There are lines like that where if you don't perform it all-in, they're not going to work, right? 有些歌词就是这样,如果你不把身心全投入,就达不到效果 Yeah. I mean, for a record producer he was just a dream come true. He could go to that point that was, like, beyond -- it's just crazy how hard he could go with such precision. And even when he sings softly, the precision [was there]. So yeah, he was a super special guy. 是啊,我想对制作人来说,他就是让你美梦成真的人,他完完全全的投入所有 而最厉害的是,在那样强烈的表达下,他仍可以很精准的演绎,而当他唱抒情慢歌时 仍有同样的精准度,非常特别的人 What was so special about Chester's voice? How was it distinct from others you've worked with? Chester的歌声有什麽特别的？和其他人有什麽差别 Not to take anything away from the guys or anything, but they might have been looking for a different kind of singer. Then they found this guy from Arizona, and he could go into the rock world in such a way that maybe wasn't exactly their cup of tea. I think that they wanted to be more like Incubus or something like that, but once Chester got his voice down on tape it was so undeniable, I was just like, "You guys, people are going to freak out over this. This guy, there's nothing like this." It was pretty obvious. I don't think I had to sell them very hard on it, and Chester loved to sing like that. 我不是要贬低其他人,但我想他们本来是想要找别种歌手,却找到了从亚利山纳州来的 这个人,而他对於摇滚世界的演绎,可能跟其他人本来期望的不同,我觉得他们本来想要 像Incubas这样风格的歌手,但当Chester把他的歌声放了进来,一切都太完美了 我只对他们说,你知道所有人都会被吓呆的,我想我并不用太努力说服他们,毕竟Chester 一直都爱这样唱歌 What did you think about Hybrid Theory when it was finished? 当完成Hybrid Theory时,你当时的想法是 For me, the way my whole career and my little system works is I just make sure that I tick every box. I need to know that the songs are right from a lyrical point of view, that they're honest, that they're not cheesy, that it's recorded properly, it sounds good, it fits into a place where it can be marketed. But with this thing, it had all that stuff, but it had other things too. Honestly, I thought it was really good, I thought it was great work, but I didn't know it was going to be that big. I worked on Pearl Jam's [debut album] Ten, and I didn't know that that was going to be that big. I just kind of try to do my best work, and when you work super hard long hours and you've got to keep your head on a swivel, you just kind of work, work, work, work, work and then drop at the finish line. 对我来说,,我整个职业生涯都有一定的工作模式,那就是确定我尝试了所有东西 我要确定歌词和歌曲是符合的,还有要是真诚而不俗气,要妥善的录音,听起来要好 而且可以找到它的卖点,而这张专辑包含了所有,我当时真的认为这张专辑很棒 但我从来不知道他会如此畅销,我只是尽我所能做到最好,你就是要不断的工作工作 到最後自然会抵达终点 After all that success, had things changed by the time you guys started working on the second album? 如此成功的专辑後,录制第二张专辑有什麽不同吗 They were rock stars at that point -- how are they going to follow that up? And really, I'm not sure they wanted to use me on their second record; I'm not really sure why, but Chester and Tom Whalley, who was at the time CEO of Warner Bros., they really wanted me to do it. And I was very thankful to Chester for that. And the guys, they went along with it. They might have been talking to some other people, but that's their thing. When we went in and did Meteora, it was such a fun, easy record to make, because Tom Whalley was super supportive; he didn't have one negative comment to make the whole time, he was just a positive energy around the band, and Chester and Mike just continued to be amazing. 他们当时已经成了摇滚明星了,他们当时要怎麽再创佳绩？我其实不确定他们仍想找我 当第二张专辑的制作人,但Chester还有华纳当时的CEO他们想要我继续制作,我很感谢 Chester仍是选择我,其他团员也顺应答应让我制作专辑,虽然他们当时有和其他人洽谈 而美特拉是张很容易制作而且有趣的专辑,华纳的CEO当时非常支持,都没有下过任何负面 评论,而Chester和Mike仍旧很杰出 Was anything different about that project or recording process? 录音过程中有什麽不一样的吗？ It was basically the same, I would say, but I think the understanding and the sphere of this guy that's an outsider -- you know, "I'm outside the group" -- there was a trust element that was there on Meteora that maybe wasn't quite there [before]; at times it was a bit contentious during the Hybrid Theory sessions. But on the Meteora sessions, not so much, because if I asked them to do stuff that was outside of their comfort zone, they were fine with going there and trying to find those special moments. And they did it again on that one too. 基本上是一样的,不过多了更多彼此的理解和信任的元素,之前我比较像是外人 在Hybrid Theory录制过程我们有过一些争执,但在美特拉基本上就少多了 当我要求他们离开舒适圈,他们便会去找其他特别的东西 What memory now sticks out to you the most about what Chester was like? 关於Chester你印象最深的是？ The thing that is so disturbing about this -- and granted, I haven't been in touch with him in a long time -- he was a guy who maybe had a few problems, but he would kind of talk about them. "Oh, this and that. My wife is doing this. Oh, I've got to go do this." Just normal stuff that we all do. And he liked to laugh, he had an amazing sense of humor. On Meteora, he set up this little ProTools rig out in the lounge and he would write these little funny punk rock songs and record them and bring them in and play them for us. But I mean, he just was a funny guy, it was awesome. It's just, boy, such a sad, sad thing. 我很长一段时间没跟他联络过了,他是有一些问题的人,但是他总会谈起这些问题 像是我老婆又这样那样,我要这样那样,就像我们一般人会说的事情,他很爱笑 而且很有幽默感,在美特拉时期,他会在休息是写一些搞笑的庞克摇滚歌曲 然後录起来带来播给我们听,他就是一个很风趣的人,发生的一切太令人感伤了 What do you see as his legacy? 你怎麽看待他遗留下来的东西 His body of work. I think that they've touched so many people around the globe, they've maintained this kind of... They didn't go all the way there and sell out. They kept their brand really simple and honest, and I think that it's really cool that all these different cultures, all these people around the world, know who Linkin Park is and they can sing a lot of their songs, even though they don't speak English. I think that's such a cool thing. 他的创作,他们触动了世界上很多的人,他们最终没有出卖自己,他们一直将LP保有 简单和诚实,而世界各种不同文化,不同地方的人都听过Linkin Park,而且会唱他们的 歌曲,即使他们一点都不懂英文,我认爲这是最棒的一件事情 I've maybe had four or five times in the studio that I got goose bumps, literally like shivers, and one of them was with Chester, for sure. And oddly enough, one of them is Chris Cornell, when I recorded Chris on the Temple of the Dog record. 我在录音室大概只有四次和五次起了鸡皮疙瘩,其中一个人就是Chester,而奇怪的是 另一个人是我制作Temple of the Dog乐团时的Chris Cornell --

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