作者SuperLuffy (.人.)
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标题Re: [情报] Salce 问答集 part 1
时间Thu Dec 8 02:53:22 2011
只翻译了一些跟游戏比较有关的问题
有错请指正 感谢
Best Mid Champs to gain ELO and why?
最好提高你elo的中路英雄
Some of the best champs to win mid with at the moment to gain elo would
probably have to be Sion, Xerath, Brand,Ryze , and Kassadin. Also probably
Karthus as well. All of these champs have the potential to destroy mid lane
and carry the advantage elsewhere into strong ganks, and strong team fights.
Also as for Sion + Kass who lack in team fights they can gank very
effectively.
赛恩 齐勒斯 布兰德 雷兹 卡萨丁 喔或许死歌也是好选择
因为他们压线容易压赢 容易gank别路 会战强
虽然赛恩跟卡萨丁会战比较没这麽厉害 但是gank超牛
What are your opinions on Rumble and Orianna?
你认为球女跟rumble怎麽样
Orianna is lacking i used to play her or attempt after her nerfs. I had some
great games and was confident that i could use her competitively but now my
opinion has changed. I learned one bad positioning on q, can really make or
break a fight too much. What made her strong was being able to poke and
insta-gib squishy champs while not being close enough to die... Which has now
changed and poking in most cases puts her at risk of getting caught. I feel
like she is strong
but she is definitely lacking and I would feel more confident in other ap
champions to do the job. I feel like I would much rather pick Xerath at this
point then Oriana.
以前的球女poke强而且有机会秒杀软皮角
现在poke往往带来很大的危险(nerf Q的距离) 虽然他还是很强
但我宁愿选齐勒斯(距离更远 更安全)
As for Rumble i think he is very good. He is an incredibly strong top lane
and his ult can work wonders in initiating team fights. As for viability I'm
still not too sure about Rumble. I have not seen any good competitive Rumble
players really make a difference to be noteworthy, so my opinion on Rumble is
FUN but unsure on viability. He also is a great pub stomper because too many
people underestimate his danger zone and damage.
我觉得Rumble超棒 上路压线强 大绝又好开战
可是我没看过任何值得我注意的Rumble
so...总结来说Rumble很有趣 但我不确定他的可行性
(ps 注意他danger zone的伤害)
What's your thoughts on Kennen? Also could you include your suggested core
build, runes and masteries. I really enjoy him but I have a hard time setting
him up (currently I use Revolver, Deathcap and Rylais)
My thoughts on Kennen is that he is a very very strong laner and has about
2-3 things that can actually beat him. He is incredibly ultimate dependent
and he is really hard to gank, has lane killing potential, and he has fun
mechanics. As for runes I would use what I always use magic pen reds, energy
regen per level yellows, flat magic resistance blue, and 2 hp quints / 1
magic pen quint. Masteries seem standard for 95% of ap's which is 21-0-9.
Item build often boots>will>mercs/sorc>deathcap unless they have too much
knockback then an hourglass is needed first. Then finish dcap / hourglass.
Then a voidstaff if they have magic resistance. Then you can build a rylais,
abyssal, or even a lichbane.
凯南Rune:红魔穿 黄回覆能量成长 蓝固定魔防 两颗紫HP和一颗紫魔穿
天赋:21/0/9 跟大部分AP一样
装备:鞋子>吸血书>魔防鞋或魔穿鞋>帽子(沙漏) 如果他们伤害够高的话要先出沙漏
>沙漏(帽子)>如果对面有魔防出魔穿杖>冰杖>深渊权杖>超有钱>巫妖之祸!!
Why don't people play vlad?
为什麽大家都不玩吸血鬼
People still think Vlad is really bad but I actually think he is a lot better
with new masteries. Maybe people will learn eventually that he is a bit
better than people think. His lane sustain is great and an early death cap
with masteries, runes, and passive make him very scary about 20 minutes in
the game if you can manage to get that.
大家觉得吸血鬼SUCK 但其实我认为在新天赋下吸血鬼变强不少
赖线能力强 早早出帽子搭配天赋 符文 被动让他在20MIN左右的时候非常强势
Who are the top 3 AP mid laners you have ever had to lane against?
列出你遇过前三名的AP玩家
Regi and sometimes Jiji is all I can recall to be honest I just thought for a
long time and can't recall anyone else to list.
Reginaid 以及状况好的bigfatjiji 我想了很久再也想不到其他人了
AP Carry masteries? Why do some people still go utility? why do some go
21-9-0 or 21-0-9? And what do you prefer?
AP Carry的天赋?21/9/0还是21/0/9?
Seems standard that 21-9-0 for non-mana champs and 21-0-9 for mana champs. So
much AP scaling and more useful masteries for AP carries than utility.
Utility is definitely the support tree and there aren't enough things in
utility to want me to sacrifice the AP bonuses for. Although there are
exceptions not all AP champions are 21-0-9 one exception being Ryze and maybe
others mastery fizz differently I actually am not too sure, but there are
some exceptions.
21/9/0给非魔力角 21/0/9给魔力角
不过总是有些例外 像是Ryze或Fizz
If you had to start over, not knowing ANYONE in the league, haven't played a
single game of ranked, but you still had the knowledge of the game: How would
you go about reaching the top?
如果你不认识任何人而且从没玩过rank game 但你仍然拥有你对游戏的知识和技术
你会如何打上top
Take solo lane top or mid, crush it and take my advantage of being very
strong and farmed into team fights and lanes.
单中或单上 压爆你对线的 不停的farm
win the lane ,win the game!
When did you realize you had improved your game play and in what area did you
improve the most in?
你从哪些地方进步了
I realized that I had improved my game play when I started to play different
roles and learn some of the champions capabilities and also a very big one is
smart casting. Adapting to smart casting was a big improvement.
智慧施法超棒
What do you think is the hardest AP to counter if you were to play against
them? + Reasons
对到哪些AP角你会超干
Probably Kassadin and Zilean for me. Most ap champs have a difficult time
with them in lane. Zilean is hard to kill with his ult and speed. Then
Kassadin has rift walk, passive, and hits hard even with a build like tear /
catalyst and only sorc treads.
卡萨丁或时钟老 大部分AP角对到他们压线都不有利
时钟老超难杀又会加速减速
卡萨丁大绝 被动都超讨厌 更可怕的是即使只出赖线装(眼泪或催化神石)+魔穿鞋
输出还是很痛
Also do you think Malphite is/will ever be worth a damn in competitive play?
你认为Malphite石头人怎麽样
He could be used against AD heavy teams but that seems like the only place he
will fit.
对抗高AD输出队伍不错 也只能对抗高AD输出队伍
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如果将字母 A 到 Z 分别编上 1 到 26 的分数,(A=1,B=2...,Z=26)
你的知识(
KNOWLEDGE)得到
96 分(11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5=96)
你的努力(
HARDWORK)也只得到
98 分(8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11=98)
但是如果你(
OGC OGC OGC OGC) OGC4次的话 就可以得到
100分呢 XD
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13F:推 a2364983 :Fnatic的中路都给xpk比较多 12/08 03:59
14F:推 ben3683 :EG大比赛打不太进去 跟Fnatic交手机会少 12/08 04:19
15F:→ ben3683 :打进四强的通常都是区域赛而不是IEM那种的 12/08 04:19
16F:推 kennyhen :EG ADC西米跟DYRUS都只会玩几只.他们都是强上路. 12/08 04:24
17F:→ kennyhen :上次那个板凳就别提了... 12/08 04:25
18F:→ kennyhen :而且但丁有时侯会脑冲血的开战... 12/08 04:25
19F:推 imsohappy :推帅ㄍsalce 12/08 04:49
20F:→ rencekingss :从dreamhack第一次看到他到现在 12/08 05:15
21F:→ rencekingss :我一直觉得他长得超像汤镇业的阿XD 12/08 05:15
22F:→ rencekingss :就是咖哩辣椒里面的关公XDDDDDD 12/08 05:15
23F:推 hotsizzle :只能推了 12/08 05:33
24F:推 imsohappy :再推一次帅哥Salce 12/08 06:32
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27F:推 Shxt :他非常喜欢胖虎打法,认为够侵略。 12/08 09:14
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32F:→ a2364983 :然後之前JIJI的问答是Salce太保守 Regi太侵略 xD 12/08 10:50
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