作者danerd (danerd)
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标题Re: [问题] 有条件式入学的学校
时间Tue Mar 8 15:57:36 2011
先说我以下言论只对事不对人. Pacific States University可以说是
货真价实的野鸡大学. 怎麽说呢? 这个已经是脱离讨论排名以外的话题了.
在美国,教育机构有两个主要的accreditation
1. Regional Accreditation (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_accreditation)
2. National Accreditation
所有不论有名无名的州立大学跟有名的私立大学都有第一个资格(Regional).
而很多以营利为主的学校跟Online University只有第二个资格(National).
NA的学校都会承认学分来自有RA的学校, 但RA的学校却并不承认全部有NA的学校的学分
PSU的Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools (ACICS)
是一个national accreditation.
以下这个网站可以帮助大家查查学校有没有正当的accreditation.
http://www.chea.org/search/default.asp
对於未来就职的冲击, 有很多公司(美国)并不招收没有RA的学校.
再次强调提出这些只是希望提供更透明的讯息, 以免有人後悔或觉得学校不适合
更多参考资讯:
http://www.back2college.com/library/accreditfaq.htm
还有一些学校连national accreditation都没有, 要注意
引述上面的联结:
"According to the Better Business Bureau, many fraudulent schools (better known as diploma mills) are profiting on the popularity of distance learning and are attracting students into their “degree programs”, often with the promises of a quick diploma. These types of institutions have been around for a long time, and use aggressive recruiting techniques (through telemarketing and direct mail), following-up on consumer queries through e-mail or their Web site. These schools heavily promote in print and
on the Internet, and often have sophisticated looking Web sites. Marketing representatives take advantage of students lack of knowledge about college accreditation, and use the terms“fully accredited” , “nationally accredited”, or “accredited worldwide” to assure the student of the program's legitimacy. The school's "accreditation" is usually by unrecognized or bogus agencies.
The Better Business Bureau offers several signs to look for to recognize a diploma mill:
- The school advertises degrees that can be earned in less time than at a traditional college. There are legitimate ways to earn college credit through prior learning and collegiate level testing, but the credit offered through these schools does not meet recognized standards set by the American Council on Education and National PONSI, (the National Program on Noncollegiate Sponsored Instruction) the two major college credit recommendation bodies accepted by major colleges and universities. Generally,
fully accredited schools will award up to 32 credits through examination and prior learning towards an undergraduate degree, but no reputable schools will award graduate degrees earned mainly through career portfolios.
- The school states that it is accredited, but lists organizations that (although impressive sounding) are not recognized by the U.S. Department of Education, or attempt to show official status by alleging state licensure or registration.
- You earn your "diploma" by tuition paid on a per-degree basis. Traditional colleges charge tuition by credit hours, or by course or semester. The school may offer admission only by securing your credit information, and does not require documentation of academic records.
- The school provides little or no communication with faculty, or the school’s Web site does not provide information on faculty or names faculty who have graduated from unaccredited schools.
- The college's name is similar to a well known university.
- The school provides addresses that are only post office box numbers or suites.
Your college education is one of the most important investments you'll ever make. If unsure of a school's status, check the Better Business Bureau or state attorney general's office to ensure the college is legitimate and if there have been any complaints."
※ 引述《joine (无间道)》之铭言:
: 我现在念的这间学校叫 Pacific States University 在Los Angeles
: 这学校对GPA成绩要求很低
: 托福听说是35分以上就可以进
: 所以基本上只要是你秀出你的财力证明就一定会申请上 XD
: quater制 所以一年有四次申请机会
: 我念这间学校的原因是因为学费超便宜(US$345 per Unit)而且就在我家附近
: 我在来美国之前在台湾跟大陆工作共四年 也做到管理职
: 所以对我来说 (我已经说了是"对我来说" 所以请不要鞭我)
: 我觉得只要知道自己要的是什麽 然後自己有心学习 念什麽学校都一样
: 我有几个同学他们来美国念书的原因
: 非常单纯的只是因为他们毕生的梦想就是要出国念书
: 即便家里经济状况不好 但是为了自己的梦想
: 办了贷款拿到申请就杀来美国打零工过生活
: <我反对打黑工 抓到就再见了 但是(小声说)..谁会抓你?>
: 野鸡不野鸡我不知道是怎样定义 学校排名10以外都叫野鸡吗?
: 但是很肯定的是 除了ptt留学板与MBA板等圈内人之外
: 你跟你阿公阿妈说你念 Pennsylvania 跟你说你念 Pacific是差不多的
: (好吧 或许我住乡下的阿妈真的太无知了~)
: 总之这是我念的学校官网连结 你看一下像不像野鸡大学?
: http://www.psuca.edu/
: 如果你觉得很像 那就当我没讲 XD
: 如果有兴趣或问题可以站内信跟我联络 我不是代办
: 不过学校说明会上说 如果我可以介绍别人进学校有US$100的介绍费可以领 耶~
: ===
: 小感想
: 生命是一连串不断累积的过程
: 一个前辈曾经跟我说
: 如果你台大毕业又念stanford
: 结果你出来以後却找不到好工作 随便一个鸟college毕业但是念IT的起薪就是你的三倍
: 到时候你会恨不得不要让别人知道你是台大+stanford
: 嘿 但是何必事事跟别人比较呢
: 不是每个人都天生聪明可以托福100分
: 也不是每个人天生家里有钱可以念长春藤
: 也不是每个人都有那点好运(+坚强实力)可以进名校
: 总之 自己尽了力就好
: ※ 引述《askMBA (PTT_MBA)》之铭言:
: : 我现在才开始申请2011 fall的MBA课程
: : 可是我的成绩并不好
: : 截至目前为止
: : Tofel只有63 gmat470
: : 我不一定要很好的学校
: : 只要不是野鸡大学就好...
: : 目前考虑申请的学校有
: : CSU-Chico,Kent State University,Golden Gate University
: : Florida State University,university of Utah
: : 但我知道有些学校没有办法给条件式入学
: : 请问,还有什麽比较推荐的学校或是语言学校吗?
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1F:推 joine:受教了!我诚恳建议要靠mba学历找工作的人不要来念野鸡大学 03/09 05:10
2F:推 joanna39:谢谢~多学了一些知识~~ 03/14 16:06