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标题Re: [情报] Harper likely moving to CF; wants Se …
时间Tue Feb 15 02:25:25 2011
首先要澄清一下 内野身手可比A-Rod~~捕手可比猫儿,这句话指的是未来性而非现今程度
来源是
worked out at shortstop and third base and has been compared favorably to
Alex Rodriguez and Justin Upton - both former No. 1 overall picks.
http://major-league-baseball.suite101.com/article.cfm/bryce_harper_profile
Law projects his ceiling as Joe Mauer. Not bad.
http://www.baseballrumormill.com/2009/06/bryce-harper-scouting-report/
除非我认知有误,他应该不会只是说,未来只有A-rod跟Mauer的打击能力
而完全忽略防守
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他在5-tools里最被批评的确是fielding ability
Fielding: He's a little raw with his technique and fundamentals but has the
tools to be an above-average catcher. Some are concerned with a
tendency to lunge at pitches, but that might be correctable.
He also plays third and the outfield and probably would
profile better in right field than he would at third.
他在基本技巧有一些小问题,但还是有捕手平均水准以上的工具
有些球探认为他传球出手角度奇怪,但这应是可修正的。
他也能站三垒和外野,但他站右外野应该会比他守三垒好。
PS:他传二垒只需2秒内(1.8~1.9),一般MLB捕手大概 2~~~2.1秒
Range: Even though he's pretty big, he's got flexibility in his lower half.
That allows him to get down low and move very well laterally.
即使他相当大只,他下半身还是很有灵活性
这够让他蹲低而且有非常好的横向移动
来源:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7222475
以下这个是5-tools的影片给各位参考一下,老实说我也觉得他出手角度跟一般球员不同
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7fsl3_SAU
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另外还有一篇完全跟baseball america唱反调的球探报告,昨天扫网站的时候看到的
提到这家伙是over rated,甚至太早选了
给他的PROSPECT分数也很低,节录一段
GRADES (Present/Future):
Hit 50/50
Power 50/60
Arm 60/60
Field 30/50
Run 50/50
Overall Future Potential: 54
What the Grades Mean:
1.70-80. These are star prospects
2.55-69. These are above-average prospects who project to be quality starters
on major league teams.
3.53-54.
These are everyday prospects. These are solid starters that may be
offensive-oriented players.
作者是John Klima,认为他将来大概只是个固定先发的选手
我是不知道他是什麽来头,跟BA评价他是Baseball's Lebron,60年来最强少年差很多
http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/04/08/bryce-harper-report
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最後回归一下主题,在下是觉得如有All-star内野和捕手的潜力何必转外野
除了原文:学习如何当一个好捕手所需的时间,太久了
和板友
waitla:让他转3B/OF只是因为这样可以提早上major
还看到另外一篇捕手膝盖所承受压力非常大,容易受伤
像Piazza,Posada,Mauer这种捕手仍拥有打击实力的天才没几个
他提出一个看法,就是生涯最多打席数排前10位的没任何捕手
且前三名打者都是外野手
Career Leaders & Records for At Bats
Rank Player At Bats Bats POS
1. Pete Rose 14053 B OF
2. Hank Aaron+ 12364 R OF
3. Carl Yastrzemski+ 11988 L OF
4. Cal Ripken+ 11551 R SS/3B
5. Ty Cobb+ 11434 L OF
6. Eddie Murray+ 11336 B 1B
7. Robin Yount+ 11008 R SS/OF
8. Dave Winfield+ 11003 R OF
9. Stan Musial+ 10972 L OF/1B
10. Rickey Henderson+ 10961 R OF
外野手棒球生涯很长的比比皆是
而Ripken这种守SS还不会受伤又可以保持世界记录的强者太少见了
不知道Harper的身体强度在哪,却可知国民保护他的心态一览无遗
但有没有能力练内野或捕手?根据球探报告应该有的
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1F:推 mess0706:推Cal Ripken 02/15 02:44
2F:推 uilnivla:传球出手角度的确怪怪的 很容易受伤的感觉 02/15 03:31
3F:→ HankJiang:有点像侧传~出手点有时甚至变下肩... 02/15 04:00
4F:推 nickyang:5-tool那个影片1:10挥得非常漂亮啊!不过那是打红中就是了 02/15 05:08
5F:推 soaringfish:"might be correctable"意思是 "可以修正的" 02/15 06:16
感谢
6F:推 amab212:推铁人 小 瑞普肯 02/15 09:43
7F:推 pallos50:....投球 96 mile 02/15 09:56
8F:推 evilvens:期待!!! 02/15 10:09
9F:→ sdiaa:投手投球有W肩线 XD 02/15 10:15
10F:推 VaROne:将Harper比作Lebron有点过头,单比打击技巧他还略输同年龄 02/15 10:43
11F:→ VaROne:的A-Rod,转外野考量还是在C、3B已经有人卡位取代不易,趁 02/15 10:45
12F:→ VaROne:现在年轻转到OF比较容易成功 02/15 10:46
Harper是高中最佳棒球员,Lebron是高中最佳篮球员应该是有点资格放在一起
很久以前我在看球探报告就怀疑他该不会是像日本媒体喜欢冠XX二世
那种捧超高的媒体宠儿,後来打出鸟蛋成绩的假假
直到他在秋季联盟打出不输3A的数字後我才不质疑球探报告
13F:推 pallos50:有 18 year 的 a-rod 成绩吗 查不到说 02/15 11:01
14F:推 Betances:BA对Anthony Rendon的评价还比他高,不过是在他受伤之前.. 02/15 12:00
15F:→ sdiaa:在AAA只有.311.359.588而已 ^^ 02/15 12:02
16F:推 meier0112:内野身手,一般听起来似乎单纯指防守 02/15 12:33
17F:推 Allenkkk:中职曾经有个捕手出手点也不高 不过他光靠阻杀就够了.. 02/15 13:22
18F:→ Allenkkk:有人就是天生神力侧传还不会受伤 02/15 13:23
19F:推 a129517496:96MPH..... 我觉得国民投手缺人他还可以加入轮值 02/15 20:07
20F:推 asd831129:推回来 02/15 21:53
21F:推 pathfinder:A-Rod 18岁那年从A-AA-AAA一路杀上去该年就上MLB 02/15 22:22
22F:推 patlo:天才打击捕手居然就这样跳过PUDGE... 02/15 22:44
故意的XD~~而且他也不算打击类型的捕手 ~~
如果硬要排他等级,我会把他往天才的楼上放(神级?)
23F:推 Belladonaa:"Baseball's LeBron" 不是BA说的, 是运动画刊 02/16 12:35
24F:→ Belladonaa:Callis 也曾经排过20年来最佳选秀新人, Harper不在前10 02/16 12:36
25F:→ Belladonaa:也说以两人离开高中时的评价来讲(Mauer 18, Harper 16) 02/16 12:40
26F:→ Belladonaa:"Mauer was the better prospect" 02/16 12:40
27F:→ Belladonaa:"Mauer was a better hitter, defender, athlete" 02/16 12:41
28F:→ Belladonaa:Harper 有优势的只有 Power 02/16 12:43
B大,可以发一篇稍微聊一下球探“本身”文章的评价吗
老实讲我实在不知道哪些球探是权威等级的,有时看看还挺乱的,不知信谁好
像Frankie Piliere 说他是百大新秀里面排第七的
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2011/02/09/baseballs-top-100-prospects-of-2011/
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