作者Paraguay (巴拉圭)
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标题[外电] David Stern eyes flopping flap
时间Tue May 15 12:22:16 2012
※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1Fi6ol3_ ]
作者: sawkuanwoo (苏冠宇) 看板: NBA
标题: [外絮] David Stern eyes flopping flap
时间: Mon May 14 10:23:27 2012
(Flopping is) not a legitimate play in my judgment. I recognize if there's
contact (you) move a little bit, but some of this is acting. We should give out
Oscars rather than MVP trophies.
-- David Stern, NBA commissioner
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It's award season in the NBA but commissioner David Stern is concerned his
league may be veering too close to handing out Oscars.
During Sunday's Eastern Conference semifinal opener between the Miami Heat
and Indiana Pacers, Stern was asked what he thought about comments made by
Pacers coach Frank Vogel in regards to what Vogel considered the Heat's
tendency to flop.
"(Vogel) didn't have a beef; he was just manipulating the refereeing or
trying to," Stern said. "I would have fined him much more than our office did."
While Stern chastised Vogel for on Thursday calling the Heat "the biggest
flopping team in the NBA," he did intimate that he sees merit in the sentiment.
"I think it's time to look at (flopping) in a more serious way," Stern
said,
"because it's only designed to fool the referee. It's not a legitimate
play in my judgment. I recognize if there's contact (you) move a little bit,
but some of this is acting. We should give out Oscars rather than MVP
trophies."
Stern：“我觉得现在我们需要更严肃地看待假摔这个问题，因为假摔在比赛当中欺骗了裁
判，在我看来这不是一种合乎规范的打球方式。如果一位球员假摔的很逼真，那麽我们应该
给他颁发奥斯卡奖，而不是MVP奖杯。”
Vogel is not the only person in the playoffs to call out an opponent for
embellishing contact.
On Friday, Memphis Grizzlies forward Zach Randolph called his team's first
round opponents -- the Los Angeles Clippers -- the league's biggest floppers
"by far," while being interviewed on ESPN Radio's "The Doug Gottlieb Show."
Randolph went so far as to single out Clippers stars Chris Paul and Blake
Griffin.
"It starts with Chris Paul, because Blake didn't really used to flop like
that, you know, last year," Randolph said. "Reggie (Evans) flops, Reggie always
flops. I think it started when Chris got (to the Clippers)."
While Stern didn't call out any specific teams, he did say he has
personally attempted to curb the flopping in the past.
"Some years ago I told the competition committee that we were going to
start fining people for flopping, and then suspending. And I think they almost
threw me out of the room (saying), 'No, let it be.' "
Floppers may not receive any punishment but those that point the finger do,
as Vogel had to enter his team's second-round series with the Heat $15,000
lighter.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7926130/
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※ 编辑: sawkuanwoo 来自: 140.112.7.214 (05/14 10:24)
5F：推 teaplus :XDDDDD 05/14 10:24
6F：推 DASHOCK :我觉得零容忍也很令人诟病..... 05/14 10:25
7F：→ hurricano :扯到MVP是在暗指某人?? 05/14 10:25
8F：推 wwywwy :可是你刚颁了MVP奖给他了... 05/14 10:25
9F：推 wii128 :屎藤的意思是三小 05/14 10:25
10F：→ wurenben :他讲够白了,刚拿MVP那位 05/14 10:26
11F：推 howsiao :很明显是在说某个刚拿MVP的演员 05/14 10:26
12F：推 qa77330 :看来今年就是热火了 05/14 10:27
13F：推 oicecnir :所以咧..假摔要给T了吗 05/14 10:27
14F：推 lesnaree2 :NBA小动作已经这麽久了 是要怎麽管？ 05/14 10:27
15F：嘘 zzzaaaqqq111:在表他的乾儿子 果然是假摔 05/14 10:27
16F：推 nagisanoff :零容忍根本就是对小咖的零容忍 大咖怎麽叫常常没事 05/14 10:27
17F：推 pradaad :他说要颁影帝给MVP而不是给他拿MVP 05/14 10:27
18F：推 otsuka123 :LBJ假摔王 05/14 10:28
19F：→ sawkuanwoo :如果总决赛热火对快艇,裁判应该会很累,到底该不该判 05/14 10:28
20F：推 Proakis :NBA最具代表性的奖杯 史疼当然以这个为例子阿 05/14 10:28
21F：→ Proakis :酸酸不知道再高潮啥 05/14 10:28
22F：推 kilu :不然要说我们不应该搬给他得分王? 05/14 10:30
23F：推 lanver1220 :在这个时间点 说话,让人有无限遐想 05/14 10:30
24F：推 romo :mvp 05/14 10:30
25F：→ GigiBuffon :像足球一样好了 假摔被发现就赏他一张黄..不对 一个T 05/14 10:30
27F：→ ksk0516 :失宠了 05/14 10:32
28F：推 gazelle74 :MVP都已经颁了 05/14 10:33
29F：推 d88647511 :被队板水桶的午午出来罗 05/14 10:34
30F：→ Alipapa :果然是亲雷派 热火保重... 05/14 10:34
31F：→ truth76901 :看热火的比赛真的蛮有趣的 满场倒XDDDDDDDD 05/14 10:34
32F：→ d88647511 :看来在解桶前 n大会不断的分享影片和外电 05/14 10:35
33F：推 Marxing :LBJ- 史腾认证MVP影帝 05/14 10:35
34F：推 gazelle74 :恭喜获得影帝&MVP 双冠王 05/14 10:35
35F：嘘 fanrei :搞什麽，讲这种话太明显了，好歹尊重一下新科MVP 05/14 10:35
36F：→ fanrei :真的想把NBA搞烂吗 05/14 10:36
37F：推 WuZun :先管管黑哨跟零容忍吧 05/14 10:36
38F：推 mrchica :火雷裁判比较累吧 05/14 10:36
39F：推 wii128 :现在流行的是 黑哨 05/14 10:37
40F：→ Alipapa :雷也有一个JAMES也是超级假摔王 但雷有爱所以OK 05/14 10:37
41F：→ spy9527 :假摔界的霸主?那是什麽? 05/14 10:37
42F：推 dennyhgtfrd :那个连结感觉真的撞过去也不好吧... 不如先下手 05/14 10:37
43F：推 dwk :那完了，史腾最爱捧的球星或球队一堆假摔 05/14 10:38
45F：推 Hsu1025 :不演拿不到冠军阿 05/14 10:39
46F：推 zxcv3147 :雷霆神之假摔? 05/14 10:40
47F：推 skyoo00 :史上最会 走步&假摔 MVP 05/14 10:41
48F：推 dwk :反正最後还不是受宠的、政治正确的拿冠军 05/14 10:41
49F：推 offish :看来大儿子失宠了，冠军戒会落在二儿子雷帝手上 05/14 10:43
50F：推 kullan :糟糕 大皇子要被废储了 一场宫廷斗争不可免了 05/14 10:44
51F：推 truth76901 :所以今天颁的奖杯是 小金人 造型吗 05/14 10:47
52F：嘘 whodahellami:少装了 你最假 05/14 10:47
53F：嘘 murray5566 :james:你有必要这样婊我吗 05/14 10:49
54F：→ Xobile :gaz的影片 是今年4-0小牛? 05/14 10:50
55F：→ gazelle74 :不是 好像是例行赛的 05/14 10:50
56F：→ murray5566 :不是 你看上传时间 是去年的 05/14 10:50
57F：推 skyoo00 :不是写得很请楚吗去年西冠 05/14 10:51
58F：→ Xobile :感谢 05/14 10:51
59F：嘘 bredka :来不及了 你已经颁MVP给他了 05/14 10:51
60F：→ gazelle74 :喔!! 我还以为是今年例行赛的哩 05/14 10:52
61F：→ shawncarter :MVP XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 05/14 10:52
62F：→ Xobile : This is game 1 of the WCF. 有了 05/14 10:52
63F：→ gazelle74 :所以去年小牛夺冠 非常之利害 05/14 10:53
64F：推 Jotard :我想他只是就事论事 只是今天刚好颁奖而已 = =" 05/14 10:54
65F：推 WizZ :所以喇叭的奖座会被换成奥斯卡奖?? 05/14 10:56
The Miami Floppers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBFo-34hRdM&feature=related
※ 编辑: sawkuanwoo 来自: 140.112.7.214 (05/14 10:58)
66F：→ howsiao :不过Stern的话很好笑, 第一句说要严肃看待, 最後一句 05/14 10:58
67F：→ howsiao :又变成开玩笑地话 05/14 10:58
68F：推 zerokonz :XDDDD屎疼婊谁啊 05/14 11:00
69F：→ YamagiN :可能前世是抹布之类的东西吧 怎麽一直在擦地板 05/14 11:03
70F：推 realmiddle :不能碰撞不能假摔 -> 比WNBA还不如 05/14 11:03
71F：推 Kreen :XD 05/14 11:03
72F：→ neofire :它应该是在酸LBJ吧，又不能不把奖给他，只好狂酸 05/14 11:04
73F：推 YamagiN :那个影片Wade比LBJ夸张太多了 05/14 11:05
75F：→ hfi780 :我还是觉得这个比较好笑 XDDD 还抛媚眼 05/14 11:08
76F：推 truth76901 :Wade 06摔到拿冠军 上瘾了... 05/14 11:08
77F：嘘 zzzaaaqqq111:wade最好会假摔啦 05/14 11:10
78F：→ Alipapa :这... 一定是有集体特训过~ 05/14 11:11
79F：→ sawkuanwoo :足球界有拉玛西亚影院,篮球界有迈阿密奥斯卡剧院 05/14 11:11
80F：推 skyoo00 :hi那连结超明显假摔骗到裁判 还抛媚眼 05/14 11:12
81F：推 aaronpwyu :史腾故意颁给他酸吗? XD 05/14 11:12
82F：推 atrabiliar31:超酸 XDDDDD 05/14 11:12
83F：推 omi66 :看完都觉得小牛能拿冠军 超猛 = = 05/14 11:16
84F：推 hotwei :LBJ : ............... 05/14 11:16
85F：推 taker627 :现在是亲黑雷派了 05/14 11:17
86F：推 louis152334 :干拐处理完再处理这个吧..... 这个至少不伤人 05/14 11:18
87F：→ pounil :前面大家不是很讨厌史腾 什麽收BG义子 保皇派 05/14 11:23
88F：→ mcjesus7204 :屎疼这样子公然跟NBA裁判为敌XD 05/14 11:24
89F：→ pounil :一句话就变纯黑雷派了 笑死人的逻辑 05/14 11:24
90F：推 ReebokAI :小牛去年冠军 实至名归...=.=a 05/14 11:24
91F：推 WizZ :所以去年小牛的冠军纯度很高阿 打赢假摔哭哭队 05/14 11:25
92F：推 irichwoman :LBJ:............看我干嘛? 05/14 11:25
93F：推 sinepitt :实力不够只好靠演戏 05/14 11:26
94F：推 gazelle74 :以五打八夺得冠军 去年小牛真的很强 05/14 11:27
95F：推 powerjj :这个明明就是在帮热火解套= =一堆人为啥认为是在酸啊 05/14 11:28
96F：推 fffire404 :如果不是误判多的话..谁会去假摔阿... 05/14 11:31
97F：→ fffire404 :追根究底 还是裁判的问题阿..史腾 你说该怎麽办 05/14 11:31
98F：推 wbush :看来史藤比较疼雷帝！！！ 05/14 11:32
99F：嘘 sxing6326 :只翻那段 摆明是想让捧仙酸酸高潮的 05/14 11:33
100F：→ sxing6326 :谁叫捧仙酸酸程度差 05/14 11:33
如果我加翻灰熊评快艇那段有人另外议论，是不是又要有额外解释？
※ 编辑: sawkuanwoo 来自: 140.112.7.214 (05/14 11:36)
101F：推 chinhan1216 :Stern真的不挺LBJ了喔... 05/14 11:36
102F：推 kasumi28 :靠 太扯了吧 那影片看完比雷霆还黑...... 05/14 11:47
103F：推 familycut :有几球好像sbl的假摔 05/14 11:47
104F：推 nagisanoff :科科 05/14 11:49
106F：→ Alipapa :楼上这球犯规 有事吗?? 05/14 11:54
107F：推 rkbey :有些是赖犯规有些只是球员保护自己的动作 有些是假倒 05/14 11:55
108F：推 KobeIchiro :阿里巴巴安安 放暑假了喔 05/14 11:56
109F：→ sawkuanwoo :摔的动作大了点 05/14 11:57
110F：推 peace1way :惨了，LA的假摔大队也有危机了 05/14 12:03
111F：推 GTR34 :楼上 那只刚好转到雷霆去了...... 05/14 12:11
112F：推 Alfred :有趣的是competition committee的反应吧，他们根本不 05/14 12:16
113F：→ Alfred :觉得这是问题啊，Stern早就想开罚甚至禁赛了。 05/14 12:17
114F：推 CkMichael :酸的不错 05/14 12:21
115F：→ azndevil26 :Wade: e04不要闹了 LBJ拿MVP 奥斯卡影帝是我的!!! 05/14 12:23
116F：推 TuChicken :很明显MVP只是譬喻吧;) 05/14 12:25
117F：推 evan700607 :如果改会判T就严重了 可以从先不吹假摔开始 05/14 12:29
118F：→ ReebokAI :假摔-> 1.就是想赖进攻犯规(防守时).那就吹防守犯规 05/14 12:36
119F：→ ReebokAI :2. 想赖防守者犯规(进攻时).那就不要吹犯规 05/14 12:37
120F：→ ReebokAI :虽然足球吹黄牌..但吹T 会OK吗？ 05/14 12:38
121F：推 AceID :假摔到底有啥错= = 啊就做进攻犯规而已啊 05/14 12:38
122F：→ ReebokAI :可是楼上大大..但连毛都没有摸到的假摔..实在看不下 05/14 12:39
123F：→ ReebokAI :且做进攻犯规 跟假摔不完全相关.一靠演技.一靠站位 05/14 12:40
124F：推 hss512 :AceID一定没看比赛 M.Miller那个经典假摔 05/14 12:43
125F：→ hss512 :West原地起跳轻轻碰了一下 MM像被车撞一样自动飞出去 05/14 12:44
126F：→ hss512 :裁判理都不想理他 05/14 12:45
127F：→ hss512 :还有伟大的影帝杜恩伟 防守者不管有没有碰到他 都要 05/14 12:45
128F：→ hss512 :空中自体大动作扭曲 然後摔倒 裁判不理他就瞪裁判 05/14 12:46
129F：推 cowbay1000 :假摔王 装伤王不是kobe吗 05/14 12:47
130F：推 bensonwolf :总算说了句人话 05/14 12:54
132F：嘘 pradaad :看来热火近NBA都有开训新进人员 假摔训练班 05/14 13:23
133F：推 BRYANT24 :Miami 演员训练班开课中,现在加入另有优惠 05/14 13:40
134F：推 a90b201 :LBJ每次摔完要到犯规在地上爽的要命的脸证明一切 05/14 14:53
135F：推 KobeIchiro :Rose摔到放暑假也蛮爽的 05/14 15:02
136F：→ AhUtopian :楼上 Rose是假摔吗 这跟本篇文章有关吗 05/14 15:21
137F：→ flame1983 :LBJ自从看过第一轮对尼克第四战後，我就对他反感喽 05/14 16:19
138F：→ flame1983 :有一台坦克车被篮球K到，就向後大字躺摔倒的道理吗？ 05/14 16:19
139F：→ flame1983 :而且，也不是什麽过半场的长传球，就一个小短传而已 05/14 16:20
140F：→ flame1983 :自己用颜面接球，还假摔...真的是演技一流 05/14 16:20
141F：推 kobebrian24 :MVP奖杯 哈哈哈 05/14 16:21
142F：推 kobebrian24 :假摔无冕王 05/14 16:30
143F：推 wa410489 :去年靠假摔偷到2胜 今年只要加倍就有冠军罗^.< 05/14 16:54
145F：推 corn726 :Wade超爱演，他本身又不是没实力，有金身就算了还搞 05/14 18:37
146F：→ corn726 :一堆演技动作，是要别人怎麽守 05/14 18:38
147F：推 chenhankiang:在讲LBJ 05/14 18:54
148F：→ ooplus :....动作超慢 05/15 03:42
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