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http://tinyurl.com/7eyk5xp Jack Zduriencik knew why I had called before I even asked a question. Depending upon your perspective, it’s either good or bad that Jack Z is reading my mind. I say good, because Jack Z is always pleasant about it, and maybe he and I can one day take our act on the road. “Trade Felix,” I say. “No,” Jack Z replies. Now before Mariners fans get all upset with me again for suggesting to their GM that he trade right-hander Felix Hernandez, allow me to cite two recent developments: ‧ The Padres’ boffo return for right-hander Mat Latos, a pitcher who isn’t nearly as good as Hernandez (who is?). ‧ The Athletics’ strong return for left-hander Gio Gonzalez, another pitcher who isn’t nearly as good as Hernandez. ‧ The stunning offseason additions of the Rangers and Angels, who no longer are simply the best teams in the AL West, but perhaps the best in the American League. The Mariners, even if they somehow sign free-agent first baseman Prince Fielder, aren’t going to make the playoffs next season, and probably wouldn’ t qualify in 2013, either. I understand the fan opposition to trading Hernandez, but the goal is not to destroy the M’s, it’s to make them better. The Yankees, as I wrote in March, are a logical trade partner, deep in young talent and strong enough financially to absorb the $58 million left on the final three years of Hernandez’s contract. For King Felix, other teams would jump, too. Zduriencik, though, says that he doesn’t want to hear it, that his plan is to keep Hernandez and make him the anchor for the team’s emerging rotation. I get that — the Mariners’ young starting pitchers, if everything breaks right, might rank among the best in the game in two or three years. But here’s the problem: Hernandez, 25, is under contract only through 2014. And if the Mariners don’ t turn it around during that time, he will not stay in Seattle out of the goodness of his heart. He’ll be gone. As Yankees GM Brian Cashman advised reporters last season when judging A.J. Burnett, it’s time for the Mariners to “smoke the objective pipe.” As the Rays have shown in the AL East, the only way to compete with high-revenue behemoths is to assemble a large number of high-end young players and have them hit at once. That was the Padres’ motivation for trading Latos, the Royals’ motivation for trading Zack Greinke. Granted, Hernandez is at a different level. Granted, the M’s can support much higher payrolls. But why not commit fully to rebuilding? OK, Jack, your turn: “I still say, as I’ve said all along, we’ve still got the best young pitcher in the game, and that’s pretty darned good,” Zduriencik said, referring to Hernandez. “One thing we have here — what we’re really excited about — is young pitching. You take Felix and (Michael) Pineda. We think James Paxton is going to be really good. We’ll give him a chance in spring training. Same with (Danny) Hultzen. We’ve got a young kid, Taijuan Walker, who might be the best of them all. Erasmo Ramirez . . . “We’re a year or less from having some of these really good arms sitting on our ballclub. It’s kind of what we’re hanging our hats on right now. All of us are excited about what’s going to happen in the next year or two.” And Jack, I’d be right there with you, if only the Mariners could hit. The M’s last season scored 556 runs, ranking last in the majors for the second straight year. The Padres — playing in cavernous Petco Park, without the benefit of a DH, in their first season without Adrian Gonzalez — scored 593. Even if the Mariners could get Fielder — and I’m highly skeptical that he would choose them over a team with a more realistic chance of contending soon — how much of a difference would he actually make? The M’s seem to believe that the effect would be exponential, that they would get not just Fielder’s 120 RBI, but benefit from his ripple effect throughout the lineup. Fielder would absorb the middle-of-the-order pressure. Younger hitters such as Mike Carp, Justin Smoak and Kyle Seager would be free to be themselves. Makes sense in theory, but Fielder might walk 200 times in such a lineup. Opponents would have little incentive to pitch to him, preferring to attack younger hitters instead. More to the point, what happens if the M’s don’t get Fielder? Catcher John Jaso currently stands as their big addition. And it’s too late in the offseason for them to make other moves of consequence. No, better to go the other way. Not all of the Mariners’ young pitchers and hitters are going to develop in the way that club officials anticipate. The more prospects a team collects, the greater the chances that it will succeed. Zduriencik had the right idea last summer, sacrificing wins to acquire a strong return for right-hander Doug Fister and a lesser one for lefty Erik Bedard. Now Jack Z should go to the Yankees and demand essentially the same package I suggested last March — catcher Jesus Montero, infielder Eduardo Nunez and right-hander Ivan Nova plus righty Dellin Betances or lefty Manny Banuelos. Maybe the Yankees wouldn’t budge on Nova, who went 16-4 with a 3.70 ERA last season. Fine, tell them to include two different youngsters, make it a 5-for-1. For King Felix, the Yankees would part waters, move mountains and — surprise! — blow past the dreaded luxury-tax threshold yet again. Jack? “You get people who will throw it out there: ‘Don’t forget, if you ever want to do something (with Hernandez), let me know,’” Zduriencik said, without mentioning the Yankees specifically. “It’s more of an inquiry than anything else . . . People are courteous. They understand where we stand. We’ve been pretty strong on our desire to keep him here.” I know, Jack, I know. We’ll talk again soon. --- 不过水手部落格(USS Mariner/Prospect Insider) 普遍的看法好像是比较想用Pineda当交易筹码就是了 --



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1F:→ Tukiyomi:又要钓鱼了 12/29 13:40
2F:推 arsia:卖出去 等一朗退休 水手还要卖谁的脸 12/29 13:41
3F:推 okinawa8: Ackley: 12/29 13:43
4F:→ buttery:可以学隔壁的运动家养族谱,反正目前看来KING到这个合约结 12/29 13:44
5F:→ buttery:束前,没有机会进季後赛,等真的合约结束,应该也会想进FA 12/29 13:46
6F:推 four5:又来了 zzzz........ 12/29 13:48
7F:→ abc12812:Felix明年开始可就不便宜了,我不觉得交易是很离谱的想法 12/29 13:58
8F:→ kennyone:trade King Felix... you think too much..... 12/29 14:00
9F:推 tunababy:那不是一般的不便宜...所以交易困难度很高... 12/29 14:05
10F:推 sexyfunny:现今人不冲一下吗?虽然这必定会把Montero交易出去 12/29 14:09
11F:→ sexyfunny: 金 12/29 14:09
12F:推 mika0120:借转水兵版 12/29 14:16
mika0120:转录至看板 Mariners 12/29 14:16
13F:推 jason12308:除了现金人,没人会买了...他等很久了 12/29 14:21
14F:推 nickyang:Ptt法则一:任何人想交易King都是抢劫 12/29 14:25
15F:推 Pennyjr:ptt法则二:球迷的交易文永远不是抢劫,都是为了别队好 12/29 14:30
16F:推 j07242054:冲去被挂电话 12/29 14:32
17F:推 aintvrdfg:yy 12/29 14:33
18F:→ PlayStation3:怒挂一通。 12/29 14:35
19F:推 mika0120:果然有人要上钩了 12/29 14:44
20F:推 qwe115109:不易外 12/29 14:50
21F:推 KayRain:都不要卖啊 就继续陪打吧 12/29 14:53
22F:推 tys1231:洋基要交易到~可能要把农场通通给水兵! 12/29 14:53
23F:推 vg175:如果剩下的薪水要洋基通吃,也不见得农场就会被清光光 12/29 15:01
24F:推 sezna:水兵到底要重建几年 12/29 15:02
25F:推 jerryklu:如果说签小王子都没救,那卖了不是一样在陪打? 12/29 15:18
26F:推 mdfh:今年第二次 XD 12/29 15:24
27F:→ j07242054:剩下的薪水是说水兵整队剩下的薪水吗 12/29 15:27
28F:推 tunababy:King Felix 12:$18.5M, 13:$19.5M, 14:$20M 12/29 16:23
29F:推 MontaEllis8:以他的身手和年纪20M还OK吧? 12/29 17:25
30F:推 johnnynono:确实有点肥的约,当然他值得 12/29 17:25
31F:→ johnnynono:但当你花20M养ACE球队却年年无缘季後赛时就有点浪费 12/29 17:26
32F:→ johnnynono:还是看水手自己评估重建进度如何,如果觉得快好了 12/29 17:26
33F:→ johnnynono:就不要交易了,若体质还是差那交易似乎聪明点 12/29 17:27
34F:→ badblue:其实NYY今年还没出手是因为在等King?Orz 12/29 17:40
35F:推 mdfh:天使条子今年玩这麽大 可能还要等等 12/29 17:49
36F:推 azlbf:如果约到只钱没办法形成战力 不如趁有价来抢劫 12/29 17:56
37F:→ azlbf:如果能抢到NYY的强打+双B 整个就大赚阿 12/29 17:57
38F:推 magicagar:水手需要的是道长 不是KING啊 XD 12/29 17:59
39F:→ Huff:还不到一个月,又来钓了 12/29 18:14
40F:→ yeng1217:是说某人被劣文所以也不能发问了XD 12/29 18:19
41F:推 tunababy:当你想要dump20M的约,而市场上大概只有洋基能吃的下时 12/29 18:20
42F:→ tunababy:你要如何大赚? 12/29 18:21
43F:推 tunababy:拿Latos和Gio Gonzales来比根本天差地远... 12/29 18:26
44F:推 immortalqq:latos跟gio的等级的确不能跟king比 但薪水也是 12/29 19:01
45F:推 erickruklin:az大在说笑吧 整个农场给水手 还是有人会说洋基抢劫 12/29 20:55
46F:→ erickruklin:等下被炮就不好了 还是不要说水兵大赚这种话 12/29 20:56
47F:推 mrbioway:现金人准备好了 12/29 21:26
48F:推 ILER:媒体崩溃完 换别人崩溃就对了= = 12/29 22:31
49F:推 SatoTakuma:A-ROD <=> King 12/30 01:26
50F:推 dw1012:上面那个换不到 12/30 01:27
51F:→ PlayStation3:把AROD换回来是想看西雅图人嘘暴自家选手嘛? 12/30 01:33
52F:推 hirdaramani:标准自爽文 12/30 10:58
53F:嘘 ppoll2:大家人真好 01/01 15:09







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