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标题[外电] Trade Liriano? It isn't just crazy talk
时间Fri Feb 11 20:19:10 2011
Even if the Twins don't deal him, the starter doesn't appear to be in team's
long-term plans.
With six pitchers vying for five spots in the Twins starting rotation, one
possible solution is trading Francisco Liriano. Speaking to team officials
recently, I've been surprised how open they are to this possibility, but the
logic makes sense.
Liriano, 27, can become a free agent after the 2012 season. Coming off a
resurgent year, he might never have a higher trade value.
One thing is clear: The Twins don't plan to sign him long term. Last weekend,
they avoided arbitration with a one-year, $4.3 million deal. From what I've
heard, their long-term talks went nowhere, with Liriano's camp hinting it
wanted a three-year, $39 million contract.
Even if that was just a starting point for negotiations -- and to be clear,
I'm not sure -- the Twins were wise to pass.
For one thing, Liriano is still an injury risk. He had arm injuries coming
through the minors, he had Tommy John elbow surgery in 2006 and he still has
a violent delivery.
For all the talk about how Liriano is learning to trust his fastball and
changeup, the lefthander relied heavily on his slider again last season.
According to FanGraphs.com, 38 percent of the pitches he threw as a rookie in
2006 were sliders. That number dipped to 27 percent during his abysmal 2009
season and returned to 34 percent last year.
Liriano might look like a blue-chip stock again, but rather than investing
big, the Twins seem content to maximize his current value. They can tap him
for about 65 starts over the next two seasons and collect two draft picks if
he leaves as a free agent. Or they can trade him.
Let's say the Yankees grow increasingly desperate after failing to sign Cliff
Lee and seeing Andy Pettitte retire. New York's top rotation candidates are
CC Sabathia, Phil Hughes, A.J. Burnett, Ivan Nova, Sergio Mitre, Bartolo
Colon and Freddy Garcia. That group could get eaten alive in the AL East.
By mid-March, if the other five starters -- Carl Pavano, Brian Duensing,
Scott Baker, Nick Blackburn and Kevin Slowey -- are healthy, and top prospect
Kyle Gibson looks like the real deal, the Twins might be weighing offers for
Liriano.
Other teams couldn't help being intrigued after Liriano went 14-10 with a
3.62 ERA last year with 201 strikeouts in 191 2/3 innings. Liriano ranked
second in the majors behind Roy Halladay in xFIP (expected fielding
independent pitching), a stat that measures just what the pitcher controls --
such as walks, strikeouts and home runs -- and to some analysts is a better
predictor of a pitcher's future success than ERA.
Liriano might seem like the closest thing the Twins have to a true No. 1
pitcher, but is he really that close? The lefthander was bewildered in 2009,
when he went 5-13 with a 5.80 ERA. Last year, he had everything working again
and still came up short in big situations.
After opening the season as the No. 5 starter, Liriano had several dominant
games, including June 11, when he struck out 11 Atlanta batters over eight
innings in a 2-1 victory. But in his final 20 starts, including the
postseason, he didn't finish the eighth inning once.
In his much-hyped showdown with Colorado's Ubaldo Jimenez, the Rockies batted
around in the first inning. The Twins won all five of Liriano's starts
against the White Sox, but his performances were more white-knuckle than
dominant.
Then, in Game 1 of the Division Series, Liriano had a 3-0 lead in the sixth
inning when the Yankees came back to tie it. Afterward, Liriano was his usual
polite self, but it was a huge letdown for the team.
Publicly, the Twins keep saying Liriano is a big part of their 2011 plans.
They'd love to see him prove the skeptics wrong and blossom into a 20-game
winner, even if this leaves fans screaming about their decision not to sign
him long term.
Ultimately, they'll have to weigh his potential performance against what he
could bring in a trade. Tampa Bay received a big haul last month when it
shipped former Twins righthander Matt Garza to the Cubs. Some said the Rays
received more than Kansas City did in sending Zack Greinke to Milwaukee.
Like Liriano, Greinke and Garza are both two years from free agency. The 2008
Johan Santana trade showed how limiting returns can be when top pitchers are
traded one year from free agency. And Santana was a two-time Cy Young Award
winner with impeccable mechanics and no history of arm injuries.
似乎是真的想把他送走,并没有把他当作未来计画的蓝图....
文章内分析理由可能为伤病问题,
http://tinyurl.com/4vr9f4e
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1F:推 Sabathia721:洋基要冲了吗 02/11 20:22
2F:推 Mooooose:万用包 : Nova+Adams+Who上场罗 02/11 20:38
3F:推 TrueTears:也只有一直看到2F再推万用包梗 02/11 20:43
4F:→ taker627:宅庆准备好了 02/11 20:52
5F:推 antineutrino:趁高价脱手? 02/11 20:52
6F:推 KOSHON:有没有老想用稻草换金条的八卦? 02/11 21:55
7F:→ OoyaoO:Betemit和Swisher及阿Ken表示: 02/11 21:59
8F:推 Betances:如果双城真的有意这时候卖他,代表他伤痛的问题可能比大家 02/11 22:51
9F:→ Betances:想像的要大,那为何其他GM要出到顶级的包裹呢? 02/11 22:52
10F:推 newtype28:我所看到的报导应该是今年谈extension双方并无共识 02/11 23:33
11F:→ newtype28:39MM/3y我个人也认为是开价太高 02/11 23:33
12F:推 Zamned:每个投手都会被质疑伤痛问题 这文章的论点不代表什麽吧 02/11 23:34
13F:→ newtype28:再加上不想等到最後一年才交易,毕竟Santana那个交易 02/11 23:34
14F:→ newtype28:殷监不远,所以才有可能选择现在的时机 02/11 23:35
15F:→ Zamned:嫌货才是买货人 就继续给他看下去吧 02/11 23:35
16F:推 Betances:他还有两年约,双城是有能力冲击季後赛的球队,没道理把轮 02/11 23:44
17F:→ Betances:值中最好的且是唯二去年OPS+破百的,在这时候卖出,如果真 02/11 23:45
18F:→ Betances:是延长合约问题,也是等到今年季中确定无缘季後赛比较合理 02/11 23:45
19F:推 cardfat:我也不认为双城会在分区冠军候补和外卡稍落後其他几只球队 02/11 23:55
20F:→ cardfat:的情况下交易Liriano尤其是给洋基除非他们能拿到等价的 02/11 23:56
21F:→ cardfat:战力例如cano 02/11 23:56
22F:推 Zamned:为什麽大家都把焦点放在NYY上?XD 02/12 00:01
23F:推 Mooooose:因为大家都知我们Yankees的SP季後补强很... 02/12 00:11
24F:推 chigo520:山寨版山大王 去年不是算不错了 02/12 00:31
25F:推 newtype28:关键就在於到底双城的FO有没有真的把今年当作冲击季後赛 02/12 00:35
26F:→ newtype28:的最後几个机会了~不然只要一般等级SP的话是多到满出来 02/12 00:36
27F:推 jason12308:山大王如果不是伤痛…他还是最威的 02/12 09:26