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The second pick will be D'Angelo Russell's second banana http://tinyurl.com/ha2n5y9 By TheGreatMambino 5/23 2016 Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram? Which player is a better fit for the Los Angeles Lakers, mercifully still the owners of the second overall pick in this year's NBA draft? Who should they take? The truth is, it doesn't matter. On many levels. Ben Simmons还是 Brandon Ingram? 哪位球员比较适合有幸保留住榜眼的湖人队? 他们该选谁呢? 而事实上 其实并不重要 从许多层面来看 On one very obvious level, the Lakers have the pick made for them by the time the clock starts ticking for their selection: it's whoever's left out of the two. Regardless of fit or preference, LA will take the available player and be completely and totally satisfied with it. That's one of the silver linings of merely keeping the pick: just be thankful you have it. The debate is going to be settled for them. 明显看到 从开始选秀起湖人队就已经做好他们的决定:就是两个人剩下中的一个 先不管哪个适合哪个偏爱 湖人队将会选一个有用而且满意的球员 只要心存感谢就好了 毕竟从好的方向想 湖人队还是保住了选秀权 他们已经准备作下最後的决定 But on a more realistic level, it won't matter who their new rookie is. Because whoever he is will be playing second fiddle to D'Angelo Russell. 而从更实际的层面来看 即将来到的新人是谁并不重要 因为无论是谁 他都将成为D'Angelo Russell的助手 In the last two and a half months of the season, Russell started to look more like the second pick of the draft and less like a 19-year-old point guard. He averaged 15/3/3 on a relatively decent .406/.388/.774 shooting line, all while taking nearly 13 shots a game in 30 plus minutes per game. 最後两个半月的赛季里 Russell开始表现得像一个榜眼 而不是一个只有19岁的控卫 他平均 15/3/3(分板助) 的数据以及相对得体 .406/.388/.774投篮三围 表现在他平均每场13次出手 30多分钟上场时间的比赛上 While those numbers--especially matched up against 2.4 turnovers per contest--certainly aren't great marks for an NBA point guard in 2016, they're sterling for a rookie. Double that when you consider that rookie is trying to manage an offense in the face of a coach with no particular offensive plan. Triple that when you consider he was easy pickings for any defense that knew Russell was one of the only other Lakers that could create any offense whatsoever. For the whole season, D'Angelo was like Leo in The Revenant except there were 15 bears and he had a sack of Legos instead of a gun. It wasn't a good situation. 这些数据 配上他场均2.4次的失误来说 在2016年的控卫中不算很出色 但对一个菜鸟来说还是很不错的 加上他要在教练没有特别的战术下组织进攻 再加上他是少数湖人队里 可以在任何时候创造进攻机会的人 特别容易吸引到防守 整个球季 他就像是神鬼猎人中的李奥纳多 前方有15只熊 但他手上没有枪 只有一袋乐高玩具而已 情况对他来说并不是很好 Even more than his numbers, D'Angelo started to show more consistent spurts that he not only could be a good player, or even a great player, but rather, a superstar player. He unveiled a long-range touch that not only connected statistically, but aesthetically and mechanically and could be a weapon for years to come. With a quick release and a high arc coming from an already long player, Russell's jumper is sound in its construction. DLO也开始表现出 他不只是能成为好的球员 更能当一个超级明星 他还没开锋的长程火炮 令人感觉到舒服 优美且具有机械性 高角度以及快速的出手速度来自一位具有身高的球员 Russell的跳投技巧刻印在他体内 With the ball, it's clear that D'Angelo is equal parts distributor and scorer, but his ability to handle the ball and create space, mixed with a quick release shot, make him a deadly threat in the making. In many ways, Russell reminds me of a nascent James Harden--a deceivingly good athlete with excellent body control and zero fear of taking any shot, anytime. 球在手上时 DLO同时可当传球者和得分手 而他处理球和制造空间的能力 搭配上他快速出手的投篮 让他成为了进攻时致命的武器 在许多方面 他让我想到了近期的 James Harden 具有优秀的运动能力 加上无时无刻 从不害怕任何出手 From a very, very early stand point, Russell already looks like a player the Lakers could build around. Of course there are some very, very noticeable warts to his game (I'm not sure that he'll ever be more than a decent defender), but at age 20, all we're looking for are signs. Not consistency, not excellent, but just signals of what's the come. With guys like Karl-Anthony Towns, LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Chris Paul and Kevin Durant, they were there from the jump. But for D'Angelo, we're merely prognosticating based on the skills that can be developed from the natural tools he's already got. 从很早的观点来看 Russell已经看起来像是湖人队可以围绕他建队的球员了 当然他还有一些注意得到的缺点(还不确定他是不是可以成为不错的防守球员) 但他只有20岁 我们只能寻找一些可能的迹象而已 Karl-Anthony Towns, LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Chris Paul 和Kevin Durant 他们从一开始就很优秀了 但DLO我们只能从他天生的能力来判断他可能开发的技巧 进而预测他的未来 In the modern NBA, success has been largely predicated around shooting and spacing, pace and ball movement. The players that have led their teams to success have been those that serve as both the ignition keys on offense, as well as the finishers. Without Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, is there any doubt that DeAndre Jordan would be a significantly less impactful player? Without LeBron James, Kryie Irving reverts back to a ball-stopping point guard. Without Stephen Curry, whose abilities make one question whether or not he'll finish the play or just start it, opposing defenses wouldn't be in a constant state of flux against the Warriors. 在现代的NBA 投篮 清空间 速度和球的流动已经视为成功的重要因素 让球队成功的球员 除了要能当进攻发动者 也要能当终结者 有需要问 如果没有Chris Paul 和Blake Griffin的话 DeAndre Jordan会不会减少的他的冲击力吗? 没有LeBron James , Kryie Irving会退回到一球在手的控卫 没有Stephen Curry 失去了他发动攻击或也能终结掉球的能力 勇士对手的防守也不会这样一直露出破绽 Straight off of his rookie year, D'Angelo Russell looks like he can be the player that can fulfill that role. And at the point guard position, in today's league, it's quite evident that the player pushing the pace up court is quite often the fulcrum of his team. But is his future teammate capable of performing in that same slot? I'm not sure yet. 从菜鸟年来看 DLO看起来可以担任这样的角色 而在现今的联盟来说 可以把球队速度拉起来的控卫就可以成为球队的台柱 但他未来的队友可以配合他这样打吗?我还不确定 Will Ben Simmons be able to finish on plays other than in the paint? Will he learn how to shoot? Does he care enough to get better? Ben Simmons未来可以在禁区以外的地方得分吗? 他会学会投篮吗? 他想让自己变更强吗? Will Brandon Ingram be able to physically stand against the rigors of an 82-game season? Will his scoring prowess translate to the NBA level? Will he even be the one available at the number two slot? Brandon Ingram的体能能够负荷82场比赛吗? 他的得分能力可以达到NBA水准吗? 他可以胜任第二位核心的角色吗? The truth is, we don't know how good Ingram or Simmons will be. We don't know if they'll be able to make plays professionally, but with where the league is these days, it looks like D'Angelo is primed to be the primary player the Lakers are building around. 实际上 我们不知道Ingram 或Simmons 会变得多好 也不知道他们能不能打得更专业 但在现在的联盟之下 似乎DLO已经优先成为湖人第一号 可以围绕建队的对象 Not a bad debate to have. Even in their darkest era ever, the Lakers are dealing with problems that other teams would kill for. 并不是面对一个苦涩的决定 虽然湖人经历了他们最黑暗的时期 但他们的现在所面临的困扰 对其他NBA球队而言 却也是一个求之 而不能得的机会 --



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1F:推 Verlander35: 推外电 05/24 22:46
2F:推 Heimdallwind: 外电推 05/24 22:49
3F:推 YamagiN: 推 作者太小看乐高了 撒在地上熊也不敢靠近XD 05/24 22:57
4F:→ Lattendue: 原来是乐高阿~~才能遮蔽录影(被打 05/24 23:05
5F:推 bitegod0921: 继KOBE之後另一个彻夜看录影的湖人球员\ 05/24 23:07
6F:推 toast1521: 乐高侠 05/24 23:09
7F:推 wangkun: 突然发现Dlo也有196公分 05/24 23:10
8F:推 john7420: 外电推~ 这作者的确把前两顺位的可能缺点写的满深入的XD 05/24 23:11
9F:推 newsboy3423: Dlo打控卫算高的 05/24 23:13
10F:推 dragonjohn: 第二根香蕉 XDD 05/24 23:13
11F:推 crawford438: 一想到踩到在地上的乐高就觉得恐怖 05/24 23:22
12F:推 bbolivier: Russel的右手运球好了吗? 05/24 23:28
13F:推 kobegary: 蛤?感觉作者应该也有被拍影片吧?他的速度人家贴紧一点 05/24 23:52
14F:→ kobegary: 不让他投,放他切进去一定跟得上,弹跳能力又不行,能 05/24 23:52
15F:→ kobegary: 不被补防的搧火锅就偷笑了,加上运球也没多好,多是用 05/24 23:52
16F:→ kobegary: 屁股在顶空间而已!看不出有什麽地方值得以他为中心建 05/24 23:52
17F:→ kobegary: 队,要也是Randle或新签的自由球员或这次的榜眼才对! 05/24 23:52
18F:推 bill8262000: DLO运球缺点是背後运球能力太弱可是又爱用这招,无 05/24 23:53
19F:→ bill8262000: 论是练习还是正式比赛,都可以看到他背後运球差点失 05/24 23:53
20F:→ bill8262000: 误,不知道其他人有没有跟我看的一样详细 05/24 23:53
21F:→ samsam80821: 不过这篇重点其实也不多啦阿 05/24 23:53
22F:推 newsboy3423: 先知都来了 05/24 23:58
23F:推 settier: 呵呵,让我们继续看下去 05/25 00:04
24F:推 kobetime: 真的觉得先知太屌了 05/25 00:05
25F:推 abcd40116: 先知的对决 05/25 00:06
26F:推 toast1521: 双先知单挑不跑 05/25 00:07
27F:推 ping1777: 唉呦好像第一次看到两位先知一起出场 05/25 00:10
28F:推 godhand5: 先知真辛苦 05/25 00:31
29F:推 shang1225: 速度、弹跳能力是衡量基石的重点?不愧是先知 05/25 00:51
30F:推 hasebe: 比尔鲜汁露出反串Dlo黑的真面目了we 05/25 01:07
31F:→ hasebe: 终於看到合体,历史性一刻XD 05/25 01:08
32F:推 Crissangel: 双先知发现连美国人都不挺他们只好开酸XD 05/25 01:21
33F:推 pharmawind: DLO: 学弟,当我的助手把~ 来~ 那盏灯架高一点 很好~ 05/25 01:21
34F:→ oneders39: 有吗? 常常都同时出现啊 都想推在一起了 05/25 01:27
35F:→ oneders39: 这样我应该有看得很详细了吧? 05/25 01:28
36F:推 denn589367: 推围绕Dlo重建,然後坐看先知出场 05/25 02:07
37F:→ teruhyde12: 体能不劲爆当基石真的无敌抖,能变成NASH就好了 05/25 02:22
38F:推 LakersMamba: 原来体能劲爆才可以当基石... 05/25 02:34
39F:→ LakersMamba: Dlo体能没有不好 只是球风的问题 05/25 02:35
40F:推 HaODaDa: 找Wes Johnson 当基石好了 05/25 06:00
41F:推 henbolei: 不如给小南斯当基石如何?体能够好了吧 05/25 06:35
42F:推 stylerpan: 乐高...饭登...外电很有意思 05/25 07:43
43F:推 cvbn7910: 用乐高形容BS体系还蛮有趣的xdd 05/25 08:48
44F:推 zehow: Kidd Nash 体能也都不算劲爆啊 也都是名人堂等级 05/25 10:23
45F:推 gglonkey: 雷霆打成这样,KD看来应该会多留一年 05/25 10:25
46F:推 steven610381: Kidd那推进的速度很吓人好吗? 05/25 10:26
47F:→ steven610381: Nash体能没那麽好 可是他过得了人 05/25 10:27
48F:→ steven610381: DLO的技术需要多练练 05/25 10:27
49F:→ steven610381: DLO还是当助手吧 05/25 10:28
50F:→ Lattendue: 明年才是第二年 本来就要练 他也正在练0.0... 05/25 10:29
51F:推 jimli: 才打第一年就要人家甚麽都会XD 多给几年可以吗 05/25 10:35
52F:推 ping1777: 这样就算Nash来一定也被嫌到爆炸阿XD 好几年才打出身价 05/25 10:52
53F:→ angelmax: 球员养成就是要耐心 至少第一年有看出潜力 05/25 10:53
54F:推 jimli: 那枪西我们一定不识货的阿 前几年完全浪人XD 05/25 10:53
55F:→ angelmax: 後卫又比长人难养一点 禁区投不进至少可以朝防守蓝领练 05/25 10:54
56F:推 alanlakers: 那些看不出Dlo潜能的人 实在该好好的再多进修一番 05/25 11:29
57F:→ alanlakers: 篮球世界里不是只有体能 或者速度 才能代表一切 05/25 11:30
58F:→ alanlakers: Dlo是否真能长成球星没有人可以打包票 但是 现阶段 05/25 11:31
59F:→ YamagiN: 这样只有Kidd CP3这种控卫是先知们看得上眼的 其他现在 05/25 11:32
60F:→ alanlakers: 他所表现出的得分手段 实在是多年来少见的奇才 05/25 11:32
61F:→ YamagiN: 引领联盟的优质控卫几乎都会被嫌得像屎一样 05/25 11:33
62F:推 jasontseng1: 没有到甚麽"多年来少见的奇才"程度吧ORZ 05/25 11:38
63F:推 newsboy3423: 没那麽强啦 但还算有潜力 05/25 11:39
64F:→ micbrimac: Walton可以准备回来好好带球员了~~ 05/25 11:43
65F:推 alanlakers: 请举个例 联盟有那个年轻後卫各项得分手段都会的? 05/25 12:01
66F:→ alanlakers: Dlo第一年就可以展现出各种投篮技巧 不是奇才是什麽? 05/25 12:02
67F:→ alanlakers: 光是个人运球单打与 C&S能力 可随时切换的人就不多了 05/25 12:04
68F:→ alanlakers: 他还有低位动作 这更是後卫近年来越来越少见的技能 05/25 12:06
69F:→ alanlakers: 另外空切跑位 篮下瞎搅和 更是常见的得分模式 05/25 12:09
70F:→ alanlakers: Stephen Curry Says Dlo Has "Total skill set" 05/25 12:13
71F:→ alanlakers: http://goo.gl/3eqoAQ 05/25 12:15







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