710707: 蓝鸟这包好差 11/29 11:38
43F:推 pejahuang: 我还觉得蓝鸟被抢... 11/29 11:39
44F:→ acd51874: 蓝鸟被抢+1 11/29 11:40
45F:推 aa97531aa: WTF … 11/29 11:44
46F:→ takuno: Lawrie如果不那麽痛痛其实成绩跟Donaldson差别没有很多 11/29 11:44
47F:推 hatedog5566: 运动家哪次交易被抢的= =? 11/29 11:47
48F:→ hatedog5566: 蓝鸟被抢很正常吧 11/29 11:47
49F:推 pejahuang: 运动家算被小熊抢阿,头号农场SS 11/29 11:49
50F:推 jackmou: 蓝鸟被抢+1 11/29 11:50
51F:推 popso1217: 不过蓝鸟打线又更恐怖了 11/29 11:51
52F:嘘 pray7th: nooooooooooooooooooooooooo 11/29 11:52
53F:推 sdc4589: Worst. Trade. Ever 11/29 11:56
54F:推 BLACKLIONS: Lawrie!!!!!!!!!! 11/29 12:02
55F:推 bgp915117: 差别哪里没有很多... 11/29 12:02
56F:推 OoyaoO: WOW...Lawrie 他不是加拿大人准备变成下个看板球星的吗 11/29 12:08
57F:推 fountainNess: wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 11/29 12:08
58F:推 a126053: 差别没有很多是怎麽看的?? 11/29 12:16
59F:推 miabcd199: 豆爷被百年抢 现在抢蓝鸟抢回来? 11/29 12:23
60F:推 csy1911: 个人认为蓝鸟赚,那两只投手都是後段天分,另一只游击有 11/29 12:23
61F:→ searoar: 蓝鸟少了HOF和kobe 11/29 12:24
62F:→ csy1911: 天分但还很嫩,Lawrie再痛下去就只是个略好的工具人而已 11/29 12:25
63F:→ csy1911: Donaldson可以用到2019,嫌贵应该也能卖到不错的价格 11/29 12:26
64F:推 alex710707: 早知道换Donaldson只要这样,红袜签熊猫前应该先问问 11/29 12:29
65F:→ csy1911: 蓝鸟Storman、Sanchez、Norris都没出,说不上是被抢 11/29 12:30
66F:推 alex710707: 我也不太懂 联盟前几名的3B炮还可便宜用5年 结果连 11/29 12:35
67F:→ alex710707: Storman、Sanchez、Norris任一只都换不到 11/29 12:36
68F:推 leoturkey: Lawrie到底打不打得出来啊.... 11/29 12:36
69F:推 jarr2610: stroman才对 11/29 12:42
70F:→ EEERRIICC: Jays应该不会丢那几只年轻手臂 要打天下补个炮很好 11/29 12:45
71F:嘘 Eddward: 豆爷出手太早 觉得被蓝鸟抢 11/29 12:45
72F:推 SlamKai: 0.0 11/29 13:02
73F:推 mathrew: 身为绿帽迷 支持的会是豆爷 不是球员 请接受吧 11/29 13:07
74F:推 vg175: Graveman 好酷的姓 11/29 13:07
75F:→ vg175: 加拿大本地看板已经又来一个Martin可以取代了 11/29 13:09
76F:→ searoar: 五年"相对"便宜不是绝对0.5+0.5+0.5>1的经营法才能活下去 11/29 13:10
77F:推 ishimaru: 4>1 故蓝鸟被抢无误 (?) 11/29 13:13
78F:嘘 DHCCF: 靠 … 怎麽可以 11/29 14:41
79F:推 condition0: 借转 11/29 15:18
※ condition0:转录至看板 Athletics 11/29 15:18
80F:推 sdc4589: 蓝鸟是被抢个屁... 11/29 15:23
81F:推 DINGYENCHIN: 豆爷总是让人猜不透,最後效果也一样让人意外~ 11/29 15:24
82F:嘘 imaskypig: 蓝鸟被抢 11/29 16:04
83F:嘘 saiulbb: 纯嘘蓝鸟GM 交易不划算 11/29 16:11
84F:推 jimmy20642: 蓝鸟赚 绿帽合理 11/29 16:56
85F:嘘 JoeGibsonJr: 崩溃 11/29 17:18
86F:推 Serphim: MLB前几名的3B炮能用好几年 且不需要动用前几名的农作物 11/29 18:08
87F:→ Serphim: 看到这包 红袜都会後悔买下熊猫了 11/29 18:09
88F:推 coutji3184: 红袜再来跟运动家谈交易吗? 运动家超多红袜人的= = 11/29 18:55
89F:推 secpeda: 运动家新脸.... 11/29 19:53
90F:→ jet113102: 绿帽赚翻.... 11/29 20:14
91F:→ Serphim: 洋基表示:我出5个农场新人让你赚翻天 欢迎来抢劫 11/29 20:25
92F:推 ksaon: 蓝鸟农场吐光光 11/29 20:59
93F:推 Carmelo3: = = 11/29 21:19
94F:推 wafone: ... 11/29 22:29
95F:推 edwardcwd: 就蓝绿交替 11/29 23:00
96F:推 sabertomoaki: 楼上wwwww 11/29 23:20
97F:推 acd51874: 意思是绿帽大赚吗XDDDDDDD 11/30 00:05
98F:推 VeronicaMars: 今天早上收到蓝鸟队寄来的email说换到Donaldson吓到 11/30 00:08
99F:推 s955346: 蓝鸟小亏 :DDD 11/30 00:40
100F:嘘 darvipon: 运动家的脸就这样被交易掉了 11/30 10:19
101F:推 OoyaoO: 运动家的看板不是豆爷吗 11/30 18:28
102F:推 acd51874: 厮以为是布莱得比特 11/30 18:33
103F:推 condition0: 怒火号: 11/30 20:23
104F:→ EEERRIICC: 这几年运动家有看板吗 11/30 20:51
105F:→ epw: 运动家看板不一直是布莱德彼特和那只象? 11/30 21:16
106F:推 coutji3184: Coco Crisp可能是待最久的... 11/30 22:04
107F:→ aibakoji: 运动家的脸一直都是豆爷无误 12/01 01:25
108F:→ Lacus0827: 蓝鸟今年没拼出来就惨了 12/01 12:22
109F:推 acd51874: 红袜在招兵买马 蓝鸟请自求多福 或者要去埋球衣了 12/01 13:28