作者allqwdd (乳乳)
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标题[外电] some info about MO's BS and other
时间Thu May 30 15:54:00 2013
When 29 other closers blow a save, we file it under Stuff Happens.
When Mariano Rivera blows a save, it's An Event. Still. All these years and
all these saves later.
So what happened at Citi Field on Tuesday, when the Greatest Closer Who Ever
Lived blew a save in which he faced three hitters and retired none of them?
Let's get to the bottom of this:
MO星期二在Citi Field的那次BS,他可是一个打者都没有解决。
那这底下有甚麽有趣的东西吗? 让我们来瞧瞧。
‧ The Elias Sports Bureau tells us this was the first time in Rivera's
career he'd ever blown a save without retiring a hitter. Think about that. It
took him only 700 save opportunities! You can make that 747 if you count the
postseason, because it never happened there, either.
Elias Sports Bureau告诉我们,这是MO生涯第一次在没解决任何打者的状况下BS。
再想一下,他生涯只有700次拿Save的机会,喔如果你加上季後赛,那是747次。
不过这都无所谓,因为他从来没有一个打者都没解决就BS。
‧ Just to put that in perspective, another Yankees closer from a different
era, Sparky Lyle, rolled up 12 blown saves in which he forgot to get an out.
Twelve. (And I didn't even count the two years he pitched before the
invention of the modern save rule.) And Jesse Orosco had 11 blown saves in
his career in which he didn't retire a hitter. But Mariano Rivera? He had
zero -- until Tuesday night.
拿几个不同世代的洋基终结者来比较一下,Sparky Lyle,这个不同年代的人
生涯有12次BS是一个出局数都没拿到的,12次。我甚至还没算上规则不同的那两年呢。
而Jesse Orosco的生涯则是有11次忘了拿出局数,但MO? 0 -- 直到星期二晚上。
‧ So who's your current leader in the clubhouse now that Mariano is off that
list? Jonathan Papelbon is up to 300 career save opportunities without a
zero-out blown save -- 309 if you count October.
那假如把MO从这个排名榜上拿下来,第一名会是谁呢?
宝贝碰 -- 他的300次Save机会,也没有一次是一个打者都没解决就BS。
加上季後赛的话是309。
‧ But what made this night especially bizarre was that Rivera threw out the
ceremonial first pitch, then gave it up on his last pitch. The guy who caught
that first pitch was one-time Mets closer John Franco. For the record, he had
four blown saves in which he didn't get anyone out.
但让这个晚上显得有点诡异的地方是MO负责今晚的开球,接球的人则是Mets以前的终结者
John Franco。喔顺便提一下,这个Franco生涯有四次BS是一个打者都没解决的。
‧ The Great Mariano had saved 18 games in a row before that blown save.
Amazingly, that's the ninth streak in his career in which he converted at
least 18 saves in a row. (And he had two other streaks of 17.) That'll work.
伟大的MO在那天BS之前是连续18次救援成功,这是他生涯第九次连续救援成功至少18次。
另外他还有两次是连续救援成功17次。
‧ Of Rivera's last 30 save opportunities against NL teams, he has blown only
two -- both against the Mets, at Citi Field, with those two coming in his
last two appearances there. And here's a factoid that will blow your mind:
过去30次MO面对国联的球队出来救援只有两次失败,而这两次都是对Mets,都是在
Citi Field,也刚好就是Mo面对Mets的最近这两次,诡异的事又出现了!
As loyal reader Eric Orns reports, the Mets have now had seven consecutive
hitters reach base when Rivera was on the mound over those two games --
although one of them (on July 3, 2011) wouldn't have been there without a
Ramiro Pena error. Don't believe it? Here they come, the last seven Mets to
face Rivera in those two appearances:
身为一个Eric Orns reports的忠实读者,你会发现Mets面对Rivera已经连续七个打者
上了垒包(也就是让MO BS的这两场比赛),虽然有一个是因为Ramiro Pena的失误所以
才上垒的啦。不相信吗? Here we come,最近七个大都会打者面对MO的打击状况。
July 3, 2011:
Jason Bay -- walk
Lucas Duda -- single
Ronny Paulino -- RBI single
Ruben Tejada -- reached on Pena error
Tuesday:
Daniel Murphy -- double
David Wright -- RBI single
Lucas Duda -- RBI single
Amazin'.
这很酷,不是吗?
Now remember, a guy reaching on an error doesn't count under the category of
Mariano Rivera "allowing a runner to reach base." Only hits, walks and
hit-by-pitches fall under that heading. Nevertheless, the most consecutive
hitters who wound up on base against him, under any circumstances, when he's
faced any other team? That would be just four. So seven in a row? Insanity!
现在请记住,基本上失误上垒我们是不会把它算在MO头上的,会算在他头上的只有
安打,保送和触身球。但根据纪录,别的任何队伍在任何情况下面对MO最多只有
连续四人上垒的纪录,但现在是连续七个? 酷毙了!
Useless Information Dept.
In other news …
不重要资讯部门。
别的消息。
‧ The most top-secret great shortstop in baseball, the Brewers' Jean Segura,
got six hits in a game Tuesday -- and his team still lost. He was the fourth
player ever to get six hits in an interleague game, joining Chone Figgins,
Nomar Garciaparra and Cal Ripken Jr. But how 'bout this:
虽然Jean Segura在星期六的比赛击出了六支安打,但他的队伍还是输了。
他是史上第四位球员在跨联盟的比赛中击出六支安打,加入了Chone Figgins,
Nomar Garciaparra和Cal Ripken JR. 但来看看下面这个。
Two of those four men (Segura and Garciaparra) did it in a game their team
lost. But in non-interleague action, no National League hitter has gotten six
hits in a game his team lost since Sept. 13, 1982, when San Diego's Joe
Lefebvre did it in a loss to the Dodgers.
这四位中的两位(Segura and Garciaparra)的球队还是很可惜的输球了。但在不是
跨联盟比赛的赛事中,自从1982年9月13号,教士队的Joe Lefebrve在对道奇的那场
赛事中敲出了6支安打最後球队输球之後,没有任何一个国联球员这麽虽过了。
‧ Another Jean Segura oddity: Every one of those six hits was a single. Only
15 other players in the past 98 seasons have had a six-hit game in which all
half-dozen of the hits were singles. And maybe those six-single games are
overrated. Of the 10 men who have had a game like Segura's in the past 60
years, only four of them did it in a game their team won.
有关Jean Segura补充:他的6支安打通通都是Single,在过去的98个球季只有15个球员
在单场敲了六支安打并且全部都是Single,其实说不定这个人数的纪录是高估的,
因为这15个人有10个人的纪录是60年前的,喔对了这群人之中只有四个人是在这个
状况下球队还输球。
‧ You probably know that Segura was traded last July for Zack Greinke. You
might not know that Segura could have a tough time claiming he's the best
hitter in that trade. That's because Greinke is hitting .500 this year -- 10
at-bats, five hits. Top that!
也许你还记得Segura是去年酿酒人用Greinke换来的,但你可能不知道Segura可能
不是这个交易案中"最好"的打者。因为Greinke 今年的打击率 .500 5-10,这可比
Segura高多了呢。XD
‧ How many three-ball counts did Cliff Lee run in his eight innings against
the Red Sox on Tuesday? That would be none. There have been a total of 1,536
games started by all the pitchers in the big leagues so far this season.
There have been only two other games in which any starter worked eight
innings or more and ran zero three-ball counts, according to Elias: Brandon
McCarthy (against the Phillies) on May 12, and Hisashi Iwakuma (against the
Rangers) -- just two days before Lee. Last pitcher to do it against those
count-grinding Red Sox: David Price last Sept. 25.
Cliff Lee在对红袜投了八局的内容中。有没有投到三坏球的情况?
一次都没有。
大联盟这季到目前为止两边投手共投了1,536场比赛,除了Cliff Lee,只有另外两个投手
投了八局(或八局以上)但却没有投到三坏球过,根据Elias: 5/12的Brandon McCarthy
对费城和在Cliff Lee对红袜的前两天,水手的Hisashi Iwakuma对游骑兵。
‧ Rick Porcello became the fourth Tigers starter to roll up a double-figure
strikeout game this season -- and it isn't even June yet. So when was the
last time the Tigers have had that happen? Never, of course. But in case you
hadn't noticed, they're not even the first staff to do that this year --
because the Cardinals beat them to it.
Rick Porcello是老虎本季第四位单场投出10K以上的投手,现在甚至还没到六月呢。
所以上次老虎单季有四位单场投超过10K的投手是甚麽时候?
从来没有。
但提醒你一下,老虎并不是本季第一个达到这成就的队伍,因为红雀已经先做到瞜。
‧ A fun tidbit from the Boston Globe's Pete Abraham: David Ortiz went 1,859
games over parts of 17 years without stealing third base. Then, naturally, he
stole third twice in five games last week. Heck, of course he did.
来自Boston一个有趣的统计,David Ortiz 17年来有1,859场比赛没有盗三垒,但过去
的五场比赛,他盗了两次。
‧ The Royals have now lost seven games in a row. As the great Rany Jazayerli
reports, they've now had a losing streak that lasted at least six games in 10
seasons in a row -- before they flipped the calendar to June. They probably
don't want to know that both the Giants and Rangers have now gone more than
400 games without having any six-game losing streaks.
皇家目前七连败,根据Rany jazayerli的报导,他们目前已经连续十季每季至少都有
六连败了。目前还不到六月呢,它们可能不想要知道巨人和游骑兵在最近的400场
比赛没有嚐过六连败的滋味了。
‧ And one last nugget I've been meaning to pass along: In their May 20 loss
to the Indians, the Mariners did something incredible: They hit game-tying or
go-ahead homers in the eighth, ninth and 10th innings -- and still lost.
最後一项,水手在5/20输给了印地安人的比赛中他们创下了壮举。
它们在第八局、第九局、第十局都敲出了追平轰或着是超前轰。
但他们最後还是输了。
Only one other team in history has ever done that, according to the Sultan of
Swat Stats, SABR home run historian David Vincent. The Tigers did it at Tampa
Bay, on Aug. 3, 2008:
历史上只有另一支球队有干过类似的事,根据Sultan of Swat Stats,那就是
2008年8月3日,老虎队对光芒的比赛了。
Gary Sheffield game-tier in the eighth, Curtis Granderson game-tier in the
ninth, Miguel Cabrera go-ahead homer in the 10th -- all of which was undone
by a Fernando Rodney blown save in the bottom of the 10th. Oops!
Gary Sheffield在第八局打回来追平分,Curtis Granderson在第九局打回追平分,
Miguel Cabrera则在第十局打出超前分 -- 但在Rodney的BS下,这一切都显得空欢喜
一场!! Oops!
http://0rz.tw/4Mxol
这作者专门搞这些有的没的纪录,还有我最爱看的September History Watch。
今年九月很高兴再为大家服务。
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※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc)
◆ From: 140.120.203.118
1F:推 PsMonkey:泪推 Mo... 那天我真不该打开电视机看到这历史性的一刻XD 05/30 16:01
2F:推 Ktime:Mo~ 05/30 16:02
3F:→ best2008:没看到就可惜了(以後没机会了 05/30 16:03
4F:推 EJ6:未看先推Jayson Stark 05/30 16:08
5F:推 ps20012001:XDDD..所以说是神人啊 BS才是新闻 05/30 16:09
6F:→ guest001:MO第一次被保送好像也是在这球场? 05/30 16:13
7F:推 whalespirit:看完了 推MO 推Ortiz XD 05/30 16:14
8F:→ whalespirit:好文不M吗 05/30 16:14
9F:推 jaysuzuki:每个都好有趣XD 05/30 16:21
10F:推 krauserq:Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 05/30 16:22
11F:推 david18:好有趣~~水手那场真是洗三温暖啊XDDDDD 05/30 16:23
12F:推 feather7589:推推 05/30 16:24
13F:推 gary63122:超有趣阿XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 05/30 16:38
14F:推 seeyou1002:但他们最後还是输了。 05/30 16:39
15F:推 starcry:开季才两个月有打到1536场比赛吗? 05/30 16:45
16F:推 tviii:推!!不错的纪录 05/30 16:51
17F:推 tetsufuu:一些数据都蛮有趣的 05/30 16:54
※ allqwdd:转录至看板 NY-Yankees 05/30 16:58
18F:推 m0324h1987:推 05/30 17:58
19F:→ klarc:应该不能这样翻 是两边投手投了1536场 其实只打768场而已 05/30 18:01
的确我翻得不够完整,感谢指正。
20F:推 jardon:真的是神 05/30 18:04
※ 编辑: allqwdd 来自: 140.120.203.118 (05/30 18:28)
21F:推 Mrlegend:Good 05/30 18:28
22F:推 ocean11:看MO的BS比较难,SV很容易看到 05/30 18:31
23F:推 bh962603:Ortiz盗三垒是怎样XD 05/30 18:40
24F:推 evilvens: 05/30 19:04
25F:推 cd12631:520水兵那场我还熬夜看到凌晨4点多.....结果还是看到输... 05/30 19:26
26F:推 asd778a:Mo好像那一场被保送还有打点@@ 我有看 忘记了 05/30 19:31
27F:推 andwhose:许多新奇的数据 05/30 19:56
28F:推 papelbon58:Papelbon不错嘛xdd 05/30 20:00
29F:推 MattCain:推啦 05/30 20:04
30F:推 ps20012001:500SV那场吗...Mo生涯首打点入手..XDDD 超欢乐的 05/30 20:08
31F:推 ss60115:!!! 05/30 20:28
32F:→ pathfinder:K-Rod:哼哼,我只是不小心投个BB而已,你可不要误会了! 05/30 20:34
33F:推 WLR:满垒时MO"选"到BB挤回一分那场有跟到XD 05/30 22:14
34F:推 Sparksfly:看了好想买他们的书 哈哈 05/30 22:15
35F:推 catsondbs:Rodney跟光芒真有缘 05/30 23:28
36F:推 hughjetman:愈看愈想笑 尤其是看到Rodney的时候 05/30 23:44
37F:推 fetoyeh:MO有打点那场真的超好笑的 连稻草人战术都出现了 XDD 05/31 02:43
38F:推 chrisinptt:哇靠 是乳乳! 05/31 08:29
39F:→ allqwdd:呜呜 05/31 09:34
40F:→ allqwdd:是勳哥! 05/31 09:35
41F:推 mikachen:看到MO BS要赶快去买乐透吧 05/31 10:27