作者phoebe1989 (噬小月)
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标题Re: [闲聊] 好像大部分都在恭喜开版...
时间Tue May 12 18:41:18 2009
※ 引述《DJYeh (Yel D'ohan)》之铭言:
: ※ 引述《phoebe1989 (噬小月)》之铭言:
: : 先分享一下昨天上的一句话,
: : Argumentum ad baculum.
Arqument with a cane; the appeal to force in a debate.
: : Agree with me or I will beat you up.
: : argumentum有没有很像英文的一个字勒...
: : 动动脑吧~~
: : 猜对了!!就是argument
: : ad 是to的意思
: : baculum则是stick棍子的意思
: : (老师在讲这个字的时候还揶揄说是用来打我这个发音不标准的学生>///<)
: : 以上就是我浅薄的分喜罗!!
: : 还希望有高人补充说明喔!!^^y
对版友的补充我有些疑问,
因此我去问了我们老师,
从他那里找了一些资料,
应该比较正确...
: 另外还有很多论证上的谬误有用拉丁文称呼的:
: Argumentum ad hominem
: 针对人,人身攻击。
An argument that derives its force from its special application to the
interests of the individual to whom it is derected. Such an argument may
appeal to the prejudices or the private gain of an opponent, to his passion
rather than his reason. The same name is given to an argument in which
one employs an opponent's words or actions to refute him. It has been said
that a popular illustration of the "agrumentum ad hominem" is found in the
technique of the defense lawyer who, when he is at a loss for arguments,
attracks the attorney for the plaintiff, though this is not the current usage
of this phrase in the United States.
: Argumentum ad verecundiam
: Verecundia 是来自动词vereor,(vereor,vereri,veritus sum),意思是respect「尊敬」
: 用权威当证据,专家说的算。
appeal to an opponent's sense of decency.
: Post hoc ergo propter hoc
: "after this therefore because of this",
: 只因为A发生之後B也发生,就认为是A造成B,correlation>causation
: Cum hoc ergo propter hoc
: Cum就是with
: 例如从古代到现代海盗数量变少了,温室效应则变严重,所以是海盗减少造成温室效应。
: Argumentum ad populum
: Populus这个字看得出来吧?跟popular很像。
: 就是大家说了算。大家都说演化论有问题,所以演化论有问题。
: Argumentum ad misericordiam
: 看得出来misery「可怜」吧?
: 就是如果对方的论点正确、自己的论点错误,就会很可怜,所以自己的才是对的。
这个不知道我解读的意思对不对,
好像跟原来解是有点出入
appeal to pity
: Argumentum ad ignorantiam
: 英文ignorance「无知」。
: 某人无法证明是错的,所以是对的;某人无法证明是对的,所以是错的……
: 其实问题事出在某人自己无知。
An argument based on an adversary's ignorance of facts in controversy.
: 有兴趣了解细节或是想知道其他我没有列出来的可以看看这边:
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy
此外再补充三个~
Argumentum ad invidiam
An appeal to envy, jealousy, or ill will.
Argumentum ad crumenam
An appeal to one's purse; an argument which stresses the profit possible for
one's opponent.
Argumentum ad judicium
An argument appealing to judgement.
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1F:推 as1986:推 然後倒数第三个是 ``ad invidiam''? 05/13 14:09
2F:→ phoebe1989:没错!!是我打错了!!倒数第三个是invidiam^^谢谢指正 05/13 20:05
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