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来源:http://ppt.cc/9-K9 简单翻一下 But before we go into this let me throw it out there that I was fully aware of what I was doing, every mistake, every pick, every action and I've learned a lot from it. It's not everyday you get to play a championship tier team and learn a lot from it. Much different then playing the usual NA teams or sometimes EURO teams (even though we lose to euro teams a lot still) 在AMA开始前我必须声明知道我完全意识到我在干麻,包括每个错误,每个pick,每个动作 而我从这些东西学到很多。毕竟你不是每天都有机会跟冠军级的队伍对战并从中学习 只能说(AZF)跟大多数NA和部分的eu队伍差很多(虽然我们还是常输给eu队) I will make no excuses of why we lost but I am here to provide my point of view and to answer why did you do this dyrus? why did tsm do that? I at least owe this much to the fans who have supported us all year long, or bystanders/non-supporters alike. 我不会为输掉了比赛找理由,但我将提出一些我的看法并回答你们 我到底在干麻? TSM为什麽要这样打? 毕竟我欠长年支持我们的粉丝很多的交代 FAQ 1.How did you think you did? I lost my lane both games and built the wrong items the 2nd game. I made multiple mistakes such as missing flash over big wall top even though I knew I was getting ganked and lux was missing. IF I hit this flash it would of been a good play of baiting 3 people top to waste stuff on me, if it failed it was going to be a really really sad game, to get carried by my teammates. (etc. there's at least 20 mistakes I can name for myself but this is one of them that played a big part) 1.你觉得你打的怎样? 我两场比赛都输掉对线而且第二场还买错装,我犯了很多错误,像是在明知道会被gank 而且lux已经消失了的情况下还闪现失败。 如果我闪现成功的话,就可以引诱 3个人 到top并让他们空手而归,这样反而会变成美技。因为失败了所以比赛变的很让人哀伤 导致我需要靠队友carry我 (其实我大概至少有20个失误但这是最严重的。 TL:DR I could of done way better, and in the end Shy was the better player, I congratulate him and am proud to now be a fan of him. 给懒的看完的人: 我可以打的更好,而且Shy是比我更强的玩家,我恭喜他并以成为他的粉丝为荣 2.What was your thought process during picks and bans? We played with the idea to play karthus or kat every game. We based our comp around it and it was very strong the 2nd game. 2.你们选角时在干麻? 我们每场比赛都想以死歌或凯特林娜为核心。 我们以他为中心组成队伍而在第二场可以看出这组合相当强 A lot of you are probably think, Dyrus why counter pick yourself into Jayce? The truth is Darius is not countered by Jayce, same for irelia. It heavily depends on the jungle ganks/pressure and my ability to pull or his ability to kite and judge/skillshot/ use abilities. I should of went movement speed or health regen instead of flat 15 AD. I also would of been perfectly fine if I flashed that big wall but I choked and flashed on nothing and died to lux. I also didn't tell oddone to not use exhaust, if he kept the exhaust after jayce used flash we could of killed him with kill pressure but since he used exhaust he got chunked for no reason, and it really upsetted me because I knew it was going to be a long game. 你们很多人会想说,为啥Dyrus要选一个被好男人 counter的角色! 事实是,达瑞斯不是真的被杰西counter, 就像Irelia一样。 真正的对线情况要看JG表现(gank/给予压力),还有我(达瑞斯)的拉跟对方(杰西)风筝技术 我真应该要用跑速跟回血符文而不该用AD符文的。 如果我flash没失败的话就很完美,但我失败了而且还被lux杀了。 我也没跟阿万将军说不要用掉虚弱,如果他留着虚弱,等杰西用掉flash後 我们就可以杀了他,但因为虚弱被用掉了所以阿万就失去了压制力 这让我非常的难过,因为我知道比赛将会变的非常漫长 TL:DR I had a plan, it failed, Darius will lose to jayce 1v1 60% or more of the time, but darius plays a great part in the 2v2 and will win 2v2 over jayce 90% of the time if even. Since I was so far behind I decided to be ull tank and go sunfire-> GA the most effective items I could buy for the moment to be useful other then my E/ult. 给懒的看的人: 我有个计画但失败了。达瑞斯1v1的情况下有60%的机率会输杰西但如果是2V2的话达瑞斯很 威而且有九成的机率会赢杰西。但自从我落後的情况下我决定要成为坦克,所以买了火斗 跟复活甲 (这是我那时可以买的最有效益的装) 使我在 E跟大决以外还有点用 3.Our seriousness level. Some people are probably thinking (m5+ a lot of others) NA teams come to put on a show and not to win. This is not entirely false, the big flag thing, shirts, wristbands was just extra. it showed up at the last minute and we thought it would be cool. ※感谢版友指正 有些人大概认为我们NA队伍只是想来参加Show而不是想赢的。这样的说法其实有部分说对了 旗子啦、衣服啦、手环啦这些东西其实是多余的。我们在最後一刻决定带着他们出场, 因为我们觉得这样会很酷 When it came to planning we watched all of azubu frost's games that we could watch for around 3-4 hours and we knew what they did every game. 当我们在赛前规划时,我们看了所有的AZF的比赛,大概花了我们3-4小时 所以我们知道他们每场比赛都会作的事情。 One of the things was madlife wards for top always. 其中一个就是 madlife 会帮上路插眼 Our plan to kill him by sitting in the top brush was ruined the first game by the pause and then after pausing we briefly looked over to the other team to see if they looked at the minimap. 我们的计画是蹲在上路草丛里等他来杀,但在第一场时因为游戏暂停而毁灭了 在暂停後我们偷喵了一下对手并想知道他们有没有注意到小地图 They did so our plan was ruined, after much debate we tried it again but we got checked by jayce which would of happened either way but it was just a bummer that was instant first blood if we didnt get hit by jayce orb. 他们看了,所以我们的计画掰了,经过讨论我们决定在蹲一次草丛,但杰西用光球捡查了 草丛,如果当时我们没有被发现的话,将会马上拿到FB。 We didn't come out to put a show, we came out to win, I don't care what anyone says on these forums or their own personal blogs, we gave it our all during the last months. I can't say that for before since we played other games, didn't scrim 24/7. 我们不是来参加show的,我们是来赢的,我不在乎其他人在论坛或自己的blog怎麽说,我 们上个月全心全意在为S2 Finals练习。但在更之前的时候我们有有玩其他游戏,并没有 24小时都在scrim。 We have never put so much time into planning, we knew frost almost inside out, but in the end if I were to judge each player this is my conclusion. 我们从没花过那麽多时间在计画战术,我们都知道AZF非常杰出 但在最後如果要我评论其他选手 以下的是我的结论 Top Lane: Game 1 and 2 : Shy beat me overall basically in every category. I wish I had more chances to play against players like him since I can just get away with things against other players. 上路 Shy不管在那方面都打爆我了,我希望我有更多的机会可以跟像他一样的选手对决 这样我才能从中学习他们的技术 Mid Lane: Game 1 and 2: Reginald was more useful overall as a middle player. This is a given because he's Karthus and did his job very well. He made very few mistakes and I'm saying 1 or 2. Like buying two needless rods (from what I remember) by no means losing this series was his fault if anything it was the least. 中路 Regi整体来说还是玩中路比较强,我会这样说是因为他的死歌把工作做的很好,他失误 很少,要我来说的话大概只有一两个。像是买了两个没用的1600大棒棒 但至少输掉比赛绝不是他的错 Bot Lane: Game 1: Chaox and Xpecial They zoned bot with ezreal sona the entire game and were way ahead. Game 2: Was more of a team game other then these two. For everything else I can't say much cause I didn't pay much more attention other then to the usual mistakes like chaox getting caught out bot, or me messing up wards top and facechecking a brush I already knew the enemy jungler was in. 下路 第一场:Chaox跟Xpecial 整场游戏用ez+sona zone out对面并保持领先 第二场:与其说是下路对决,倒比较像是团战,我没什麽好说的因为我并没有花精神注意 除了常见的错误像是chaox在下路被抓,或是我明知到对面JG在草丛里还facecheck Jungle: The Jungles performance depends heavily on the team so basically who wins the game usually wins the jungle. Since we lost both games There's not much oddone can do other then to either pick different champions or minimizing mistakes. 将狗:JG的表现相当依赖团队其他人,所以赢得比赛的队伍通常Jungle也是赢的。 因为我们两场比赛都输了,所以阿万其实没什麽可以做的,除了换个英雄或是尽量别犯错 TL:DR if we won oddone would of won the jungle conclusion, if we lost then he lost the jungle. 给懒的看的人: 如果我们赢了那阿万大概也赢得Jungle,如果我们输了他Jungle也会输 In the end opinion: We win as a team, lose as a team. If we were to blame individuals I fully recognize that I was indeed the heaviest member of the team. 最後的意见:我们是团队,赢的时候共享荣耀,输的时候一起承担。如果真的要抓个战犯 那就是我了。 I'm sorry I've let you all down and I will learn Irelia for season 3 and much more. I will not stick to 20 different champions but only 3-4 that are the strongest in today's meta. 我很抱歉让你们失望,而我将会学着使用Irelia及其他英雄以在S3使用。 我不会练20个新的不同的英雄,而是专注於3-4个当下meta最强的角色。 Look forward to a very strong season 3 from me, my motivation and excitement has been reborn through playing such great opponents. I wish this the best to azubu frost so I can say we lost to the 1st place team, and so we can look for our revenge to the azubu organization frost and blaze alike in the future. 我很期待有个非常强大的S3,因为有这些强大的对手,使我的动机跟激情重新燃起 我祝azf能有很好的表现,这样我就可以说我们是输给了冠军队伍,而我们也将在未来对 AZUBU集团(frost 跟 blaze)进行复仇。 I will be cheering azubu frost tomorrow in the audience to come find me if you wish to have a autograph/picture/hugs. 我明天将会在观众区帮AZF加油,所以如果你们想要签名/拍照/拥抱就来找我吧。 -- "How many demons have you slain, stranger?" Sar asked, lowering his massive sword. "One so far," Nellin replied, and grinned. "But it was a really, really big one." -- Demon Slayer, the Void Hero --



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1F:推 SASHIKEME :睡神QAQ (看看NA的jiji还在自我感觉良好 10/06 13:02
2F:推 ssd123698745:大推睡神的风度 10/06 13:02
3F:推 yachien04 :比CLG的老查跟鸡鸡好多了 10/06 13:02
4F:推 w8a82k75566 :第二场的错误就是没有持续快推 10/06 13:02
5F:推 nerv3890 :大推 相比jiji之类Chaox的之类的 这种态度令人激赏 10/06 13:02
6F:→ yachien04 :他们运气好 在紫方无法发挥 正常打会赢 10/06 13:02
7F:推 MikeGarcia :旗子手环那段可能是说这个想法在在最後一刻才出现 10/06 13:03
8F:→ smallcoll :我不觉得能和jiji比,dyrus是完全被打爆 10/06 13:03
9F:→ MikeGarcia :而且应该会很酷 猜的 10/06 13:03
10F:推 kaiDX :推睡神 10/06 13:03
11F:推 minche :推风度 另外Chaox也没有怎样啊他也只是说待会要开趴 10/06 13:04
12F:推 robinroy2003:推Dyrus 10/06 13:04
13F:→ smallcoll :jiji可是作的还算不错...... 10/06 13:04
14F:推 bewritten :风度啊你各位 10/06 13:04
15F:→ minche :在阿万的底下他有说自己sucks... 不然是要哭哭吗= = 10/06 13:04
16F:→ smallcoll :clg会输又不是因为jiji被打爆,拿来比这个,科科 10/06 13:04
17F:推 gn02118620 :睡神这样的说法才有pro的味道 10/06 13:05
18F:推 spf6127 :推睡神 10/06 13:05
19F:→ gn02118620 :clg喔..这次jiji打不错啦...但jiji就跟球Z尬兽一样 10/06 13:05
20F:推 nerv3890 :我推错 是Chauster not Chaox...qq 10/06 13:06
21F:推 kaneggyy :当初输给Azubu Blaze的时候睡神不是就说燃起热情了 10/06 13:06
22F:→ wblij :结果选达瑞斯目的在 bait 杰西 只是失败了 10/06 13:06
23F:推 r51303 :大推睡神风度 不过依靠JG 这个...恩@@60% 1v1 loss.. 10/06 13:06
24F:→ smallcoll :还有你看吧dyrus果然说不是真的被counter 10/06 13:06
25F:→ kaneggyy :怎麽现在又燃起一次...XD 10/06 13:06
26F:→ smallcoll :他guide都乱写嘛 XDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/06 13:06
27F:推 iljapan61 :Dyrus这篇文太猛了QAQ 10/06 13:07
28F:推 lisanna20 :国旗那段应该是说"他们并不是准备来秀的,而是临时起 10/06 13:07
29F:→ r51303 :代表1v1 只有40%赢的机会...恩...只能说战术失败了 10/06 13:07
30F:→ lisanna20 :意觉得这很酷所以拿上台 10/06 13:07
31F:推 Torscana :推Dyrus看事情的角度与高度 10/06 13:07
32F:→ lisanna20 :这并非他们事先就预定做的事情 总之就是临时起意的 10/06 13:08
重心推了一次,觉得这样比较顺一点
33F:推 Istari :CHAUSTER:我们会输是因为我们都在紫方 10/06 13:08
34F:→ aimgel :第二场没持续加压实在太可惜,不然应该会赢 10/06 13:09
35F:→ gn02118620 :反正他押赢了人们就说睡神藏招guide乱血 押输就说dy 10/06 13:11
36F:→ gn02118620 :rus乱pick. 10/06 13:11
37F:推 potionx :照这说法40%,然後加上选手强弱就... 10/06 13:12
38F:→ spring28892 :可是dyrus的olaf guide真的乱写阿 XDDDD 10/06 13:12
39F:推 kiyoe :ALEX: ... 10/06 13:12
40F:推 teletubby :1那里应该是以成为他的粉丝为荣吧 10/06 13:12
少看了一个now @@
41F:→ smallcoll :gn02118620是来乱的吗 LOL 10/06 13:12
42F:→ smallcoll :dyrus自己先说过西米选darius打jayce是很不智的 10/06 13:13
43F:→ smallcoll :然後又选来打,当然被大家质疑啊 10/06 13:13
44F:→ smallcoll :你以为乡民都随便炮啊 LOLLOLOL 10/06 13:13
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45F:推 wblij :不过 SV 太爱农 这种输线 bait 法无法用 10/06 13:14
46F:推 Acrono :偶像Dyrus!!!推 10/06 13:14
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47F:推 jazye :DYRUS赞 10/06 13:15
48F:推 ahinetn123 :我们输只是iG运气好 10/06 13:17
49F:推 chicken035 :赞 10/06 13:17
50F:推 ZkNight :下面AMA也蛮好笑的 无聊可以看看 10/06 13:20
51F:推 nerv2015 :推翻译~睡神不找借口也推 10/06 13:24
52F:推 kullan :睡神的检讨真的狠中肯 10/06 13:26
53F:推 ourear :推睡神~~TSM就只喜欢他~~ 10/06 13:28
54F:推 tuiry :一直很喜欢睡神,从一开始昏昏欲睡到红袍加身都很棒 10/06 13:28
55F:推 no321 :推睡神的检讨文 某支CLG队伍真的该检讨一下了 10/06 13:28
56F:→ tuiry :即使综艺化睡神也不会像HSGG那种讨人厌,反而很可爱XD 10/06 13:29
57F:→ ahinetn123 :但是在家傻等炮车的Lulu很可爱阿 虽然是老查驾驶>_< 10/06 13:30
58F:推 misaki030 :推 10/06 13:31
59F:推 chincarol :推~~~~ 10/06 13:35
60F:推 sakon :睡神风度另人敬佩啊 10/06 13:39
61F:推 bbsjr :Regi那段是说他第二场买了两个1600魔棒,不是时光 10/06 13:39
62F:→ sakon :令人* 10/06 13:39
63F:推 lisanna20 :粉丝在s2赛前画给睡神的 http://imgur.com/a/gxBeH 10/06 13:40
64F:→ bbsjr :我看比赛时看到整个就感觉祸不单行 10/06 13:40
Thx
65F:推 eric52015516:偶像输了Q_Q 10/06 13:41
66F:推 eist :推风度 难怪这麽多人喜欢<3 10/06 13:47
67F:→ minoru04 :脚脚 10/06 13:49
68F:推 yachien04 :DL说他没预测到TPA赢 有人问他那你有预测到自己输吗 10/06 13:51
69F:→ yachien04 :他也满有风度的回有 而且TSM比他们更好 10/06 13:52
70F:推 imymeyou :推风度!! DYRUS是我学习的TOP对象!! 加油 10/06 13:52
71F:推 FrienDx :大推Dyrus和OddOne ! 10/06 13:55
72F:推 tuanj :Dyrus态度真的很不错 10/06 13:57
73F:推 KISSFORMISS :睡神加油!!!!!!! 10/06 14:01
74F:推 DKGodman :睡神会承认自己是战犯 其他又有多少选手会这样做 10/06 14:05
75F:推 K60258 :连一般身边的人都拉不下脸承认战犯了 10/06 14:10
76F:推 apley :这才是真的检讨文 10/06 14:10
77F:推 Murasaki0110:nice 10/06 14:11
78F:推 KuRed :推 加油吧 10/06 14:20
79F:推 thedeathhero:阿万跟睡神都承认得太乾脆了 身为粉粉我真的好想哭.. 10/06 14:23
80F:推 iamnodoubt :加油 10/06 14:24
81F:推 kaichuan :态度极优! 10/06 14:26
82F:推 shryuhuai :睡神加入对TSM帮助很大,如果现在还是TRM的话...... 10/06 14:30
83F:→ evildark :TRM是战术层面无法配合 TRM离开的时候比胖虎阿万稳 10/06 14:33
84F:推 sawaman :风度GOOD 10/06 14:34
85F:推 tp950016 :睡神和阿万加油!!!! 10/06 14:42
86F:嘘 thinkDie :不管 对方P1就选了Jayce 你p5选一个Darius 10/06 14:45
87F:→ thinkDie :Darius前期没表现 你後期出一堆坦装不过是弥补之前 10/06 14:46
88F:→ thinkDie :的错 10/06 14:46
89F:→ violing613 :睡神意思是明知被counter也为了队形硬上吧 10/06 14:49
90F:推 jackals60 :thinkdie让我感觉是3000+ 10/06 14:55
91F:→ jackals60 :赢了就是神表现神技术,输了就是唯一,错。 ㄎㄎ 10/06 14:56
92F:推 poiuy66887 :Darius QQ我不想看S2了 10/06 14:57
93F:推 bbsjr :Dyrus有一个回应解释master champions的意思 10/06 15:07
94F:→ bbsjr :Froggen's Anivia 10/06 15:07
95F:推 isaac534643 :推睡神风度 10/06 15:10
96F:推 kimo6414 :比赛被对方打爆 气度上打爆AZF 10/06 15:17
97F:→ wulonglue :s3 还要多久 ... 10/06 15:19
98F:推 choosin :推推 Dyrus加油~~ 10/06 15:21
99F:推 rock9527 :推风度 10/06 15:30
100F:推 oak2002 :翻译怪怪的 他不是说他欠粉丝很多 他是说他欠一个交 10/06 15:38
101F:→ oak2002 :代 10/06 15:38
102F:推 solo0724 :S2结束 换IEM巡回赛@@? 10/06 15:43
103F:推 vinsanity25 :推 10/06 15:46
104F:→ spring28892 :to oak2002 那句话我没讲完 因为我觉得应该看的懂 10/06 15:57
105F:推 marcoyao :睡神再接再厉 10/06 16:06
106F:推 cat0405 :睡神 QAQ 10/06 16:27
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107F:推 satan317 :推 10/06 16:36
108F:推 divinity47 :泪推Dyrus,TSM我爱你们 10/06 17:18
109F:嘘 keroro01 :假种子 根本就该多让一个位给亚洲或欧洲 10/06 17:20
110F:推 reich719 :开赛前 你是这麽想的吗? Keror大? XDDDDDDD 10/06 17:28
111F:嘘 theonegi :嘘keror 假不假也不是让你来这边讲的zzzzzzzz 10/06 18:02
112F:→ theonegi :人家赛後态度很好 展望第三季 你在这边不知所云什麽? 10/06 18:03
113F:推 vince1220 :我好爱Dyrus 说实在的看完这篇快哭了 眼睛红红 10/06 19:40
114F:→ vince1220 :实在不想承认Dyrus的技巧不如他们 10/06 19:41
115F:推 teddygoodgoo:虽然他打不好,但是他态度真的一流 10/06 20:01
116F:推 hasroten :睡神攻略又诈骗了XD 10/07 11:39







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