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Russ问题我是支持贴签卖掉 因为他除了场上攻守的毛病之外,另一点就是被冰就当声仔这件事 才一场球的决胜期被冰就搞到这样 之後让教练不敢放他下去 我不知道他有没有意识到 他在做跟Rambis一样的事情 叫做影响干扰球队调度 即便出发点不同,Rambis是想把手伸进教练团当影子,Russ明星球员的自尊不能接受被冰 重点是这都在影响教练团的正常调度,用外力在影响比赛决策 而且Russ还这样搞到成功了 一个明星球员可以用场上的表现赢得自尊 但还有另一件事情叫做自重 ------------------------------------------------------------- Russ场上的问题 这篇外电用比较数据化的方式说明比较清楚 (*这篇外电我只翻重点部分) https://tinyurl.com/mpuwhh45 The Truth Behind Russell Westbrook: He Hurts The Lakers With His Turnovers And Lack Of Defensive Effort Russell Westbrook背後的真相:他的失误和防守缺乏努力伤害了湖人队 Russell Westbrook’s Offense Russell Westbrook的进攻 The Lakers rank first in the NBA in pace this season at 100.8 possessions per 48 minutes versus last year when they finished 16th out of 30 squads. There is no question that Russell Westbrook has been the driving force behind the Purple and Gold’s evolution from a plodding team to the fastest organization in the league. But does the way Russell Westbrook pushes the pace actually help the Lakers? 湖人队本赛季以每48分钟 100.8 次的pace在NBA排名第一,而去年他们在30支球队中排名 第16。毫无疑问,Russell Westbrook把紫金军团从一支缓慢的球队推升为联盟中最快的 球队。 但是Russell Westbrook真的帮助了湖人队吗? No. 不 The Los Angeles Lakers are second in the league in transition opportunities with 21.5 per game, but they only manage 1.09 points per possession, landing the Purple and Gold in the 48th percentile. Genuine Lakers fans already know the reason their hometown squad lands in the bottom half of the league in transition buckets; because they turn the ball over too much in the open court. The Purple and Gold are seventh in transition turnover frequency, coughing up the rock 13.1% of the time. 洛杉矶湖人队以每场21.5次的转换快攻在联盟中排名第二,但他们每回合只得到1.09分, 排在第48个百分比。 真正的湖人球迷已经知道他们的球队落入联盟下半部的原因; 因为他们打太多转换快攻了。湖人队在转换快攻时发生失误排名第七,有13.1%的比例 会丢失球权 Russell Westbrook often pushes the ball up the floor too fast and recklessly, looking to attack the basket even when the opposing squad is back. He repeatedly goes at hyper-speed, a true tunnel-vision player, lacking the floor sense to know when to pull it back and set up the Lakers half-court offense. Too often, he pushes things to the edge and makes unforced errors, and NBA fans know what happens when one player coughs up the ball in transition; it almost always leads to an easy basket the other way. Russell Westbrook经常将球推得太快和鲁莽,即使在对方球队回来的情况下也想要攻击 篮框。他反复以超快的速度推进,视野跟隧道一样的球员,缺乏球场地板意识,不知道何 时将球拉回来建立湖人队的半场进攻。他太频繁把状况推到边缘,并犯下非受迫性失误, NBA球迷知道当一名球员在转换进攻中丢失球会发生什麽事情。通常会导致对手用很简单 的方式得分。 Russell Westbrook Racks Up Assists Russell Westbrook取得助攻 The best part of Russell Westbrook’s game is probably his passing ability. He averages 8.3 assists per game, good for sixth in the league, which is impressive. Factor in the fact that he plays alongside LeBron James, who is 20th in the association with 6.6 dimes per contest, making Westbrook and LBJ the only duo in the top-20, and you can see the LA native is finding his teammates with pinpoint passes even though he shares the rock with James. Russell Westbrook比赛中最好的部分可能是他的传球能力。他场均8.3次助攻,排名联盟 第六,令人印象深刻。考虑到他与LeBron James并肩作战的事实,LeBron以每场6.6助攻 在联盟中排名第 20,这使得Westbrook和LBJ成为前20名中唯一的二人组,你可以看到这位 洛杉矶本地人正在通过精准的传球找到他的队友 即使他与James分享球权。 The Purple and Gold as a whole attempt an excellent 17.4 wide open (no defender within 6 feet) three-point shots per game. Russell Westbrook creates much of that shooting space. 湖人队可以在每场有17.4次的三分球空档(而且是6英尺内没有防守者)。Westbrook创造了 大部分的投篮空间。 Because of Russell Westbrook’s excellent drive and kick game, the Lakers feature seven regular rotation players—T. Ariza, A. Bradley, C. Anthony, A. Reaves, W. Ellington, L. James, and M. Monk—shooting better than league average from beyond the arc. 由於Westbrook的出色表现,湖人队七名球员—T. Ariza、A. Bradley、C. Anthony、 A. Reaves、W. Ellington、L. James 和 M. Monk—三分线的投篮命中率高於联盟平均 水准。 Westbrook is seventh in the league in assist points created at 20.9 points per game. Russell Westbrook以场均20.9分的助攻得分排在联盟第七。 Russell Westbrook’s Shooting Numbers Are Bad Russell Westbrook糟糕的投篮数据 Russell Westbrook has struggled from distance this season. He comes in at 104th out of 118 qualified guards who’ve attempted 3.5 three-point shots per game, with a disastrous 30.2% average. If you’re an NBA fan, you already know he can’t shoot from beyond the arc. What you probably didn’t know is he’s been equally bad close to the rim. Westbrook is connecting on less than 60% of his 5.8 shot attempts at the rack. Compare Russell Westbrook’s shooting numbers from 0 to 3 feet versus the other Western Conference top playmakers: Russell Westbrook本赛季一直在外线挣扎。在场均出手3.5次三分球的118名後卫中,他排 在第104位,命中率30.2%。如果你是一名NBA球迷,你已经知道他不能在三分线外投篮。 你可能不知道的是,他在篮框附近的表现同样糟糕。Westbrook在篮下的5.8次出手中 只有不到60%的命中率。 将Westbrook的0到3英尺篮下投篮数据与其他西区顶级PG比较: - Russell Westbrook: 59.9% from 0 to 3 feet - Stephen Curry: 58.6% from 0 to 3 feet - Chris Paul: 73.3% from 0 to 3 feet - Donovan Mitchell: 71.7% from 0 to 3 feet - Ja Morant: 68.4% from 0 to 3 feet - Luka Doncic: 76.9% from 0 to 3 feet 西区其他先发PG: - Monte Morris: 77.5% from 0 to 3 feet - Dejounte Murray: 71.4% from 0 to 3 feet - D’Angelo Russell: 61.5% from 0 to 3 feet - De’Aaron Fox: 69.9% from 0 to 3 feet The only playmaker he shoots better than at the rim is Stephen Curry, the best three-point shooter of all time. All the other setup men hit at a much higher clip than the Lakers point guard. Westbrook唯一赢过的球员的叫做Stephen Curry,但他是全NBA最好的三分射手 其他球员表现都胜过Westbrook Russell Westbrook Is A Turnover Machine Russell Westbrook是个失误机器 Russell Westbrook averages 4.8 turnovers per game, second in the league. Russell Westbrook平均每场比赛失误4.8次,在联盟中排名第二。 Westbrook is not at the center of the Lakers’ offense. Every opposing squad game plans for LeBron James and Anthony Davis. The former Bruin routinely makes unforced errors. Watch a Lakers game and you’ll see him dribble the ball off his foot, pass the rock to nobody, and lately, he’s begun to jump before he swings the ball, sometimes realizing he doesn’t know where his teammates are on the floor. Westbrook不是湖人的进攻核心。LeBron James和Anthony Davis才是。Westbrook经常犯 非受迫性错误。看一场湖人队的比赛,你会看到他运球运到脚上,将球传给任何人, 在球未传出之前就先跳起来,以及他有时会不知道队友在场上的位置. The numbers show that Harden, Doncic, George, and Young are incredibly beneficial to their team’s success despite their turnovers, while Westbrook does more bad than good on offense. 数据显示,尽管有失误,Harden, Doncic, George和Young对球队的胜利非常有帮助, 而Westbrook在进攻端的表现则是坏大於好。 这边是正负值/百分比: - James Harden’s Estimated Plus/Minus: +4.2, 95th percentile - Luka Doncic’s EPM: +2.8, 92nd percentile - Paul George’s EPM: +2.6, 90th percentile - Trae Young’s EPM: +4.3, 95th percentile - Russell Westbrook’s EPM: -0.7, 57th percentile Westbrook often goes at warp speed on the court, doing before thinking. He doesn’t need to go full throttle for the Lakers to find success. He’d be better off playing in control and minimizing his pointless mistakes. Westbrook经常在场上全速推进,但他不需要这样做。他最好控制住并尽量减少他毫无 意义的失误。 Russell Westbrook’s Defense Russell Westbrook的防守 Russell Westbrook averages 11.7 defensive field goal attempts per game, but only contests 3.6 shots per contest. Think about that, Russell Westbrook defends nearly 12 shots per game but only gets his hand up and genuinely challenges a little over three attempts per contest. Russell Westbrook一场会有11.7次防守对手投篮,但他只会有3.6次是真正上去防守。 想想看,Westbrook每场防守近12次投篮,但他真正举手并认真上去防守只有3次左右。 Those numbers are damning. 这种数据是非常该死的 Really focus on Russell Westbrook as he plays D, and two things will stick out: He rarely gets a hand up towards the ball as a shooter launches (Lakers fans are nodding). Instead, he tends to stand flat-footed and lazily put his hand toward his assignment’s chin. He seldom closes out hard on an open three-point shooter (Lakers fans are still nodding with a tear in their eyes). Westbrook closes out, but not with a purpose. He usually meanders toward the three-point line because he has to, like a 10-year-old who slops a sponge across his dad’s car, getting enough soap on there so his old man doesn’t yell at him, but nothing more. Russell Westbrook在防守时只会做两件事: 当对手投篮出手时,他很少伸手去触球(湖人球迷在点头)。取而代之的是,他倾向於 措手不及地站着,懒洋洋地把手放在他的下巴。 他很少在防空档三分时上用力逼近防守(湖人球迷仍然泪流满面地点头)。 他通常会漫步走向三分线并毫无理由的停在那, 因为他必须像一个10岁的孩子在他父亲的车上洒一块海绵一样,在那儿弄到足够的肥皂, 这样他的老头就不会对他大喊大叫,但仅此而已。(这看不懂,是啥美式笑话吗?) Overall, Russell Westbrook allows his assignments to shoot 46.7%, one of the worst marks among the Lakers’ regular rotation players, and the Purple and Gold are 1.9 points worse per 100 possessions on defense with their starting point guard on the floor. 总之,Russell Westbrook的投篮命中率为 46.7%,这是湖人常规轮替球员中最差的成 绩之一,而湖人队在先发PG在场的情况下,每100回合防守时的得分是-1.9分。 Russell Westbrook’s Rebound Numbers Are Inflated Russell Westbrook的篮板数被夸大了 Russell Westbrook averages 8.1 rebounds per game, fourth among all backcourt players in the NBA. His numbers are bloated. Russell Westbrook场均8.1个篮板,在NBA所有後场球员中排名第四。他的数字是膨胀的 Most head coaches don’t emphasize offensive rebounding in today’s modern NBA. In fact, nearly every squad preaches a “get back on D” approach, which means players don’t flash to the rim for put-back attempts or offensive rebounds because that can leave them vulnerable to a transition attack if they don’t manage to lock down the board. Nowadays, most players rush back on D after a shot attempt, preparing to lock down their rim. 在当今的现代NBA,大多数主教练都不强调进攻篮板。事实上,几乎每支球队都着重 "get back on D",(应该是指这种 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tw_oR7Ra-0 )
这意味着球员不会闪到篮下进行尝试或抢进攻篮板,因为如果他们不回防,这会使他们容 易受到转换快攻。如今,大多数球员在尝试投篮後都会回防阻挡,并准备锁死篮下区域。 Russell Westbrook uses this “get back on D” strategy to tack onto his rebound numbers. Go to a Lakers game, and you’ll see him fighting his teammates ferociously like a grizzly bear straining to secure a jumping salmon for the chance to pull down an unchallenged defensive rebound. If there are Lakers players around the free board, chances are Westbrook is going to nab it. Russell Westbrook使用这种"get back on D"来增加他的篮板。去看一场湖人队的比赛, 你会看到他像灰熊一样凶猛地与队友作战,努力抓住一条跳跃的鲑鱼,以争取机会拉下一 个不受挑战的防守篮板。 如果无人争夺的篮板球周围有湖人球员,Westbrook很有可能会 抓住它。 Russell Westbrook’s Overall Defensive Numbers Aren’t Good Russell Westbrook的整体防守数据并不好 Dunks and Threes rates Russell Westbrook in the 29th percentile on D. Westbrook’s defensive box plus/minus is at -0.6, meaning he’s more than half a point worse than a league average player on the less fun end. He clocks in at 295th out of a possible 558 players in defensive rating. Dunks and Threes 将Russell Westbrook的防守评分排在第29个百分比。 Westbrook的防守正负值是-0.6,这意味着他比联盟平均水平的球员差了半分以上。 在558名球员中,他排在第295位。 Russell Westbrook hasn’t brought consistent value to the Lakers through the first half of the season. All he has to do is slow down, stop making silly mistakes, and give more energy on the less fun side of the ball, and he’ll help the Purple and Gold inch toward championship contender status. Russell Westbrook在上半赛季并没有为湖人队带来稳定的比赛水准。他所要做的就是 放慢脚步,停止犯愚蠢的失误,在比赛中不那麽有趣的一面投入更多的精力,这样他 才能帮助湖人向冠军争夺者的身份迈进。 好长一篇的外电啊........囧rz --



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1F:推 jetloading00: Rambis :我只看的到今天下半场的龟 01/29 22:01
2F:→ jetloading00: 非卖品 01/29 22:01
3F:推 jetloading00: 推整理外电 01/29 22:06
4F:推 jimli: 他会说喔 然後下一场比赛继续老样子 01/29 22:07
5F:推 smartpon: 篮球智商真的太低了…由衷佩服KD与雷霆 01/29 22:08
6F:→ TreJones: 这篇明明是文字,却好有画面 01/29 22:10
7F:推 TheoEpstein: 辛苦了,这篇真的很不错。 01/29 22:11
8F:推 Ryo5566: 防守那段XD 01/29 22:11
9F:推 nedekwn: 整篇看下来我真的一直点头 囧 01/29 22:12
10F:推 jetloading00: 最後那段 在比赛中不那麽有趣的地方投入更多心力很 01/29 22:12
11F:→ jetloading00: 中肯 AR:那些都我在做啊...... 01/29 22:12
12F:→ Ryo5566: 每场对手12次投篮龟竟然肯认真守3次太棒啦 01/29 22:13
13F:推 TheoEpstein: 我一直点头点到後面是含泪点头 (完全如文章所写) 01/29 22:13
14F:推 jimli: AR的数据不好看 但有看球就知道他细节有多好 01/29 22:14
15F:→ jimli: 某方面来说龟很现实 只有有数据的东西他才重视 01/29 22:14
16F:推 jetloading00: 看AR数据 会觉得是个非常无聊的球员 01/29 22:17
17F:→ jetloading00: 但认真看过他比赛 绝对很容易被这样的热血态度跟聪 01/29 22:17
18F:→ jetloading00: 明圈粉 然後还只是个菜鸟 01/29 22:17
19F:→ jetloading00: 就像前几场瓜赛後再度说的:AR就是总知道自己该在 01/29 22:17
20F:→ jetloading00: 何时何地出现。 01/29 22:17
21F:推 A7911: 看了会想哭 01/29 22:17
22F:→ TheoEpstein: 瓜跟詹都知道AR这样的球员对团队多重要 01/29 22:18
23F:推 johnnyvose: 龟最大的问题真的就是防守太惨和失误过多,然後本来 01/29 22:19
24F:→ johnnyvose: 外线就差,这季连切入都不见了 01/29 22:19
25F:推 smartpon: AR真的很棒,真的不要再相信一堆明星了 01/29 22:19
26F:→ glen: 因为Russ在比赛中有太多问题 是box score表面上看不到 01/29 22:19
27F:→ glen: 这篇外电是用不少进阶数据把他的问题浮现点出来~~ 01/29 22:20
28F:→ smartpon: 看龟打球就是会一直浮现,乾他在打三小的想法 01/29 22:20
29F:→ Pushyong: 没有追live真的不会知道他的防守到底多可怕 01/29 22:20
30F:推 BignoZe: 看来全世界的湖迷都看到了龟的问题 01/29 22:27
31F:→ BignoZe: 龟真的有够烂 面试骗到之後就不演了 01/29 22:28
32F:→ l2l: 笑话说 龟龟防守虚应故事 像小孩只是随便应付老爸要他洗的车 01/29 22:32
感谢说明XD
33F:推 sc79129: 不知道龟到底在快什麽 01/29 22:33
34F:推 zombierick: 龟像是跑车,但是煞车时常坏掉那种。 01/29 22:34
35F:推 LBJKO: 看比赛就感觉 球落下後 就往前冲了,然後湖人就其他人 01/29 22:39
36F:→ LBJKO: 跟着 攻守转换 湖人就会三分喷出去了... 01/29 22:39
37F:→ LBJKO: 那种其实不是很好的投篮节奏Orz... 01/29 22:39
38F:推 r491396076: 点头到脖子断了! 01/29 22:51
39F:推 james1237741: 这些资讯球团怎麽可能不知道,更让人不解看影片出 01/29 22:54
40F:→ james1237741: 身的我哥在想什麽? 01/29 22:54
41F:推 BignoZe: 我哥就要兼顾政治问题 龟一冰就爆气 蓝鼻屎硬要DAJ上 把 01/29 22:56
42F:→ BignoZe: 爱将全部交易走 01/29 22:56
43F:推 matsuwu: 这篇就非常理性的把我们眼睛看到的东西写出来。詹湖酸跟 01/29 23:00
44F:→ matsuwu: 龟龟本人根本不会看 01/29 23:00
45F:→ matsuwu: 龟龟真的很屌,我是第一次看到这种文,能够脑海出现具体 01/29 23:01
46F:→ matsuwu: 的画面,知道那些长什麽样子 01/29 23:01
47F:→ matsuwu: KD搭的龟龟是巅峰龟,即使有失误,但是投篮命中率是很漂 01/29 23:02
48F:→ matsuwu: 亮的。 01/29 23:02
49F:→ matsuwu: 龟龟的冲刺,每次都失误然後瞬间被得分。不止前後差四分 01/29 23:03
50F:→ matsuwu: ,气势和节奏直接烂掉。 01/29 23:03
※ 编辑: glen (114.24.15.222 台湾), 01/29/2022 23:15:18
51F:推 ltmps: 西河的问题不是无法改,但就是改不了。 01/29 23:14
52F:推 BignoZe: 西河本人看起来有没有改的意愿 01/29 23:16
53F:推 Deathclaw: 对 那段比喻简单说就是虚应故事 放上海绵+泡泡=洗车 01/29 23:31
54F:推 ksuenjjr: 推翻译,辛苦了! 01/29 23:32
55F:推 ksuenjjr: Vogel绝对有看到啊,问题是龟冰不得,脑热把他冰起来他 01/29 23:36
56F:→ ksuenjjr: 会更热需要安抚 01/29 23:36
57F:推 lakb24: 西河唯一比较好的点就是持球进攻能力了,今天下半场可以 01/29 23:44
58F:→ lakb24: 看得出来,但是缺点却是看了大半个赛季,季初的期望到现 01/29 23:44
59F:→ lakb24: 在只剩下失望而已…………只能拼命提醒自己明年夏天就结 01/29 23:44
60F:→ lakb24: 束了 01/29 23:44
61F:推 kart: 詹从一代骑末开始常常会提到make a winning play,在场上做 01/29 23:48
62F:→ kart: 好能赢球的事或细节这些数据展现不出来的东西。当初球哥就是 01/29 23:49
63F:→ kart: 投篮不行但是能做出winning play的球员,现在的AR也是。龟就 01/29 23:49
64F:→ kart: 完全是相反。所以我真的很讶异老詹还能跟他相处那麽好 = = 01/29 23:49
65F:→ kart: 老詹之前提到失误内容的谈话大概是最重的话了,但是我还真希 01/29 23:50
66F:→ kart: 望能更重一点 @@ 01/29 23:51
67F:推 BignoZe: 因为龟有通过詹的面试XD 01/29 23:51
68F:推 lakb24: Jordan选秀眼光更烂,詹皇只是遇到一次诈骗而已应该还好 01/29 23:58
69F:推 lanchenchen: 一直看一直点头,满满的画面 01/30 00:07
70F:→ matsuwu: 老汉就兄弟大於一切,而且你看湖人每个大佬到现在都还在 01/30 00:17
71F:→ matsuwu: 帮他说话,他真的技能点数全点冲刺+人和,剩下一点点点 01/30 00:17
72F:→ matsuwu: 数点爆击。 01/30 00:17
73F:→ BignoZe: 龟出现在三国时代 估计也是一个刘玄德龟 01/30 00:18
74F:推 lanchenchen: 这篇跟总版瓜哥那篇应该都被龟派无视了,都是别人硬 01/30 00:20
75F:→ lanchenchen: 黑,龟龟没有输。 01/30 00:20
76F:推 BignoZe: 我觉得满多龟迷满理性 龟虽不适合湖人 但龟是好球员 应 01/30 00:23
77F:→ BignoZe: 该不用战球迷啦 01/30 00:23
78F:→ TheoEpstein: 祢衡吧,怎麽可能刘玄德 01/30 00:28
79F:推 lanchenchen: 没有要战啦,我也认同雷霆龟很猛,然後他去别的球队 01/30 00:29
80F:→ lanchenchen: 一定发挥的比现在好,今天推文都有说,而且下半场龟 01/30 00:29
81F:→ lanchenchen: 爆击是有点让人振奋没错,但就不是湖人的解答。 01/30 00:29
82F:推 matsuwu: 我是不觉得看到现在还有所谓的「龟迷」,原本有应该都失 01/30 00:31
83F:→ matsuwu: 望透顶了吧。 01/30 00:31
84F:→ matsuwu: 现在海南帮他说话的99%硬酸的居多。 01/30 00:31
85F:推 ksuenjjr: 我想不出哪队需要龟 01/30 00:31
86F:→ ksuenjjr: 有龟迷啦,相信他们也是含泪看球...看自己喜欢的球星被 01/30 00:32
87F:→ ksuenjjr: 检讨一定不好受 01/30 00:32
88F:→ matsuwu: 龟龟就走完合约,如果愿意领个两千万打替补,应该蛮还不 01/30 00:32
89F:→ matsuwu: 错。毕竟还是有喂饼跟外传能力。 01/30 00:32
90F:推 ksuenjjr: 龟替补出发上场多冲击篮框的确不错,可是他的自尊心不 01/30 00:34
91F:→ ksuenjjr: 允许 01/30 00:34
92F:→ matsuwu: 他现在领4000万又一定要上场+拿球。我也想 01/30 00:35
93F:→ matsuwu: 不到哪队需要他,那这样还能算好球员吗 01/30 00:35
94F:推 lanchenchen: 必须说,不理性的其实很多XD 亲身感受。我希望龟开 01/30 00:35
95F:→ lanchenchen: 心但我更希望湖人跟湖迷开心,所以能够好聚好散最好 01/30 00:35
96F:→ lanchenchen: ,不能的话其实大部分人应该也麻痹了,佛系看球不要 01/30 00:35
97F:→ lanchenchen: 伤身就好。 01/30 00:35
98F:→ ksuenjjr: 其实随着年纪越来越大他也该意识到不能只靠体能球了 01/30 00:35
99F:→ lanchenchen: 扣掉失误、不看防守、手感好的龟2千万的话是好球员。 01/30 00:36
100F:→ ksuenjjr: 其实再怎麽讨论龟换墙发生的可能性都很低,不过龟不改 01/30 00:36
101F:→ ksuenjjr: 今年真的就附加赛能不能赢都很难说了 01/30 00:36
102F:推 alex80327: 视野跟隧道一样的球员 形容的真好... 01/30 00:39
103F:→ alex80327: 龟兄只要外线都跟今天後面一样稳可以惩罚内缩的球员整 01/30 00:41
104F:→ alex80327: 队就动起来了... 01/30 00:41
105F:推 srwalan: 防守跟进攻的脚步速度、积极度落差,真的让人摇头,我哥 01/30 03:11
106F:→ srwalan: 应该都是忍痛在搞比赛计画,希望身体不要闷出病来。 01/30 03:11
107F:推 SBIt: 10岁小孩那段简单来说是「装忙」 01/30 04:06
108F:推 mimimaster: 推 这篇完全写出龟怎麽伤害球队 01/30 07:21
109F:推 dydark: 推翻译 01/30 07:31
110F:推 lovefather: 龟这种型就让他去坦队全力刷就好了,根本不适合有战绩 01/30 07:40
111F:→ lovefather: 压力的球队好吗!KD对巅峰龟最後都忍不下去了,何况是 01/30 07:40
112F:→ lovefather: 退化龟 01/30 07:40
113F:→ ken720331: 非常好的外电,大家都知道就龟给高层不知道 01/30 07:59
114F:→ TheoEpstein: 教练团知道啦,再上去高层Rambis就不知道他们知不知 01/30 08:03
115F:→ TheoEpstein: 道了.... 01/30 08:03
116F:推 Eddward: 篮板那段…全世界NBA球迷应该都知道吧 连队友都抢爆就对 01/30 08:30
117F:→ Eddward: 了 01/30 08:30
118F:推 babyface1977: 一边看一边内牛满面 01/30 09:07
119F:推 Sessyoin: 推 01/30 09:15
120F:→ ken720331: 龟这个约走完我看也不可能有人高薪想找他了...会给年 01/30 10:22
121F:→ ken720331: 轻球员坏榜样 01/30 10:22
122F:推 lwei781: 龟和AR 刚好相反 01/30 22:48
123F:推 harrybbs: 切入很猛 放篮手感垫底 01/31 20:40
124F:→ harrybbs: 就是花式送球权机器 01/31 20:41
125F:推 Qorqios: 谢谢 02/01 00:21
126F:→ SCLPAL: 假洗车的意思吧lol? 02/01 17:19







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